[BlindTlk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [BlTlk] vent about my sister

Fri Mar 12 04:39:14 UTC 2021

Most young people who I know, went to college, but now have jobs that have nothing to do with what they went to college for.
Peggy & Dixie Marie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> This boomerang syndrome has become more common for young people in the lower and middle classes in America due to student loan expenses.  This is in no way unique to the blind or more specifically the larger disability communities.  This can often happen upon completion of a Liberal Arts Education too since unless you have some professional experience to market after such an education getting that first job is likely to take a while. Understand a job is a job and a career is a career the two differ in that a job you may have for a portion of your life while a career is something you want to do for most of your work life.  That's the value of aptitudes and interests tests if you answer them truthfully, they find possible career paths for you as opposed to job possibilities.
> These days what many young people are doing is going to trade school first and getting a trade.  If in later life they have enough money to pay for that Liberal Arts education then they may pay for that then.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, Chris and I stayed with his parents for a month while we were selling our house, as I had gotten a job in the area where they lived.  Once the house sold, we moved into a cute little apartment until we bought another house a year later.
>> 
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ericka via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 6:28 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] [BlTlk] vent about my sister
>> 
>> Wise words Judy. It does happen to sighted people two. In my family situation my sister, husband and their son who was in kindergarten moved from California to Wisconsin when they no longer could really afford to live out there and did not like the school district their son was in. They lived with my parents staying in One bedroom until they could find work and housing. It was not two or three months to find housing in our small town of roughly 10,000 people. They were lucky enough that they could work from my parents house with the job they had in California as it was production work. They worked in the less glamorous part of the film industry you see. They finally found a little duplex which still was not enough space for them but they had work and my nephew got to go to the same grade school my sisters and I went to. I think they live there a year before they moved to the duplex. Then they lived there for years and years and years until just the summer. My nephew turned 14 and t
> heir actual house. They move their August of last year. Never think that sighted people don?t struggle. Sometimes it?s the same struggle, sometimes it?s different but it?s not all easy just because they can drive and read print. And as were talking about inclusion in the NFB Madison those who aren?t white have very similar struggles to ours.
>> 
>> With friendship, encouragement and hope for the future
>> 
>> Ericka Nelson
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 3:57 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>  Hi,
>>> I'm not apologizing for the harsh words, as I hope they will save your life, but I'm apologizing that we can't be there with you so you could experience our caring in person.
>>> When first leaving the nest, lots of people come back temporarily for one reason or another. For me, it was summer vacations from teaching, but I also had a summer camp job in another state for a few weeks.
>>> We had no buses then, and if I wanted to go shopping or visiting, one of my parents would drop me off with arrangements to pick me up, or I would walk.
>>> Our oldest daughter came back to us after being on her own for 3 years, stayed for 4, then got married. But she was working all the time. Our relationship was very different from when she was growing up. As an adult, we all had our own schedules, and sometimes different mealtimes. My husband was retired, but I was still working. We were all more like amicable housemates, and it was really nice.
>>> Judy
>>> sent from the Android BrailleSense Polaris
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: CHELA Robles via BlindTlk
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 08:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> I have to apologize for being harsh as well. Hi to live with my folks for the time being because I don't have a job that pays a lot of money for me to actually get my own house right now so I understand how you feel medicine however I've also come to the fact that even with family it's a growing experience we all have to mature and I'm sure your 14-year-old sister will eventually see the light at the end of the tunnel given that she is much younger than you she's the baby child and so she may be on the child side of things when it comes to learning how to grow up as well which is normal but take what you will from all this and learn from it.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> > On Mar 10, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> > > Hi, Madison,
>>> > > You started out this thread by venting about your sister. None of us can do anything about that, nor should we, as we really don't know you, your sister, your family dynamic, etc.
>>> > > We tried to share the perspective that what seems so traumatic when you are at home with no outlet diminishes in size and scope when you have constructive and productive happenings going on in your life, producing personal growth and maturity.
>>> > > We have all been there, we have all left mom and dad a long time ago and made the best of an adult life. You aren't a kid anymore, and we respect you enough not to treat you like one.
>>> > > You've read some harsh words in this thread, and I wish we were with you in person to share a hug or a handshake to soften the words.
>>> > > We are blind people, trying to best advise a young blind lady who has intelligence and the world of possibilities before her.
>>> > > Really truly think about all we have said, and don't be afraid to step out. No one can do it for you. Respect yourself enough to do this for yourself, and this list will always be here to support you.
>>> > > Judy
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 4:21 PM
>>> > To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' > Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> > > We have public transit, cabs and HandyTransit.
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Justin Williams via BlindTlk
>>> > Sent: March 10, 2021 5:35 PM
>>> > To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' > Cc: Justin Williams
>>> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> > > I've used cabs.
>>> > > Do you have other transportation services?
>>> > > You can use those, or public transportation.
>>> > > Also, if you can't use transportation, this might facilitate going to an NFB training center so you have access to that kind of stuff.
>>> > > But you are the one who has to make a decision to do something.
>>> > > ]Justin
>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 6:25 PM
>>> > To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' > Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> > > We don't have Uber or Lyft
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of CHELA Robles via BlindTlk
>>> > Sent: March 10, 2021 5:19 PM
>>> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> > Cc: CHELA Robles
>>> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> > > Oh please Madison Shirley there's Uber or Lyft out there..., yes? It > just sounds like you're making excuse after excuse and we're all > trying to help you out here it's been very difficult. See my other > message in the other thread which pretty much sums it all up from my > perspective. You can't just sit back and expect people to do all the > work or heavy lifting for you all the time. We all are in this > together and we got to do our part to the best of our abilities this > is how we lift each other up. With much encouragement your friend > chela
>>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>>> > >> On Mar 10, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Madison Martin via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> >> >> Then I won't go
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler via BlindTlk
>>> >> Sent: March 10, 2021 3:37 PM
>>> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> >> Cc: Alan Wheeler
>>> >> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >> >> What if no one is available to drive you? You cannot, realistically, depend on that your whole life, especially if you truly want a job.
>>> >> >> >> "If you want to practice anything, practice knowing you can do whatever you set your complete mind to." Victor Wooten "The Music Lesson"
>>> >> >> My blog: http://doingitdeeper.blogspot.com/
>>> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>>> >> >>>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Madison Martin via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> >>> >>> I'm a home-body, I'd rather stay home and watch TV then go for a >>> walk. Also I get driven everywhere.
>>> >>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Peggy via BlindTlk
>>> >>> Sent: March 10, 2021 2:29 PM
>>> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> >>> Cc: Peggy
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >>> >>> What sort of life style do you have? A dog may give you the >>> confidence that you need to get out. Even if that just means >>> getting out for walks in your neighborhood or going to a local store or restaurant.
>>> >>> >>> Peggy & Dixie Marie
>>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>> >>>>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 10:21 AM, Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not sure my lifestyle is suitable for a guide dog. I still >>>> really want to be a groomer, but not sure I'll be able to get the >>>> hands-on training that I need as none of the grooming schools are >>>> willing to take me and none of the groomers around hear think that I can do it.
>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Peggy via BlindTlk
>>> >>>> Sent: March 9, 2021 11:14 PM
>>> >>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> >>>> Cc: Peggy
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >>>> >>>> Madison, thought you wanted to be a groomer and also get a guide dog?
>>> >>>> Peggy & Dixie Marie
>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>>> >>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've been trying to find a job but haven't had any luck yet. I'm >>>>> not going to school again unless I find something that really peaks my interest.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Justin Williams via BlindTlk
>>> >>>>> Sent: March 9, 2021 2:13 PM
>>> >>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' >>>>> Cc: Justin Williams
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are you in college yet, or moving on to a career?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Justin
>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 3:05 PM
>>> >>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' >>>>> Cc: madisonmartin463 at gmail.com
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >>>>> >>>>> She's 14 and I'm 21. No they haven't and no she isn't. We've >>>>> tried asking her to say the same thing nicely, but she hasn't >>>>> listened so far. I don't think she has any mental health issues. >>>>> We've never had the best relationship, but I'd say the last >>>>> couple of years that it's been
>>> >>>> happening, this past year for sure.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Lauren Merryfield via BlindTlk
>>> >>>>> Sent: March 9, 2021 1:17 PM
>>> >>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> >>>>> Cc: Lauren Merryfield
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Madison,
>>> >>>>> My professional suggestions might be rusty, but here goes:
>>> >>>>> Some random thoughts and questions to your family issues:
>>> >>>>> >>>>> First of all, you did not mention your blindness and your >>>>> family's response to it.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> How old is your sister? >>>>> >>>>> You mentioned that she is six years older than you but her age is important.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When and how long did she start doing this kind of behavior?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is there a reason your family has allowed this to go on?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> it certainly does sound like a self-esteem issue possibly for >>>>> both of you or your entire family.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Your family might consider the following points:
>>> >>>>> >>>>> retaliating would not help any of you at all.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Disrespect toward, and abuse to your cats should not be allowed.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ignoring the bullying behavior.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asking her what is hurting her
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Telling her you love her, no matter what she says
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asking her if there is a different way she could say the same >>>>> thing;
>>> >>>>> >>>>> asking her to do so might help.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Your family might need to engage in these types of behavior >>>>> toward your sister repeatedly.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> It could be that your parents could also practice these ways of >>>>> responding to your sister's rudeness.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> It sounds like she is hungry for attention, which, coming from >>>>> the rest of your family, needs to be positive but firm.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Your parents could find out if she is being bullied at school.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> They could see if any staff members have observed her >>>>> misbehaving in some way at school.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have your parents talked to any of the staff at the school?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has she seen the school counselor?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have your parents made sure that your sister is seeing the school counselor?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> If your sister is out of school, are any of these issues >>>>> occurring at work or whatever she is engaged in currently?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> If she is still at home, could she get her own apartment? >>>>> >>>>> Respect, or lack thereof, in your family, seems to be an >>>>> important term in these
>>> >>>>> issues:
>>> >>>>> >>>>> self respect or lack of it
>>> >>>>> >>>>> disrespect for the rest of you, including the cats.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Disrespect for her from the rest of your family could be bringing her down.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> One can dislike the behavior, but love the person. >>>>> This is very important.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Separating those two issues could be difficult for your family to accomplish.
>>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> If she is still living with her parents, which it sounds like, >>>>> then the parents need to be parents.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Family dynamics are probably contributing to this behavioral issue. >>>>> >>>>> Possibly your parents could find a good family therapist who >>>>> could help all of your family members.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> If she misbehaves in therapy, the therapist would notice.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is there a possibility of mental health issues?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Could she be put on any medication that might calm her down or >>>>> help with depression or any issues like that she may have?
>>> >>>>> >>>>> A psychiatrist might be able to figure that out.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Someone who is untreated can have issues they don't totally have control of.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> .......
>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blessings,
>>> >>>>> Lauren
>>> >>>>> >>>>> "What a power is love! It is the most wonderful, the greatest of >>>>> all living powers. Love gives life to the lifeless. Love lights >>>>> a flame in the heart that is cold.Love brings hope to the >>>>> hopeless and gladdens the hearts of the sorrowful. In the world >>>>> of existence there is indeed no greater power than the power of love."
>>> >>>>> Abdu'l-Baha
>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 10:07 AM
>>> >>>>> To: Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>>> >>>>> Cc: Jude DaShiell
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] vent about my sister
>>> >>>>> >>>>> You're playing her game. Indefinite ostracism is likely the only >>>>> way to handle this problem child.
>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Madison Martin via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I just really need to get this all out, as it's >>>>>>> really been bothering me.
>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First of all I should tell you that my sister and I are 6 >>>>>>> years apart and have never had the same interests so therefore >>>>>>> our relationship has never been that grate. Lately things have >>>>>>> gotten worse
>>> >>>> though.
>>> >>>>>>> She's taken to bullying me. She tells me to shut up, says I'm >>>>>>> annoying and
>>> >>>>>> sensitive, none of which are true.
>>> >>>>>>> She also says that no one cares about my opinion. She also >>>>>>> likes to say, "are you dumb or you stupid?" and "I'm not being >>>>>>> rude I'm just being honest," when in truth she is being rude >>>>>>> and she knows full-well that it is. I've tried giving her a >>>>>>> taste of her own medicine (not as rudely of course), but that >>>>>>> didn't work as she just mocked me. She's also become a real >>>>>>> potty-mouth which drives us all nuts. We can't even have a >>>>>>> family meeting because she won't let the rest of us talk, she >>>>>>> just thinks that she's right and that we're the problem. She >>>>>>> also does this thing where she breathes in deeply holds it and >>>>>>> then lets it out, it sounds like she's having an assma attack >>>>>>> or dying. She thinks it's cool, but really it just sounds >>>>>>> absolutely horrible and is extremely annoying. She also loves >>>>>>> to bother our cats, especially our youngest one Charlie, by >>>>>>> blowing in their faces, touching their paws, chasing them, and >>>>>>> picking them up when they don't want to be held. Because of >>>>>>> this Charlie gets very defensive when we pet him or try and >>>>>>> move him and he's also not as affectionate as he might have >>>>>>> been. Also, Rosie our middle cat is very skittish and gets >>>>>>> scared so easily, it's sad. I think she feels that she doesn't >>>>>>> get treated fairly and that I never get punished for anything >>>>>>> which isn't true at all. She also feels like we don't listen >>>>>>> to her which isn't true at all, we do, she just isn't always
>>> >>>>>> right. She also calls us loosers, and criticizes me or at least >>>>>> questions me about just about everything that I either do or don't do.
>>> >>>>>>> She seems to have a tendency to not remember things how they >>>>>>> actually happened and stretch the truth, and she also lies.
>>> >>>>>>> She's not very empathetic, Mom and Dad have to make her >>>>>>> apologize for being mean to me, and she never sounds sincere. >>>>>>> She also has self-esteem issues, she thinks she's ugly when she really isn't.
>>> >>>>>>> I worry that she's being bullied at school, and is therefor lashing out.
>>> >>>>>>> Mom has asked her, but she's said no, but as I said she's been >>>>>>> known to lie. I also worry about how her and her friends treat >>>>>>> each other, some of them aren't the nicest people. She just >>>>>>> has an all-around crappy attitude. Dad and I have talked about >>>>>>> going to therapy and she'd be the main topic which would be >>>>>>> fine, but I worry that a therapist might not be able to help >>>>>>> us/her, especially since I know she wouldn't listen/talk to >>>>>>> them she'd probably just say that we're the problem. Anyway, I >>>>>>> know that you can't do anything, but I just really needed to >>>>>>> get this all out, as I'm really getting very fed up with her >>>>>>> and living with someone who treats me and Mom and Dad the way >>>>>>> she does. If you read this far then thanks for reading, >>>>>>> Madison
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