[BlindTlk] {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: My outburst towards Raymond Foret and staying focused.

Judy Jones sonshines59 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 12 21:57:25 UTC 2021 

Hi, Alan,

Oh sure 😊 I don't blame you.  I have had to go no-mail on some lists myself for a while when other activities step up.

I have to ask you, is there a way on the nfbnet lists to find the individual's e-mail address?  My usual method isn't revealing anything.

Thanks.

Judy


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From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler via BlindTlk
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 1:47 PM
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Subject: [BlindTlk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: My outburst towards Raymond Foret and staying focused.

You can write me off list, but, please, before you send me any links, I want to know who they are from. I want to make sure your sources are unbiased and accurate in their reporting. Please do not reply on list as I am planning to go no mail very shortly.

Alan

"If you want to practice anything, practice knowing you can do whatever you set your complete mind to." Victor Wooten "The Music Lesson"

My blog: http://doingitdeeper.blogspot.com/

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> On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Would be glad to send you what I have off list, if you are interested.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Judy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler 
> via BlindTlk
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 1:04 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Alan Wheeler <blindsticks at gmail.com>
> Subject: [BlindTlk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: My outburst towards Raymond Foret and staying focused.
> 
> But you are making it sound like outside groups/individuals are controlling the BLM movement. So, again, who are your sources for this information? It's a simple question. 
> 
> 
> "If you want to practice anything, practice knowing you can do whatever you set your complete mind to." Victor Wooten "The Music Lesson"
> 
> My blog: http://doingitdeeper.blogspot.com/
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:55 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alan 
>> Wheeler via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 12:52 PM
>> To: But it's not BLM I'm talking about here.
>> 
>> Judy
>> Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Alan Wheeler <blindsticks at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [BlindTlk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} Re: My outburst towards Raymond Foret and staying focused.
>> 
>> That depends on your sources, how legit they are and what their agenda/political leanings are. I don't buy this trying to discredit BLM. It's just another way, IMO, to keep those who are marginalized just that...marginalized.
>> 
>> So, no offense, I'd want to know who your news sources are first.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "If you want to practice anything, practice knowing you can do whatever you set your complete mind to." Victor Wooten "The Music Lesson"
>> 
>> My blog: http://doingitdeeper.blogspot.com/
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not the black lives matter movement that I am against, not in the least.  What I am against are the real people now behind the movement, not like when it was first started, and their agenda isn't about black lives mattering, as it should be.  I believe it is the Socialists that are really now running what's behind that, I can show documentation, as I listen to news other than the mainstream who will not broadcast other than their party line.  
>>> 
>>> Anyone interested in links and such, you are welcome to write me off-list.   But the narrative that's out there isn't really what's going on.
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle 
>>> Ledet via BlindTlk
>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:03 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] {Spam?} Re: My outburst towards Raymond Foret and staying focused.
>>> 
>>> Agree.
>>> 
>>>>> On 3/11/21, Alan Wheeler via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Judy,
>>>> To you and all individuals espousing this "all liives matter" idea, 
>>>> I say if that is so then the Black Lives Matter movement wouldn't 
>>>> be a problem for you, and it would be defended and supported 
>>>> instead of vilified. That's all I am going to say on that as I can 
>>>> already tell we'll need to agree to disagree.
>>>> 
>>>> Other than that, as I have stated elsewhere, issues facing the 
>>>> blind, no matter what kind of issues they are all demand equal 
>>>> attention. No one issue need take priority over another, in my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "If you want to practice anything, practice knowing you can do 
>>>> whatever you set your complete mind to." Victor Wooten "The Music Lesson"
>>>> 
>>>> My blog: http://doingitdeeper.blogspot.com/
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk 
>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Alan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am a conservative, and I am a Christian, but when I first saw 
>>>>> the Black Lives Matter slogan, to me it's obvious, of course they 
>>>>> matter, all life does, as it should.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But the movement's initial agenda has been hijacked by those with 
>>>>> deeper socialist agendas, that keep people busy chasing their 
>>>>> tails, while work is done behind the scenes, and I do have documentation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meanwhile, My bigger concern is what is happening to our 
>>>>> constitutional republic now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's another topic, though, and if we all stay focused on issues 
>>>>> of and for the blind, our course, as an organization will stay true.
>>>>> There will always be people out there, losing their vision, or new 
>>>>> to the organization that need to know about security, equality and 
>>>>> opportunity for blind people, changing what it means to be blind, 
>>>>> and to live the lives we want.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Conservative or liberal, regardless of race, creed, etc., we all 
>>>>> have being blind in common, and as an organization, we need to 
>>>>> continue in solidarity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we are going to do the work we need to do, we can't afford to 
>>>>> factionalize, which takes time and energy away from constructive 
>>>>> forward momentum.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Judy
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Alan 
>>>>> Wheeler via BlindTlk
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 5:33 AM
>>>>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: Alan Wheeler <blindsticks at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] My outburst towards Raymond Foret.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to apologize for my outburst towards Mr. Foret. I 
>>>>> admit to speaking out of anger. While he is free to believe 
>>>>> whatever he believes, I see his beliefs as antithetical to the 
>>>>> philosophical foundation of the federation. Discrimination, 
>>>>> whether towards someone who is blind, or who has a different skin color is inherently wrong.
>>>>> I wonder how people such as Mr.
>>>>> Foret feel when they are treated by people regarding their 
>>>>> blindness in much the same way black and brown people are treated 
>>>>> for the color of their skin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How can they, reasonably, consider one form of bigotry and 
>>>>> prejudice wrong, and another similar one perfectly fine? How do 
>>>>> you reconcile these, apparently, differing beliefs?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, what Mr. Foret wrote deeply angered me, but it would probably 
>>>>> have been best if I had gone to him privately instead of publicly 
>>>>> chastizing him.
>>>>> For
>>>>> being so public I do apologize, but I do not apologize for my 
>>>>> strong beliefs that all men are created equal, whether black or 
>>>>> white, blind or sighted, male or female, straight or gay. Whether 
>>>>> Mr. Foret likes it or not, that equality is what this country was founded on.
>>>>> I can only pray that he, and others like him, come to see that the 
>>>>> inclusion for the blind they fight for must, by its nature, 
>>>>> include those of color.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alan Wheeler
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "If you want to practice anything, practice knowing you can do 
>>>>> whatever you set your complete mind to." Victor Wooten "The Music 
>>>>> Lesson"
>>>>> 
>>>>> My blog: http://doingitdeeper.blogspot.com/
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