[BlindTlk] visually impaired people not caring about personal hygiene..

Sat Dec 30 00:52:33 UTC 2023

Madison, I think you’ve already figured it out. Your self-esteem isn’t there. Why, because partly you’ve been treated like less as a citizen. Your response has been to behave that way. The story you told us about not staying clean and what your family friend said is an example. That’s not judgmental, it’s just fact. What you have to come up with is people to be around you who bolster your confidence, but in the end, you have to realize yourself that you’re a person who deserves every right of other people. That’s not always easy, but you’ll have to work on it. First, you gotta tell yourself you are great. Eventually, if you say it long enough, you’ll probably believe it. And then you have to start doing things that show it. One of those would be to improve your hygiene. One of those will be to decide what you wanna do next, and then figure out what path you need to get on to do it. I hope this isn’t too harsh, but you been around for a long time, and you don’t have direction. If you have any friends or instructors, who believe in you more than you do, well, then talk to them about it and see if they can help you find a direction.  I don’t know if your parents believe in you because your mom gets mad at you when you make cupcakes. And you worry about it, so other things like that happen. I don’t know if this makes any sense, but I hope you’ll find a way to brighten your life in the next year. 
Cindy Lou Ray
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> On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:56 PM, Madison Martin via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I certainly know that I lack self esteem/confidence and perhaps my self perception isn't grate though I'm not sure how I'd figure that out..  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jody ianuzzi via BlindTlk
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 5:19 PM
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> Cc: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] visually impaired people not caring about personal hygiene..
> 
> Hello Madison,
> 
> One point that I think most people are missing out on is the fact that your family members make the assumption that blind people don't care about hygiene. That's quite a discriminatory and stereotypical comment for a family member to make. It's too bad they have such a low opinion of blind people. I can't help but wonder how that might affect your self perception.
> JODY
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> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
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> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik Weihenmayer
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>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Raul Gallegos - NAGDU via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all. It's my experience that if someone doesn't care about
>> their personal higeen, it's not automatically because they are blind.
>> Instead, it's most likely because they are depressed. Now, I am not
>> attaching a depression label to anyone who has commented in this
>> conversation. It also could be that someone may not worry about
>> hygiene as much because they don't know better, or they do, but
>> conscienciously choose to not do anything about it. I have come across
>> many people in my line of work who don't care about their hygiene and it matters not if they are blind or not.
>> 
>> Just my 2 shampoo bottles worth.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mark Tardif
>> via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 3:01 PM
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>> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] visually impaired people not caring about
>> personal hygiene..
>> 
>> Hello, Madison,
>> 
>> I think sometimes we may have to be gently reminded about hygiene, but
>> my sense is that most blind people I know do care about cleanliness
>> and appearance.  I certainly care about such things, so for me it's
>> important to shower often and wear clean clothes.  I am often out of
>> the apartment doing social things, but even if I wasn't, I would just
>> feel better if I made sure to take care of such things.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Madison Martin via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:48 PM
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Madison Martin
>> Subject: [BlindTlk] visually impaired people not caring about personal
>> hygine..
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was complaining to a sighted family friend about how my parents
>> bugging me about showering etc. and she said that from what she's
>> heard it's common for visually impaired people to not care about their
>> appearance; is this true? I don't want any greef/judgement only an
>> answer to my question; I have very oily hair but I've been known to go
>> more then a week without showering simply because I hardly ever go
>> anywhere and so I really don't care what I look like/if I smell. Look
>> forward to your answers, Madison
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