[BlindTlk] Computers

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at panix.com
Mon Feb 13 19:57:55 UTC 2023


On Windows at least, service pack updates have failed in the past.   The
windows update utility when I had last used it in 2013 wasn't intelligent
enough to pull in dependencies and install things correctly.  Windows
unlike Window-eyes is not self-healing.  Linux isn't self-healing either
but has a larger support staff than windows on the internet.  For those
that don't know what self-healing means, on a self-healing operating
system an update fails.  The computer gets rebooted.  Then the computer
calls the factory and sends the factory a remediation log in which the
failure of the update is recorded along with all of the needed hardware
information.  Developers at the factory then rewrite the update so it
continues to work on all systems that haven't sent remediation logs and
then works on the systems that sent remediation logs.  Then the update is
made available again and this time the update installs correctly.  That is
what Window-Eyes had working before it went away.



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On Mon, 13 Feb 2023, Sami Osborne via BlindTlk wrote:

> I actually did update from Windows 10 to 11 when it was first released last year, because they were offering a free upgrade on my computer. That was back in March/April 2022 though so it might not be available now; you might have to pay for Windows 11 if you don't have it already.
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> Frankly I don't understand why so many blind people seem hesitant to install updates on their phones and computers, even minor ones. Yes, there can certainly be bugs when new versions are released, but most of the time they're really not so severe as to affect the overall functioning of your device. I just install any updates when I can and as soon as they're released to the public.
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> SamiOn Feb 13, 2023 1:42 PM, dandrews920--- via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> > Many Windows updates are related to security. By not installing them, you risk malware, viruses, and gettingyour computer taken over.  You should  do most updates. You may not, for example want to go from windows 10 to 11, but you should keep updating Windows 10.
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> > Dave
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jen via BlindTlk
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 1:44 PM
> > To: Jamelle via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers
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> > I've disabled all Windows updates with the registry.
> > Every time I've gotten a computer, I've installed JAWS on it myself.
> >     On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 01:42:0?PM EST, Jamelle via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
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> > Hi,
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> > I wanted to ask everyone on the list how often do you get a new computer with assistive technologies included?
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> > I also would like to ask about window updates. Do you install every new version of windows etc?
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> > I'm asking because I think it's time for me to get a new pc (I think I purchased my current pc in 2012);  and I'm thinking about purchasing a new computer.
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> > Thanks,
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