Is this with Apple?<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR />Judy<BR />sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris<BR />"Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."<BR /><BR />----- Original Message -----<BR />From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />Date: Monday, June 03, 2019 05:44 PM<BR />Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR /><BR />I can't figure that app out. 1Password used to be free and I had stuff there but lost it after a momth. Don't trust these apps.<BR /><BR />Ericka Nelson<BR /><BR />> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org> wrote:<BR />> <BR />> Yes, but if you download and use an app like Dashline, that should take care<BR />> of that problem.<BR />> <BR />> Judy<BR />> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."<BR />> <BR />> <BR />> <BR />> -----Original Message-----<BR />> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude<BR />> DaShiell via BlindTlk<BR />> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 2:39 PM<BR />> To: Ericka via BlindTlk<BR />> Cc: Jude DaShiell<BR />> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR />> <BR />> Unfortunately, these phones don't export passwords. When I get<BR />> passwords and when I remember I write those down in braille. If other<BR />> braille users are around, I can always use encryption.<BR />> <BR />> One simple technique for encryption has everything broken into 5 letter<BR />> groups and the first letter is a clear letter but every letter after<BR />> that first letter gets added to the last letter. An example, the word<BR />> letter encrypts like this:<BR />> lqkejd.<BR />> <BR />> Alphabet has 26 letters in it unless you want to put upper-case and<BR />> numbers in which case the character set has 62.<BR />> To make things easy, lower-case upper-case then numbers in that order<BR />> could lay out the character set.<BR />> For password encryption if you went beyond letters and numbers and that<BR />> happens often you'd have to use the whole 95-character printing set<BR />> omitting the space.<BR />> <BR />>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:<BR />>> <BR />>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:41:13<BR />>> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1@gmail.com><BR />>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR />>> <BR />>> This depresses me. I don?t want to change! I?d better get all my passwords<BR />> figured out before I have to get a new one. :-)<BR />>> <BR />>> Ericka Nelson<BR />>> <BR />>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk<BR />> <blindtlk@nfbnet.org> wrote:<BR />>>> <BR />>>> Try 2014 when I got a 6+ that was new then.<BR />>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Judy<BR />>>> Jones via BlindTlk wrote:<BR />>>> <BR />>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 15:44:15<BR />>>>> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />>>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59@gmail.com><BR />>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> I believe iPhone supports their versions for five years, so depends on<BR />> when<BR />>>>> that one came out. Correct me if I am wrong.<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> Judy<BR />>>>> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> -----Original Message-----<BR />>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James<BR />> Kelm<BR />>>>> via BlindTlk<BR />>>>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:28 PM<BR />>>>> To: 'Jude DaShiell'; 'James Kelm via BlindTlk'<BR />>>>> Cc: James Kelm<BR />>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> This is great! I am enjoying the discussion concerning Cell phones,<BR />> and you<BR />>>>> all are helping me to feel less of a dinesore. LOLL<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> OK, what are your thoughts? I spoke with my carrier, and they<BR />> said<BR />>>>> that I can get a iPhone 6S for around $250, I can't recall the exact<BR />> number,<BR />>>>> and it would cost me around $20 per month, which is definitely within<BR />> my<BR />>>>> budget. They of course have all of the iPhones up to the current<BR />> model, but<BR />>>>> they cost more. The 6S caught my attention because the guy said that<BR />> he<BR />>>>> couldn't see it being unsupported for quite a while, and it is the<BR />> lowest<BR />>>>> priced iPhone that they have.<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> Respectfully,<BR />>>>> James<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> -----Original Message-----<BR />>>>> From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdashiel@panix.com]<BR />>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:54 PM<BR />>>>> To: James Kelm via BlindTlk<BR />>>>> Cc: James Kelm<BR />>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> You're out of date already with the iPhone 4s. For the android choice<BR />>>>> I'd ask what operating system upgrade can it take. Android 4 is<BR />>>>> Ice-cream Sandwich and I got my tablet I think in 2014 that had a later<BR />>>>> operating system on it than that. Android Q will be available later<BR />>>>> this year and that's version 10. It's best to keep current with<BR />>>>> operating systems if you value security. The iPhone 4s is obsolete<BR />>>>> according to Apple.<BR />>>>> <BR />>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, James Kelm via BlindTlk wrote:<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 10:45:08<BR />>>>>> From: James Kelm via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />>>>>> Cc: James Kelm <jameskelm@earthlink.net><BR />>>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> Dear friends,<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> OK, I am going to be trying to enter into this century, at least as<BR />>>>> far<BR />>>>>> as telephones go! LOLL I can use your help!<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> I need to get a smart phone for work. But like so many others, I<BR />> have<BR />>>>> a<BR />>>>>> limited financial budget. I need the phone for calls of course, but<BR />> that<BR />>>>> is<BR />>>>>> actually somewhat secondary. I mainly need it so that I can learn<BR />> about<BR />>>>> the<BR />>>>>> wide range of aps out there that are especially helpful for the blind.<BR />> So<BR />>>>>> my main question is this, I can get an affordable price on the<BR />> following<BR />>>>>> phones: Sky Devices 5.0Q 8GB 3G/4G Android 4.4 Unlocked $79.99, and<BR />> the<BR />>>>>> iPhone 4S 8 GB $99.00. Are either of these phones a particularly good<BR />>>>>> choice for me to start my smart phone journey on? Also, are they<BR />>>>> something<BR />>>>>> that will serve me well, or will I be frustrated and out of date very<BR />>>>>> quickly. Are they like getting a computer with an OS of Windows 5? I<BR />>>>> tend<BR />>>>>> to be more interested in the iPhone, but is this one a great deal<BR />>>>> different<BR />>>>>> from those that were just released? Like I said I need this for work,<BR />> so<BR />>>>> I<BR />>>>>> want to make the right choices.<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> Thank you so much for your help!<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> Respectfully,<BR />>>>>> James<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>>> _______________________________________________<BR />>>>>> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />>>>>> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />>>>> BlindTlk:<BR />>>>>> <BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/jdashiel%40panix.com<BR />>>>>> <BR />>>>> <BR />>>>> <BR />>>> <BR />>>> --<BR />>>> <BR />>>> <BR />>>> _______________________________________________<BR />>>> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />>>> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />> BlindTlk:<BR />>>> <BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dotwriter1%40gmail.com<BR />>> _______________________________________________<BR />>> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />>> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />> BlindTlk:<BR />>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/jdashiel%40panix.com<BR />>> <BR />> <BR />> -- <BR />> <BR />> <BR />> _______________________________________________<BR />> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />> BlindTlk:<BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.co<BR />> m<BR />> <BR />> <BR />> _______________________________________________<BR />> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindTlk:<BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dotwriter1%40gmail.com<BR />_______________________________________________<BR />BlindTlk mailing list<BR />BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindTlk:<BR />http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com