Right. and I had never heard of them either, until we were presented with the opportunity to view the ones in Everett.<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR /><BR />Judy<BR />sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris<BR /><BR />"Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."<BR /><BR />----- Original Message -----<BR />From: Elizabeth Campbell via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />Date: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:24 PM<BR />Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?<BR /><BR />Judy, thanks for the clarification about this type of bus stop. I honestly<BR />had not heard about this until you sent your inquiry.<BR /><BR /><BR />On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:54 PM Judy Jones via BlindTlk <<BR />blindtlk@nfbnet.org> wrote:<BR /><BR />> These aren't floating stops. They are a bulb of concrete large enough to<BR />> accommodate a bus stop area, and I imagine, since they are fixed, we would<BR />> use landmarks to find the stops, just as we do now. I'm traveling with our<BR />> committee to view one.<BR />><BR />> My concern is getting enough driver complaints where the transit authority<BR />> would have to consider floating bus stops in future.<BR />><BR />> Judy<BR />><BR />> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."<BR />><BR />> -----Original Message-----<BR />> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth<BR />> Campbell via BlindTlk<BR />> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 6:16 AM<BR />> To: Blind Talk Mailing List<BR />> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell<BR />> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?<BR />><BR />> Judy, I don't have any experience with this type of bus stop, but I think<BR />> this concept would not work well for blind passengers. For instance, how<BR />> would we locate the stops if they can be moved to different locations? I"m<BR />> sure we can find the bulbs with our canes, but guide dogs are trained to<BR />> avoid obstacles. We can pattern the dogs to find specific bus stops, etc.,<BR />> but if these floating stops are implemented, I think they would create<BR />> barriers to access.<BR />> Just my thoughts here as I haven't experienced using these types of stops.<BR />> I am in Fort Worth, and we have stops that are pretty easy to find as many<BR />> have shelters and so forth.<BR />><BR />> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Judy Jones via BlindTlk<BR />> <blindtlk@nfbnet.org><BR />> wrote:<BR />><BR />> > Hello,<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > My husband and I are on the Skagit Transit Community Advisory Council.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > In a couple of weeks, we will all be traveling down to Everett,<BR />> Washington<BR />> > to view their bulb bus stops set up.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > As I understand it, the bulb is just that, a jut-out bulb directly from<BR />> the<BR />> > curb, where the buss would stop. This allows the bus to not have to pull<BR />> > out of a lane of traffic in order to pick up passengers.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > I asked about the bus blocking traffic in that lane, and about possible<BR />> > future driver complaints, but was told there is another lane of traffic<BR />> > cars<BR />> > could pull into on a 4-lane street.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > My big question is if this is something that could evolve into<BR />> implementing<BR />> > floating bus stops in future.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > Do you all have any experience, pros or cons you can share regarding bulb<BR />> > bus stops?<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > Skagit County has neither, and is not planning on implementing any<BR />> floating<BR />> > stops, thank heavens, but want to get feedback from others around the<BR />> > country on the bulb stops.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > Thanks, all, for your input and suggestions.<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > Judy<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />> > _______________________________________________<BR />> > BlindTlk mailing list<BR />> > BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />> > BlindTlk:<BR />> ><BR />> ><BR />><BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/batescampbell%40gmail.<BR />> com<BR />> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/batescampbell%40gmail.com><BR />> ><BR />><BR />><BR />> --<BR />> Elizabeth Campbell<BR />> _______________________________________________<BR />> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />> BlindTlk:<BR />><BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.co<BR />> m<BR />> <http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com><BR />><BR />><BR />> _______________________________________________<BR />> BlindTlk mailing list<BR />> BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<BR />> BlindTlk:<BR />><BR />> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/batescampbell%40gmail.com<BR />><BR /><BR /><BR />-- <BR />Elizabeth Campbell<BR />_______________________________________________<BR />BlindTlk mailing list<BR />BlindTlk@nfbnet.org<BR />http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org<BR />To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindTlk:<BR />http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sonshines59%40gmail.com