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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t think we ever had a church bus. People just had to come in their cars. When I went to church, my mother drove me. Pam.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:blindtlk@nfbnet.org">Jamelle via BlindTlk</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, April 30, 2022 8:53 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:blindtlk@nfbnet.org">Blind Talk Mailing List</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:jmail201586@yahoo.com">jmail201586@yahoo.com</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [BlindTlk] Churches And Accessibility</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi everyone,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Well I can definitely tell you that back in the day, my grandmother and I would ride the "church bus" this is what my church refers to the bus. Now today if I want to attend a service, I'll catch a taxi. Or, have a family member bring me back home. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-----Original Message-----</p><p class=MsoNormal>From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ericka via BlindTlk</p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2022 7:43 PM</p><p class=MsoNormal>To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk@nfbnet.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Churches And Accessibility</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve never attended a mag of church and never intend to. I’ve never attended a church that had a bus system like those bus ministry things you’re talking about I’ve always been able to get a ride. You just have to ask. I’ve lived in several places and never ever had a problem.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ericka Nelson</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> On Feb 10, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Peter Donahue via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Hello everyone,</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> And some of the churches that don't have bus ministries are </p><p class=MsoNormal>> megachurches with mega funds to spend. If they can operate their own </p><p class=MsoNormal>> schools, homes for unwed mothers to be, and operate many other </p><p class=MsoNormal>> ministries they should be able to operate bus ministries so all who </p><p class=MsoNormal>> wish to attend church in person can do so.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Peter Donahue</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> -----Original Message-----</p><p class=MsoNormal>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones </p><p class=MsoNormal>> via BlindTlk</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:28 AM</p><p class=MsoNormal>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk@nfbnet.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Churches And Accessibility</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Some churches do not have any bus ministry or rideshare setup while </p><p class=MsoNormal>> others will.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> One of the churches we attended, when we let it known we would need </p><p class=MsoNormal>> rides, the pastor very appropriately announced it, to our surprise, </p><p class=MsoNormal>> and we had several offers for regular rides. Sometimes, it's just </p><p class=MsoNormal>> helping people to understand the need and offering to help out with gas.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Another church helped out when I called the church office to try to </p><p class=MsoNormal>> set something up. It is helping them to understand that a ride </p><p class=MsoNormal>> doesn't necessarily mean an accessible van.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Judy</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> -----Original Message-----</p><p class=MsoNormal>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Justin </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Williams via BlindTlk</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 9:14 AM</p><p class=MsoNormal>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk@nfbnet.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Cc: Justin Williams <justin.williams2@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Churches And Accessibility</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> They don't have to abide by ADA, so you really need to hope that the </p><p class=MsoNormal>> father steps in, here.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Haven't had much luck, though I've been to a few accessibility </p><p class=MsoNormal>> presentations at churches, one to be exact.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> If it is too hard, they will try nicely to get around it.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> You can sometimes get volunteers to help you with stuff, I've found </p><p class=MsoNormal>> that works fairly well in church.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> I had a pastor at a church tell me they couldn't have someone come to </p><p class=MsoNormal>> get me on Sundays, even though they had a 5000 member church. The </p><p class=MsoNormal>> church had an elevator in it; it was huge.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> So, it is hit and miss. You'll have to probably do more teaching and </p><p class=MsoNormal>> educating in this instance. Show them the WACG guidelines.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Thanks,</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Justin</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> -----Original Message-----</p><p class=MsoNormal>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of VIAS, </p><p class=MsoNormal>> ARMANDO via BlindTlk</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:36 AM</p><p class=MsoNormal>> To: blindtlk@nfbnet.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Cc: VIAS, ARMANDO <armando@armandovias.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Churches And Accessibility</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Importance: High</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> For those of you that go to church, have you ever had to advocate for </p><p class=MsoNormal>> accessible accommodations? 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