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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Oh, I do agree with this message. I don’t have Sketchers yet; I have an off brand that some people say looks like them. To me, they look like a pair of bedroom slippers. I might have been one of those blind people who had blindness as the only reason not to wear tie shoes, but when I went to the New York Institute, they used clothesline rope to teach me how to tie my shoes. I was already almost nine at the time! Also, learning how to tie knots helps with much more than just tying shoes! Pam.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:blindtlk@nfbnet.org">Steve Jacobson via BlindTlk</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 30, 2024 3:59 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:blindtlk@nfbnet.org">Blind Talk Mailing List</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:steve.jacobson@outlook.com">Steve Jacobson</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [BlindTlk] Skechers..</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Although I have Sketchers and like them, there are several things one should know. First, there are different styles of sketchers. I have one pair, for example, that have laces and are not intended to be hands-free. Depending upon the style, some will be easier to put on hands free than others.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Second, they are a fairly casual shoe. There may be occasions where they are not the best shoe to wear. Again, though, the style one chooses may affect this some.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Finally, I know there are many physical reasons that might cause one to have difficulty putting on shoes. I hate, though, to see blindness with no other explanation used as a reason to buy hands-free or slip-on shoes. There are times when it can be a disadvantage to wear shoes that can slip on and then slip off too easily.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best regards,</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve Jacobson</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-----Original Message-----</p><p class=MsoNormal>From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk</p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 2:17 PM</p><p class=MsoNormal>To: Aaron Spears via BlindTlk <blindtlk@nfbnet.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Skechers..</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It shouldn't be necessary to pull on sketchers at all. I put them on standing up and take them off the same way. Best put a hand on a wallor two when doing this though or hold onto a bureau for balance.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>--</p><p class=MsoNormal> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com></p><p class=MsoNormal> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:</p><p class=MsoNormal> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.</p><p class=MsoNormal> Please use in that order."</p><p class=MsoNormal> Ed Howdershelt 1940.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, Aaron Spears via BlindTlk wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Hi.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Maybe. I know there's often the loop on the outside of the heel to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> pull on, and they make a gadget to hook in that and pull. But this</p><p class=MsoNormal>> goes inside for your heel to slide against to make it easier to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> stretch the shoe around it without just collapsing it.</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Cheers:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity"</p><p class=MsoNormal>> http://valian/</p><p class=MsoNormal>> tgalaxy.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce60b5cbbd86146101c0408dc694a4226%7C84</p><p class=MsoNormal>> df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638501014869675473%7CUnknown%</p><p class=MsoNormal>> 7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJX</p><p class=MsoNormal>> VCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ngfg87P9crJkcFJf1Ycev6RnE5u0NAPnkgTQ4oRH</p><p class=MsoNormal>> zEE%3D&reserved=0</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> On 4/29/2024 3:52 PM, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Isn’t it called a shoe horn? Or are you talking about something else. Pam.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Sent from Mail</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > <https://go/</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > .microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce60b5</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > cbbd86146101c0408dc694a4226%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > C0%7C638501014869681986%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nT</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ENBUoX7I626a5TyjBjtknpBDaQ3KzyxSw5ht5AuZk%3D&reserved=0> for Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > *From: *Aaron Spears via BlindTlk <mailto:blindtlk@nfbnet.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > *Sent: *Monday, April 29, 2024 1:56 PM</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > *To: *Blind Talk Mailing List <mailto:blindtlk@nfbnet.org></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > *Cc: *Aaron Spears <mailto:valiant8086@gmail.com></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > *Subject: *Re: [BlindTlk] Skechers..</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Hi.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Cool question. No idea if I have dainty feet that would make this</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > different, but I tie my sneakers tight and I can still get them off.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Perhaps I have a different structure because I have to take care not</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > to</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > have a pair that my heels will bounce up and down in. At the moment</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > I have</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > two pair of New Balance and the insole has lines in it around the</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > toes and</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > along where certain tendons on the sole would be, and they're pretty</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > nice</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > for mme. They're not mesh at all so get warm, but I prefer my feet</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > to be</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > warm so it doesn't bother me. I've had skketchers before and think</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > you will</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > like. You can also learn to tie your shoes unless you have</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > challenges with</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > motor function. It just takes patience. Blind people should</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > generally be</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > able to tie just as well as sighted, it's hands-on work, after all.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > I just</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > am a lazy butt so I tie them and then double not them and I yank</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > them on or</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > off without bothering to untie. I've figured out how to use my toe</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > against</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > the heel and remove them without even bending over or sitting down.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > Even</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > tied like that I usually can slip them on relatively easy, I just</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > insert a</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > finger on the inner heel when I slide my foot in and the press down</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > with</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > the heel, the finger makes sure the shoe's heel doesn't collapse.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > They make</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > a gadget for that too, no idea what it's called.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 9:45 AM Jody ianuzzi via BlindTlk <</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > blindtlk@nfbnet.org> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > Another alternative is to get stretchy shoelaces They will stretch</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > when</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > you put your foot in the shoe but then they say snug.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > I also love Skechers!</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > JODY</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > To Boldly Go 🖖🏻</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > thunderwalker321@gmail.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > BARRIERS</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > Erik Weihenmayer</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:11 AM, hugeemaillistlover2018--- via</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > BlindTlk <</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > blindtlk@nfbnet.org> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > Hi all,</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > I love being able to put things on/take them off without undoing</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > anything so my</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > mom thinks that I should get Skechers since you can slip them</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > on/off but</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > she</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > doesn't have any. Since I don't know anything about them I was</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > wondering</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > if any</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > of you have a pair and if so what are they like/what do you</p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > > think of</p><p class=MsoNormal>> ></p><p class=MsoNormal>> > > them? 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