From NABlindVets at aol.com Thu Dec 4 19:17:14 2008 From: NABlindVets at aol.com (NABlindVets at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:17:14 EST Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Fwd: FW: SAMPLE email for Imagination Fund Influencers Message-ID: ____________________________________ From: president at nabv.org To: nablindvets at aol.com Sent: 12/3/2008 7:29:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: FW: SAMPLE email for Imagination Fund Influencers ____________________________________ Best Regards, Dwight D. Sayer President, The National Association of Blind Veterans, A Division of the National Federation of the Blind 259 Regal Downs Circle Winter Garden, Fl. 34787 (407) 877-8668 _president at nabv.org_ (mailto:president at nabv.org) _http://nabv.org_ (http://nabv.org/) ____________________________________ Subject: SAMPLE email for Imagination Fund Influencers Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:35:31 -0500 From: KBowman at nfb.org To: m.barber at mchsi.com; k7uij at panix.com; maricco at uwalumni.com; president at nabv.org; blind411 at verizon.net; carrie.gilmer at gmail.com; gwunder at earthlink.net; jrs3147 at comcast.net CC: kevanworley at worleyenterprises.biz Hello fellow Influencers: Thank you for agreeing to help discuss and register your networks for the March for Independence to support the Imagination Fund. Below is a draft/sample e-mail that you can send to your networks. As with anything else follow up is the key. We have set our goal at 1000 registrants by the beginning of the year. We have a lot of work ahead, but you all have been asked because we need influencial people like you on the team, we know you can do this! If you have any questions, let me know. I'll be following up next week to see how everyone is doing. Thank you! Kristi DRAFT - Please personalize and change as desired. Hello All: I wanted to write to you to discuss my participation in the Imagination Fund and the March for Independence. The Imagination Fund benefits all of the members of the National Federation of the Blind. All monies raised in the Imagination Fund go directly to support our chapters, our affiliates, and our NFB Jernigan Institute. The March for Independence is a 5K walk-a-thon event held each year in conjunction with our national convention. The monies raised through the march/walk-a-thon go directly to the Imagination Fund. I am absolutely committed to the March for Independence because I feel very strongly that as a result of the money raised, I am helping to change what it means to be blind in a very big way. We all participate in local outreach efforts which are hugely important to our cause, but by helping to raise money by walking or virtually walking, I believe I am helping in a bigger way. I am giving back just a little time for the opportunity, the security, and the independence that the NFB has helped me to achieve. Partner with me. Register for the march right now. Become a champion for the March for Independence, for our movement. When I was asked, I couldn't say no, I hope you won't either. Thanks in advance for your participation. ____________________________________ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! _Try it now!_ (http://get.live.com/toolbar/overview) = **************Stay in touch with ALL of your friends: update your AIM, Bebo, Facebook, and MySpace pages with just one click. The NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000012) From KZakhnini at nfb.org Fri Dec 5 01:38:00 2008 From: KZakhnini at nfb.org (Zakhnini, Karen) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:38:00 -0600 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] NFB Youth Slam Message-ID: The National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam A 2009 STEM Leadership Academy Observe! Discover! Evolve! Launch rockets, perform astronomy, examine new technology, learn about engineering, solve crimes like on CSI, design solutions for the environment, meet new friends from all over the United States, play goal ball, watch movies, dance, make podcasts, meet blind role models, and experience many other adventures at the NFB Youth Slam! From July 26-August 1, 2009, two hundred blind and low vision high school students will stay at the University of Maryland, College Park, to be mentored by blind role models during fun and challenging activities meant to build confidence, expand leadership and advocacy skills, and increase science literacy. Participants will also attend various social events as well as workshops on topics such as leadership, career preparation, and advocacy. The NFB Youth Slam will culminate in an inspiring rally in Washington DC! Those interested in participating as students or mentors should complete an application by March 1, 2009. After an initial screening process, eligible students will be accepted into the program through random selection. Students and mentors need not have a strong interest in science, technology, engineering, or math (STEM) in order to participate, enjoy, and benefit from this academy. If you are interested in being a student or mentor participant or if you'd like to learn more about the NFB Youth Slam visit http://www.blindscience.org/ncbys/youth_slam.asp. Send questions about the NFB Youth Slam to youthslam at nfb.org. Karen C. Zakhnini Education Project Manager Jernigan Institute NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND Phone: (410) 659-9314, ext. 2293 Fax: (410) 659-5129 Imagine a Future Full of Opportunity... From NABlindVets at aol.com Mon Dec 8 00:56:24 2008 From: NABlindVets at aol.com (NABlindVets at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:56:24 EST Subject: [Blindvet-talk] =?utf-8?q?NFB=E2=80=99s_Target_Lawsuit_Settlement?= =?utf-8?q?_May_Mean_Money__for_You_=E2=80=93_Check=2E=2E=2E?= Message-ID: ____________________________________ From: REPCODDS To: NABlindVets Sent: 12/4/2008 2:31:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Fwd: [Nfbf-l] NFB?s Target Lawsuit Settlement May Mean Money for You ? Check... ____________________________________ From: JFreeh at nfb.org Reply-to: nfbf-l at nfbnet.org To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org Sent: 12/3/2008 10:52:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: [Nfbf-l] NFB?s Target Lawsuit Settlement May Mean Money for You ? Check out www.nfbtargetlawsuit.com now! NFB?s Target Lawsuit Settlement May Mean Money for You ? Check out www.nfbtargetlawsuit.com now! Are you legally blind? Have you tried to access the goods or services on Target.com using screen-reader software while you were in the State of California at any time between February 7, 2003 and December 9, 2008? Did you have trouble using that Web site? If so, you are probably eligible to receive up to $7,000.00 from Target under terms of the settlement between that company and the National Federation of the Blind (NFB). However, you have to apply, and time is rapidly running out. To be eligible, you must fill out and submit a claim form by no later than January 8, 2009. There are two ways to get the claim form. The easiest way is to go to www.nfbtargetlawsuit.com. You will find the claim form, instructions, and other information. You may also request a claim form from: NFB v. Target Claims Administrator, RG2 Claims Administration LLC, P.O. Box 59479, Philadelphia, PA 19102-9479 (866-742-4955). There is still time for you to submit your claim. The form may be submitted online by January 8, 2009, or mailed to the address above, postmarked by that date. You do not have to be an NFB member to qualify. Jessica A. 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(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000012) From newmanrl at cox.net Wed Dec 10 07:18:35 2008 From: newmanrl at cox.net (Robert Newman) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:18:35 -0600 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] NFB- 2009 Writing Contest for Youth and Adults Message-ID: NFB Writers' Division Writing contests For Both Youth And Adults The National Federation of the Blind Writers' Division wishes to announce our annual writing contests. The opening date for submissions in both the contests for youth and for adults is January 1st, with the closing on (Post Marked) April 1st. See all requirements below: Youth Writing Contest The NFB Writers' Division is hosting a Youth Writing Contest to promote Braille literacy and excellence in creative writing. Entries will be judged on creativity and quality of Braille. We are looking for creative writing, in the form of fiction and poetry. There is no charge for entering. This is a contest for students who use Braille. Entries must Be submitted in hand embossed Braille, either on a slate and stylus or on a Braille writer. No computer Braille entries will be considered. Submissions must be Brailled by the entrant. Elementary students (K-5) may submit contracted Braille, uncontracted Braille, or an acceptable combination of the two. Students in higher grades will be expected to submit stories or poetry in contracted Braille. There are six categories, as follows: Elementary Fiction; Elementary Poetry; Middle School Fiction; Middle School Poetry; High School Fiction; High School Poetry. Elementary is K-5. Middle School is 6-8. High School is 9-12. The contest begins January first, and ends, postmarked date April first. There will be three cash prizes for each of the six categories. First prize per contest is $25. Second prize is $15 and third prize is $5. Submissions for fiction may not exceed one thousand words. Poetry may not exceed twenty lines. Authors may submit multiple entries and all work must be original and unpublished. Each entrant must provide an identical print copy for possible publication. Entries must be accompanied by a cover sheet containing entrant's information: Name, address, phone, email, title of the entry, school and grade of entrant. Winners will be announced at our division meeting during the July 2009 NFB National convention held in Detroit, Michigan. Send to Fred Wurtzel, 1212 N Foster, Lansing Michigan, 48912. Adult Writing Contest The NFB Writers' Division's writing contest of fiction short stories and poetry for adults will be open for submissions starting January 1st, closing Post Marked April 1st. Top prize for each contest is $100, second $50, and third $25. Winners will be announced at our division meeting during the July 2009 NFB National convention held in Detroit, Michigan. Fiction: short stories can be up to 3,000 words and can be of any genre. All work must be original and previously unpublished. If you wish to submit- You are required to send a cover sheet with title of all entries, name, address, phone and email (if available). A second requirement , is please have your documents double spaced and if you are sending it hardcopy, it cannot be handwritten. The cost for submission of a single story is $5.00. You can send either a check or money order made out to the NFB Writers' Division. You have two choices for submission: First is the traditional method of sending hardcopy and check, and if you do so, send it to Tom Stevens address- 1203 S. Fairview Road, Columbia MO 65203. The second method is to email your writing and cover letter to cthls at earthlink.net And for payment for electronic submissions check our web site and see if we have PayPal by then URL http://www.nfb-writers-division.org Or, if you need to snail-mail the check, use Tom's address in choice one. Poetry: Entrants are invited to submit original poetry of up to 36 lines. If you wish to submit- You are required to send a cover sheet with title of all entries, name, address, phone and email (if available). A second requirement , is please have your documents double spaced and if you are sending it hardcopy, it cannot be handwritten. The cost is $5.00 for up to 3 poems and you can send either a check or money order made out to the NFB Writers' Division. You have two choices for submission: First is the traditional method of sending hardcopy and check, and if you do so, send it to Lori Stayer, 2704 Beach Drive, Merrick NY 11566. The second method is to email your writing and cover letter to LoriStay at aol.com And for payment for electronic submissions check our web site and see if we have PayPal by then URL http://www.nfb-writers-division.org Or, if you need to snail-mail the check, use Lori's address in choice one. President NFB Writers' Division Robert Leslie Newman Email- newmanrl at cox.net Division Website- Http://www.nfb-writers-division.org Robert Leslie Newman Email- newmanrl at cox.net THOUGHT PROVOKER Website- Http://www.thoughtprovoker.info From gwunder at earthlink.net Wed Dec 10 09:08:34 2008 From: gwunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:08:34 -0600 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Diane McGeorge E-mail Reminder-Washington Seminar Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: McCarthy, Jim Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: Diane McGeorge E-mail Reminder-Washington Seminar Fellow Federationists: The following message comes from Diane McGeorge who organizes much of the logistics of Washington Seminar. The time is growing closer than you might think. Our 2009 Washington Seminar will run from Sunday, February 8 to Wednesday, February 11. "Please get your reservations in as soon as possible." Our deadline for hotel reservations is January 5, 2009, which is only about one month off. Following is the information which I need to have to assure you of a room at the Holiday Inn. The address of the Holiday Inn Capitol is 550 C Street SW, Washington, DC 20024. 1. First of all I will need to have the names of the persons in the room. Please spell the first and last name of each person if you make the reservation by phone. You may do so by calling: (303) 778-1130, extension 219, or email (see below); and 2. I will need to have your arrival date and departure date. If people are sharing the room and their arrival and departure dates are different from yours, please be sure to indicate that; and 3. I will need to know if you wish a smoking or a non-smoking room. Also, if you have any special requirements, please advise. For example, if you require an accessible room, please include that information. If you wish to have a roll-away bed in the room, please let me know. If you request a roll-away bed, there will be an additional $15 charge per night; and 4. If you make your reservation by phone, and if you have an e-mail address, please leave that address so that we may send you confirmation that your reservation was received and processed. If you have no e-mail address, then please leave a telephone number so that I may call you back with a confirmation. You may make your reservations by e-mail by sending your request to Lisa Bonderson. Lisa's address is: lbonderson at cocenter.org. Either Lisa or I will send you a confirmation. The hotel rates are $154 per night for single, double, triple, or quad. There is an additional 14.5% hotel tax each night. When you check in you must be prepared to cover at least the first night of your stay with either a credit card or check; and then arrange to pay the balance by presenting a credit card or writing a check for the remainder of the cost. If state delegations will be paying for members with one check or one credit card, please advise Ed Cruz in the Holiday Inn Capitol accounting department prior to your arrival and he will make special arrangements for your delegation. It is also very advisable to supply to Mr. Cruz a list of the names of persons your delegation may plan to cover. It would also be advisable for you to supply me with the same list prior to arrival so that we will all be on the same page and this will lessen problems. Mr. Cruz has always been very helpful. Remember please, the deadline is January 5, 2009. There will be a number of special meetings during the seminar and you will want to watch the NFB Website for special announcements. The Great Gathering-In meeting will be held on Sunday, February 8, at 5 p.m. You certainly don't want to miss that. I hope this answers all of your questions. I look forward to seeing all of you in D.C. in February. Have a blessed holiday season. Diane McGeorge DM/wb From gwunder at earthlink.net Wed Dec 10 09:09:14 2008 From: gwunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:09:14 -0600 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Braille Test at Washington Seminar Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Braille Certification To: Louise Walch Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: Braille Test at Washington Seminar Dear NFB State Presidents, Please find attached a flyer announcing that testing for the National Certification in Literary Braille will be held on the Saturday prior to our Washington Seminar. Please pass this information along to your membership and others you think might be interested. Thanks in advance. -Louise Louise G. Walch NBPCB Coordinator 210-464-6144 Braille at nbpcb.org www.nbpcb.org ----- Braille Test at Washington Seminar Feb 7, 2009 THE NATIONAL CERTIFICATION IN LITERARY BRAILLE (NCLB) As you may be aware, the National Literary Braille Competency Test (NLBCT) of the National Library Service (NLS) has been transferred to the administration of the National Blindness Professional Certification Board (NBPCB). With the NLBCT as its cornerstone, the NBPCB has established the National Certification in Literary Braille (NCLB), which is a complete professional credential that requires recertification on a five year cycle. Individuals who were certified with the NLBCT prior to 2006 will need to retest through the NBPCB; however, the initial fee may be waived if the applicant can show proof of original NLBCT credential. The NCLB is currently the only nationally recognized certification in literary Braille. The examination has not been substantially changed from its earlier version once administered by the NLS, however a five year recertification requirement has been instituted in the interest of maintaining high standards. The exam is not aimed at transcribers. Rather, it is a valid test of a person's ability to competently read, write, and understand contracted, literary Braille, and is being targeted to all individuals who teach Braille professionally, and/or those seeking to be credentialed in this area. The next scheduled exam open for certification and recertification in 2009 is: Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009 Time: 8:00am-5:00pm (Doors close 8:30am) Location: Holiday Inn Capitol (Columbia II) 550 C Street SW Washington, DC 20024 Cost: $250 combined application/testing fee Deadline: Sunday, January 4, 2009 (or $275 late registration January 5-25) Subsequent NCLB examinations will be convened wherever an appropriate venue can be procured, and sufficient applicant numbers make it possible. Please contact the NBPCB for more details. To apply online go to: http://www.nbpcb.org/nclb/application/ or to download the NCLB Candidate Guidelines please visit: http://www.nbpcb.org/nclb/ For additional information please visit the NBPCB website at: www.nbpcb.org, call the NBPCB office at (318) 257-4554, or contact Louise Walch, NBPCB Coordinator, at: braille at nbpcb.org. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sayer President, The National Association of Blind Veterans, A Division of the National Federation of the Blind 259 Regal Downs Circle Winter Garden, Fl. 34787 (407) 877-8668 _president at nabv.org_ (mailto:president at nabv.org) _http://nabv.org_ (http://nabv.org/) ____________________________________ Subject: SAMPLE email for Imagination Fund Influencers Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:35:31 -0500 From: KBowman at nfb.org To: m.barber at mchsi.com; k7uij at panix.com; maricco at uwalumni.com; president at nabv.org; blind411 at verizon.net; carrie.gilmer at gmail.com; gwunder at earthlink.net; jrs3147 at comcast.net CC: kevanworley at worleyenterprises.biz Hello fellow Influencers: Thank you for agreeing to help discuss and register your networks for the March for Independence to support the Imagination Fund. Below is a draft/sample e-mail that you can send to your networks. As with anything else follow up is the key. We have set our goal at 1000 registrants by the beginning of the year. We have a lot of work ahead, but you all have been asked because we need influencial people like you on the team, we know you can do this! If you have any questions, let me know. I'll be following up next week to see how everyone is doing. Thank you! Kristi DRAFT - Please personalize and change as desired. Hello All: I wanted to write to you to discuss my participation in the Imagination Fund and the March for Independence. The Imagination Fund benefits all of the members of the National Federation of the Blind. All monies raised in the Imagination Fund go directly to support our chapters, our affiliates, and our NFB Jernigan Institute. The March for Independence is a 5K walk-a-thon event held each year in conjunction with our national convention. The monies raised through the march/walk-a-thon go directly to the Imagination Fund. I am absolutely committed to the March for Independence because I feel very strongly that as a result of the money raised, I am helping to change what it means to be blind in a very big way. We all participate in local outreach efforts which are hugely important to our cause, but by helping to raise money by walking or virtually walking, I believe I am helping in a bigger way. I am giving back just a little time for the opportunity, the security, and the independence that the NFB has helped me to achieve. Partner with me. Register for the march right now. Become a champion for the March for Independence, for our movement. When I was asked, I couldn't say no, I hope you won't either. Thanks in advance for your participation. ____________________________________ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! _Try it now!_ (http://get.live.com/toolbar/overview) = **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) From bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 11 23:32:51 2008 From: bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com (Clarence Huggins) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:32:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Blindvet-talk] FYI Message-ID: <162495.68780.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? ? Subject: FYI ?? VA Opening 31 New Outpatient Clinics December 04, 2008Department of Veterans Affairs World-Class Health Care Brought Closer to More Veterans WASHINGTON ? Veterans will have easier access to world-class health care under a Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) plan to open 31 new outpatient clinics in 16 states.? Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake today announced VA will establish new clinics in Alabama, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Vermont. ?VA is committed to providing world-class health care to the men and women who have served this nation,? Peake said. ?These new clinics will bring VA?s top-notch care closer to the veterans who have earned it.? With 153 hospitals and about 745 community-based clinics, VA operates the largest integrated health care system in the country.? VA?s medical care budget of more than $41 billion this year will provide health care to about 5.8 million people during nearly 600,000 hospitalizations and more than 62 million outpatient visits. ?Community-based medicine is better medicine,? said Dr. Michael Kussman, VA?s Under Secretary for Health. ?It makes preventative care easier for patients, helps health care professionals have closer relationships with their patients and permits easier follow-ups for patients with chronic health problems.? The community-based outpatient clinics, or CBOCs, will become operational by late 2010, with some opening in 2009.? Local VA officials will keep communities and their veterans informed of milestones in the creation of the new CBOCs. VA?s Proposed Sites for New Outpatient Clinics Alabama ? Monroe County (2010) Arkansas ? Faulkner County (2010), Pope County (2010) California ? Lake County (2010), Oakhurst (2010), Susanville (2010), Yuba County (2010) Florida ? Brandon (2010), Clermont (2010) Georgia -- Blairsville (2010) Hawaii ? Leeward (Honolulu, 2010) Illinois ? Carbondale (2009), Harrisburg (2010), Sterling (2010) Iowa -- Decorah (2010) Maryland ? Fort Meade (2010), Montgomery County (2010) Michigan ? Bad Axe (2010), Cadillac (2010), Cheboygan (2010), Grayling (2010) Minnesota ? Southern central border (2010), Southwest metro area (exact locations to be determined, 2010) Mississippi ? Pike County (2010) Missouri ? Excelsior Springs (2009), Sikeston (2009), Sedalia (2010) North Carolina ? Edenton-Elizabeth City (2010), Goldsboro (2010) Pennsylvania ? Cranberry Township (2009) Vermont ? Brattleboro (2010) __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (42) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACE >From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Merry Christmas and a Happy 2009 The Sayers, Dwight, Patty, Austin and Amanda Dwight Sayer President NABV-NFB ____________________________________ Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. _Try it now_ (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) . **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From PresidentNABV at aol.com Sun Dec 14 23:10:25 2008 From: PresidentNABV at aol.com (PresidentNABV at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:10:25 EST Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Fwd: [BattingTheBreeze] Fridays Gloom and doom, for the blind veterans Message-ID: Dwight D. Sayer National President, The National Association of Blind Veterans A Division of the NFB presidentnabv at aol.com president at nabv.org _www.nabv.org_ (http://www.nabv.org/) ____________________________________ From: PresidentNABV To: BattingTheBreeze at yahoogroups.com BCC: jwilson at nfb.org, jpare at nfb.org, officeofthepresident at nfb.org Sent: 12/14/2008 6:09:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: [BattingTheBreeze] Fridays Gloom and doom, for the blind veterans All, After reading all the strings about the supposed gloom and doom, here is the real story. The NFB sat down with the VA and asked to do a pilot with them comparing the training results between the two varying methods. The VA did not respond , so we went to the source and asked for a chance to rehab vets and compare the results against the VA training methods. If the VA methods are truly the best for veterans ,then the results will certainly stand on their own merrit. If after comparing the results the VA methods are not the best for veterans, then I say it is time for a change , because veterans deserve the best that can be found. Do you buy a home because someone told you it was the best or do you compare, shop and use what is commonly called INFORMED CHOICE? It is time that INFORMED CHOICE was given to veterans as the norm rather than the exception. Dwight Dwight D. Sayer National President, The National Association of Blind Veterans A Division of the NFB presidentnabv at aol.com president at nabv.org _www.nabv.org_ (http://www.nabv.org/) In a message dated 12/12/2008 3:06:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tnking18 at earthlink.net writes: Fridays Gloom and doom,for the blind veterans, at least this is my opinion, based on my two decades of working withed the Division of Blind Services in Florida. The National Federation of the Blind has been awarded 4 million dollars to establish a pilot program for training blind veterans. The president signed the bill in September, and we just learned of it today. The moneys shall come out of the Department of defense budget. This may be just the beginning of the out sourcing for rehabilitating lined veterans, currently being done by our BRC facilities. 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If vets deserve the best then they also deserve INFORMED CHOICE as the norm not the exception! Dwight Dwight D. Sayer President, The National Association of Blind Veterans A Division of the NFB Email - presidentnabv at aol.com or president at nabv.org **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) From nfbnj at yahoo.com Sun Dec 14 23:52:15 2008 From: nfbnj at yahoo.com (Joe Ruffalo) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Merry Christmas From President Dwight Sayer -NABV References: Message-ID: <47E395F7E30045948E39496F46E2AAA3@JoeRuffalo> Thanks Have a great Christmas season. Happy holidays. Joe and Judy Ruffalo Keep believing. Keep dreaming. Keep learning Let's work together. Let's make a difference! Joseph J. Ruffalo President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Phone: 973-743-0075 Please visit our State and National Web Sites http://www.nfbnj.org http://www.thruoureyes.org http://www.blindchildren.org http://www.nfb.org Email: nfbnj at yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Merry Christmas From President Dwight Sayer -NABV > IF YOU SEE A FAT MAN ... > > Who's jolly and cute, > > Wearing a beard and > a red flannel suit, > > > And if he is chuckling > and laughing away, > > > While flying around > in a miniature sleigh, > > > With eight tiny reindeer > to pull him along, > > > Then let's face it... > > > Your eggnog's too strong! > > Merry Christmas and > a Happy 2009 > > The Sayers, > > Dwight, Patty, Austin and Amanda > > > Dwight Sayer > > President > > NABV-NFB > > > > ____________________________________ > Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in > one place. _Try it now_ > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > . > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > _______________________________________________ > Blindvet-talk mailing list > Blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindvet-talk_nfbnet.org From bvmontw at cox.net Mon Dec 15 00:14:14 2008 From: bvmontw at cox.net (Bill Montgomery) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:14:14 -0800 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare References: Message-ID: At the least perhaps you can get a program, with a website, mentorship, job/ employment training, starting a business, and a system where a visually impaired veteran, or blinded veteran is able to have a coordinated program that supports his/ her needs, as well as all family members , with a support system that maps out the goals of the program for both the veterans and all who are part of his support network , through the next 20 year period of life, as he/ she loses additional eyesight, mobility, cognitive skills, etc. Go for it, integrate the old veteran with the new veterans, as well as old and new rehabilitation programs. Perhaps VA Blind Rehab, VIST, BROS, and the Departmett of Rehab., Labor, Education, VA Compensated Work Therapy, DoD/ VA Federal Recovery Coordinators, communicate openly,et all. Outstanding, Bravo Zulu, well done, don't listened to the naysayers. Good Luck! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare > Well I knew this day would come. I am being blasted on the > battingthebreeze > list serve because the NFB > has finally won the funds from the government to run a side by side > comparison pilot of blind training methods against the VA. > Ladies and Gentlemen, we as veterans deserve nothing but the best and if > that means we run a pilot program comparing the VA's training Blind vets > program against a NFB training blind bets program , well it is about time > I say. > For years the citizens of the USA have had services provided under the > program of INFORMED CHOICE, but vets have not had that opportunity. If > vets > deserve the best then they also deserve INFORMED CHOICE as the norm not > the > exception! > Dwight > > Dwight D. Sayer > President, > The National Association of Blind Veterans > A Division of the NFB > Email - presidentnabv at aol.com > or president at nabv.org > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW > AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) > _______________________________________________ > Blindvet-talk mailing list > Blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindvet-talk_nfbnet.org > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11331 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11331 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From NABlindVets at aol.com Mon Dec 15 01:32:33 2008 From: NABlindVets at aol.com (NABlindVets at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:32:33 EST Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Correction ! NFB did not receive any money for training! Message-ID: Veterans, Terry King was mistaken in his report to the SBRC Alumni List Serve . I was so surprised by getting beat up over the announcement Terry made that I neglected to check with Baltimore about it's legitimacy . John Pare has stated tonight that the NFB has not received any monies from the Government for Veteran training even though we have tried and still will be fighting for all opportunities to help blind vets whenever possible. Dwight Dwight D. Sayer President, The National Association of Blind Veterans A Division of the NFB Email - presidentnabv at aol.com or president at nabv.org **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) From bvmontw at cox.net Mon Dec 15 01:36:11 2008 From: bvmontw at cox.net (Bill Montgomery) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:36:11 -0800 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare References: Message-ID: <9797EC2589A74B7A880B7E76AEC6F847@bill61703b37b2> Please provide more details, such as the site, qualifications of instructors, curriculum. Where will the training site be, and how big of a campus? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare > Well I knew this day would come. I am being blasted on the > battingthebreeze > list serve because the NFB > has finally won the funds from the government to run a side by side > comparison pilot of blind training methods against the VA. > Ladies and Gentlemen, we as veterans deserve nothing but the best and if > that means we run a pilot program comparing the VA's training Blind vets > program against a NFB training blind bets program , well it is about time > I say. > For years the citizens of the USA have had services provided under the > program of INFORMED CHOICE, but vets have not had that opportunity. If > vets > deserve the best then they also deserve INFORMED CHOICE as the norm not > the > exception! > Dwight > > Dwight D. Sayer > President, > The National Association of Blind Veterans > A Division of the NFB > Email - presidentnabv at aol.com > or president at nabv.org > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW > AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) > _______________________________________________ > Blindvet-talk mailing list > Blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindvet-talk_nfbnet.org > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11331 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11331 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From uscreek63 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 15 03:04:38 2008 From: uscreek63 at yahoo.com (Paul Sidlo) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:04:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare In-Reply-To: <9797EC2589A74B7A880B7E76AEC6F847@bill61703b37b2> Message-ID: <675247.55180.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have been to the blind center in Augusta.? I spent 7 weeks there in 2006.? I found their program to be quite professional.? I have no experience with anything but the VA.? What can you do better? --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Bill Montgomery wrote: From: Bill Montgomery Subject: Re: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare To: "Info and discussion list for blind veterans." Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 8:36 PM Please provide more details, such as the site, qualifications of instructors, curriculum. Where will the training site be, and how big of a campus? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare > Well I knew this day would come. I am being blasted on the battingthebreeze > list serve because the NFB > has finally won the funds from the government to run a side by side > comparison pilot of blind training methods against the VA. > Ladies and Gentlemen, we as veterans deserve nothing but the best and if > that means we run a pilot program comparing the VA's training Blind vets > program against a NFB training blind bets program , well it is about time I say. > For years the citizens of the USA have had services provided under the > program of INFORMED CHOICE, but vets have not had that opportunity. If vets > deserve the best then they also deserve INFORMED CHOICE as the norm not the > exception! > Dwight > > Dwight D. Sayer > President, > The National Association of Blind Veterans > A Division of the NFB > Email - presidentnabv at aol.com > or president at nabv.org > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW > AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) > _______________________________________________ > Blindvet-talk mailing list > Blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindvet-talk_nfbnet.org > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11331 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11331 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ Blindvet-talk mailing list Blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindvet-talk_nfbnet.org From bvmontw at cox.net Mon Dec 15 03:10:23 2008 From: bvmontw at cox.net (Bill Montgomery) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:10:23 -0800 Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare References: Message-ID: <4B699B3A953C40D0B4260C5E8DF6A0D6@bill61703b37b2> Dwight: This article will cause good debate about the merits of such. VA, FBCI, Faith Based and Community Issues program provides up to 50 per cent of purchase costs, in partnership with HUD, for transitional rehabilitation housing, where a patient is staying for a period of 2 years or less. VA, VR&E, 38 CFR, Sub Section 21 and 31 cover the cost of setting up a vocational rehabilitation center for 150 clients per year. Do not give up, competition for VA, BRC, VIST, BROS will be productive over time. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!! Take care, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we dare > Well I knew this day would come. I am being blasted on the > battingthebreeze > list serve because the NFB > has finally won the funds from the government to run a side by side > comparison pilot of blind training methods against the VA. > Ladies and Gentlemen, we as veterans deserve nothing but the best and if > that means we run a pilot program comparing the VA's training Blind vets > program against a NFB training blind bets program , well it is about time > I say. > For years the citizens of the USA have had services provided under the > program of INFORMED CHOICE, but vets have not had that opportunity. If > vets > deserve the best then they also deserve INFORMED CHOICE as the norm not > the > exception! > Dwight > > D. Sayers > President, > The National Association of Blind Veterans > A Division of the NFB > Email - presidentnabv at aol.com > or president at nabv.org > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW > AOL.com.(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019) > _______________________________________________ > Blind-talk mailing list > Blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindvet-talk_nfbnet.org > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11331 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11331 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From NABlindVets at aol.com Tue Dec 16 15:46:40 2008 From: NABlindVets at aol.com (NABlindVets at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:46:40 EST Subject: [Blindvet-talk] NFB- 2009 Writing Contest for Youth and Adults Message-ID: ____________________________________ From: newmanrl at cox.net To: president at nabv.org Subject: NFB- 2009 Writing Contest for Youth and Adults Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:06:05 -0600 Dwight As the president of the National Association of Blind Veterans, a Division of the NFB, would you get this notice out to your members about our 2009 writing contest for youth and adults. I know your division membership would be interested in this opportunity. So could you please post it to whatever medium that you have to get it out to your people? Thank you very much. NFB Writers? Division Writing contests For Both Youth And AdultsThe National Federation of the Blind Writers' Division wishes to announce our annual writing contests. The opening date for submissions in both the contests for youth and for adults is January 1st, with the closing on (Post Marked) April 1st. See all requirements below: Youth Writing ContestThe NFB Writers? Division is hosting a Youth Writing Contest to promote Braille literacy and excellence in creative writing. Entries will be judged on creativity and quality of Braille. We are looking for creative writing, in the form of fiction and poetry. There is no charge for entering. This is a contest for students who use Braille. Entries must Be submitted in hand embossed Braille, either on a slate and stylus or on a Braille writer. No computer Braille entries will be considered. Submissions must be Brailled by the entrant. Elementary students (K-5) may submit contracted Braille, uncontracted Braille, or an acceptable combination of the two. Students in higher grades will be expected to submit stories or poetry in contracted Braille. There are six categories, as follows: Elementary Fiction; Elementary Poetry; Middle School Fiction; Middle School Poetry; High School Fiction; High School Poetry. Elementary is K-5. Middle School is 6-8. High School is 9-12. The contest begins January first, and ends, postmarked date April first. There will be three cash prizes for each of the six categories. First prize per contest is $25. Second prize is $15 and third prize is $5. Submissions for fiction may not exceed one thousand words. Poetry may not exceed twenty lines. Authors may submit multiple entries and all work must be original and unpublished. Each entrant must provide an identical print copy for possible publication. Entries must be accompanied by a cover sheet containing entrant?s information: Name, address, phone, email, title of the entry, school and grade of entrant. Winners will be announced at our division meeting during the July 2009 NFB National convention held in Detroit, Michigan. Send to Fred Wurtzel, 1212 N Foster, Lansing Michigan, 48912. Adult Writing ContestThe NFB Writers? Division?s writing contest of fiction short stories and poetry for adults will be open for submissions starting January 1st, closing Post Marked April 1st. Top prize for each contest is $100, second $50, and third $25. Winners will be announced at our division meeting during the July 2009 NFB National convention held in Detroit, Michigan. Fiction: short stories can be up to 3,000 words and can be of any genre. All work must be original and previously unpublished. If you wish to submit- You are required to send a cover sheet with title of all entries, name, address, phone and email (if available). A second requirement , is please have your documents double spaced and if you are sending it hardcopy, it cannot be handwritten. The cost for submission of a single story is $5.00. You can send either a check or money order made out to the NFB Writers? Division. You have two choices for submission: First is the traditional method of sending hardcopy and check, and if you do so, send it to Tom Stevens address- 1203 S. Fairview Road, Columbia MO 65203. The second method is to email your writing and cover letter to cthls at earthlink.net And for payment for electronic submissions check our web site and see if we have PayPal by then URL http://www.nfb-writers-division.org Or, if you need to snail-mail the check, use Tom?s address in choice one. Poetry: Entrants are invited to submit original poetry of up to 36 lines. If you wish to submit- You are required to send a cover sheet with title of all entries, name, address, phone and email (if available). A second requirement , is please have your documents double spaced and if you are sending it hardcopy, it cannot be handwritten. The cost is $5.00 for up to 3 poems and you can send either a check or money order made out to the NFB Writers? Division. You have two choices for submission: First is the traditional method of sending hardcopy and check, and if you do so, send it to Lori Stayer, 2704 Beach Drive, Merrick NY 11566. The second method is to email your writing and cover letter to LoriStay at aol.com And for payment for electronic submissions check our web site and see if we have PayPal by then URL http://www.nfb-writers-division.org Or, if you need to snail-mail the check, use Lori?s address in choice one. President NFB Writers' Division Robert Leslie Newman Email- newmanrl at cox.net Division Website- Http://www.nfb-writers-division.org ____________________________________ Express yourself with gadgets on Windows Live Spaces _Try it!_ (http://discoverspaces.live.com/?source=hmtag1&loc=us) = **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215195222x1200993641/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=82%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO82) From Hipupe at aol.com Tue Dec 16 20:06:39 2008 From: Hipupe at aol.com (Hipupe at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:06:39 EST Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare Message-ID: In a message dated 12/14/2008 10:05:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, uscreek63 at yahoo.com writes: I have been to the blind center in Augusta. I spent 7 weeks there in 2006. I found their program to be quite professional. I have no experience with anything but the VA. What can you do better? --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Bill Montgomery wrote: From: Bill Montgomery Subject: Re: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare To: "Info and discussion list for blind veterans." Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 8:36 PM Please provide more details, such as the site, qualifications of instructors, curriculum. Where will the training site be, and how big of a campus? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Wow ! President getting blasted because we darecompare > Well I knew this day would come. I am being blasted on the battingthebreeze > list serve because the NFB > has finally won the funds from the government to run a side by side > comparison pilot of blind training methods against the VA. > Ladies and Gentlemen, we as veterans deserve nothing but the best and if > that means we run a pilot program comparing the VA's training Blind vets > program against a NFB training blind bets program , well it is about time I say. > For years the citizens of the USA have had services provided under the > program of INFORMED CHOICE, but vets have not had that opportunity. If vets > deserve the best then they also deserve INFORMED CHOICE as the norm not the > exception! > Dwight > > Dwight D. Sayer > President, > The National Association of Blind Veterans > A Division of the NFB > Email - presidentnabv at aol.com > or president at nabv.org > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. 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