[blparent] Noisy shoes

Tammy, Paul and Colyn tcl189 at rogers.com
Sat Nov 15 05:19:48 UTC 2008 

Hi,
No, you're right, not everyone's a pro at first tap, but when a person is 
trying to learn how to use a cane properly they at least have the ability to 
know what the purpose of the cane is so they can at least try to use it 
effectively.  What's the point of trying to teach him something he doesn't 
seem to understand?  It will just frustrate him and his mother, and cause 
him to not want to use the cane at all, and that's far from what anybody 
involved wants.

Tammy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes


> We all have to start somewhere.  Not everyone is a pro at first tap. 
> Smile. When I went to the orientation center for the blind when I was 29, 
> it was hard learning to trust it.  I always felt better holding on to 
> someone.  All the instructors would show us how to hold it, where our 
> hands should be and then they would turn us out to the wild.  Some people 
> were so frightened they dropped out and left the center.  Imagine how 
> scarry it is for a child to all of a sudden not be able to hold on to mom 
> anymore and not be able to see. If indeed, Barbara is just teaching by 
> letting him hold the cane it is okay, but just for walking and getting 
> around it is not a good idea for either of them. V
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>
>
>> Hi,
>> If he doesn't know or has no concept of how and why to use a cane then he
>> shouldn't be  using one.  As for holding on to your cane, there has to be 
>> a
>> better more safe way to travel with your children.  Not only are you 
>> putting
>> yourself in danger when you let your child hold on to your cane,  but 
>> your
>> children are also in danger if you don't use safe methods of traveling.
>>
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>
>>
>>> And that is a problem we do have.  He refuses to use it correctly so 
>>> it's
>>> a good thing I know our block and other places where I have him do that.
>>> Once in a while I do run into things or trip, but he has to learn 
>>> somehow.
>>> Got any ideas how to get him to hold his own cane.  We've tried 
>>> fastening
>>> it in his hand but he hates that.  The teaching cane is the best method
>>> I've found so far.  I'm not bragging when I say I'm a very good traveler
>>> who is very aware of my surroundings because I'm not brave at all when 
>>> it
>>> comes to new situations.
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Dena Wainwright" <autumnrose21 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:12 AM
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>
>>>> having a child hold onto your cane doesn't seem especially effective or
>>>> safe to me... how can you get accurate info with someone holding it?
>>>> also, what if he lets go?
>>>> Dena
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, instead of holding your cane, you should have your child
>>>>> hold onto your pants or belt loop. V
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:55 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The leashes we have are just harnesses with the leash attached.  They
>>>>>> fasten
>>>>>> with velcro in the back.  They're kind of tricky to figure out 
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> have to get the child's arms through in the right place.  We don't 
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> often but if I take the twins alone I take one on a leash and the 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> holds onto my cane.  I've even tied the one's cane to his leash so we
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> have to spend forever looking for it if he drops it or throws it. 
>>>>>> Now
>>>>>> looking for cane tips?  That's a different story.  So far I've found
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> when the pop off.
>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:05 PM
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only had the opportunity to use it once and it was a real leash 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> belonged to our husky.  Gab thought it great fun to wear Shelby's
>>>>>>> leash as
>>>>>>> we made our way through a very busy airport in Las Angelas.  I don't
>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>> what others think as long as my child is safe. V
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've gotten comments on the leash I use for my daughter, and 
>>>>>>>> they've
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> been positive.
>>>>>>>> Really though, I don't much care, because as parents, it is our job
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> keep our kids safe, while still providing them and ourselves
>>>>>>>> oppertunities to get out and about.
>>>>>>>> Your husband doesn't have to like the leash, but he does need to 
>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>> his child safe. Liking the leash is not a requirement for *using* a
>>>>>>>> leash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Melissa Ann Riccobono
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:30 AM
>>>>>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Shannon,
>>>>>>>> I wasn't thrilled about the squeaking shoes either, so I put bells 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> son's shoes.  They are noisy, but at least it's a pleasant noise to
>>>>>>>> listen to.  As for leashes, at least in the US, they sell really 
>>>>>>>> cute
>>>>>>>> ones that are a small backpack that looks like an animal (we have a
>>>>>>>> monkey) and the tail of the animal is the leash.  Austin still 
>>>>>>>> loves
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> (not all kids do, of
>>>>>>>> course) and has even named it.  Maybe I get stares when I'm out in
>>>>>>>> public, but at least I know Austin is safe.  And, I've received a 
>>>>>>>> ton
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> comments about how cute the leash is, and even what a good idea it
>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>> Melissa
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