[blparent] Noisy shoes

Thu Nov 20 21:49:53 UTC 2008

The purpose would be to guide him with a cane handle instead of my hand.  We 
had teacher conferences the other day and found out that Jesse doesn't 
caning perfectly for the O&M person.  It's just proves that he can do it but 
just doesn't want to.
Barbara

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From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:30 PM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

> Hi,
> What's the point of using a cane at all if one end is in your hand and the 
> other end is in his hand?  How effective would that be since the purpose 
> of a cane is to feel what's  on the ground?
>
> Tammy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>
>
>> He has one his own size if he's going to use it on the ground.  A broken 
>> one would make the distance between us much shorter if the other end is 
>> in my hand instead of on the ground.
>> Barbara
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:31 PM
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>
>>> And, why does it need to be a broken one?  Get him one his own size, for 
>>> crying out loud.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at worldnet.att.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barbara,
>>>>
>>>> Could you try carrying a cane for yourself with one hand and holding a 
>>>> cane with your son using the other hand?  Is that at all feasible?
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Only light perception and color.  They have no choice but to learn 
>>>>> cane use or always hold someone's hand.  If he'd hold his cane, I 
>>>>> could hold his other hand for security and put the leash for the other 
>>>>> on my cane hand or through a belt loop or something.  I'd figure it 
>>>>> out.
>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>
>>>>>> Barbara, they know enough to make that choice of using a cane or not. 
>>>>>> thats why I thought they could show you, thus making a good choice. 
>>>>>> What is there acuity right now. V
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a modeling technique to teach him.  Both the boys could use 
>>>>>>> canes if
>>>>>>> they chose to.  Right now they just don't see the need for them. 
>>>>>>> But in
>>>>>>> order to be somewhat independent travelers they cannot depend on a 
>>>>>>> hand or
>>>>>>> arm in their hand.  I want them to be active movers.
>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:15 PM
>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Who told you to teach him to use a cane that way?  It doesn't seem 
>>>>>>>> like it
>>>>>>>> would be very effective, especially when he won't hold on to his 
>>>>>>>> own cane.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:14 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He holds onto my cane as a teaching cane because he won't hold on 
>>>>>>>>> to his
>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:30 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Personally, instead of holding your cane, you should have your 
>>>>>>>>>> child
>>>>>>>>>> hold onto your pants or belt loop. V
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:55 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The leashes we have are just harnesses with the leash attached. 
>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>> fasten
>>>>>>>>>>> with velcro in the back.  They're kind of tricky to figure out 
>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>> have to get the child's arms through in the right place.  We 
>>>>>>>>>>> don't use
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> often but if I take the twins alone I take one on a leash and 
>>>>>>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>>>> holds onto my cane.  I've even tied the one's cane to his leash 
>>>>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have to spend forever looking for it if he drops it or throws 
>>>>>>>>>>> it. Now
>>>>>>>>>>> looking for cane tips?  That's a different story.  So far I've 
>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> when the pop off.
>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I only had the opportunity to use it once and it was a real 
>>>>>>>>>>>> leash that
>>>>>>>>>>>> belonged to our husky.  Gab thought it great fun to wear 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shelby's
>>>>>>>>>>>> leash as
>>>>>>>>>>>> we made our way through a very busy airport in Las Angelas.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>> what others think as long as my child is safe. V
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've gotten comments on the leash I use for my daughter, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been positive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really though, I don't much care, because as parents, it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our job
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep our kids safe, while still providing them and ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> oppertunities to get out and about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your husband doesn't have to like the leash, but he does need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his child safe. Liking the leash is not a requirement for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *using* a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> leash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Melissa Ann Riccobono
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:30 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shannon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't thrilled about the squeaking shoes either, so I put 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bells on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> son's shoes.  They are noisy, but at least it's a pleasant 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to.  As for leashes, at least in the US, they sell 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really cute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones that are a small backpack that looks like an animal (we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> monkey) and the tail of the animal is the leash.  Austin still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (not all kids do, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> course) and has even named it.  Maybe I get stares when I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> public, but at least I know Austin is safe.  And, I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> received a ton
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments about how cute the leash is, and even what a good 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melissa
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