[blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

trishs slosser at metrocast.net
Fri Oct 31 00:28:56 UTC 2008 

Violent scenarios aside, manners are manners.  I assume we all 
know what to teach, and regardless of personality, affluence, 
culture, traumatic experiences, we need to be tought, and we need 
to learn how to teach them to our future leaders.  It's our 
responsibility as parents to do so, or others will.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com
>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:34:56 -0400
>Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

>Hi,
>That's all well and good but what's right to one parent may not 
be right to
>another, and what gives us the right to judge either parent?

>tammy
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!


>> Okay, I'd like to sit those parents in a time-out until they can 
make
>> right choices about raising polite children.
>> Barbara


>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:30 AM
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

>>> I still say the use of violent metaphors is a problem given the 
subject
>>> matter.
>>> We want to teach respect, but we use words that imply that it is 
okay to
>>> hurt another human being.
>>> Any wonder why kids aren't "getting it?"


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Dena Wainwright
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:05 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

>>> I have to agree.  I see parents in public all the time that I 
just want
>>> to smack, but unless their child is doing something that impacts 
me, my
>>> baby, or my dog, I just bite my tongue.  I will say something in 
the
>>> above instances, though.  Like when kids are barking at my dog, 
chasing
>>> my dog, trying to hit my dog with toys, etc.  I'll do the same 
if
>>> anyone's kid is bugging Elise in similar ways.
>>> Dena


>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Amber Boggs" <amberboggs at socal.rr.com
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!


>>>>I agree with you on one point.  If a child is being disruptive at 
an
>>> event
>>>>the parents should try and keep them quiet.  On the other points 
I
>>> totally
>>>>have to disagree with you on.  If a parent allows there children 
to run
>>>>threw a store witch by the way is a huge peeve of mine, then that 
is
>>> there
>>>>rite and who is it for us to tell them to control there children.  
We
>>> gripe
>>>>as blind parents because people are always trying to tell us how 
do do
>>>>things, thinking we cant parent, and so on, but then we will turn
>>> around
>>>>and boss parents around thus doing the same thing that we look 
down on
>>> when
>>>>it is done to us.  How would you feel if you had your child on a 
leash
>>> in
>>>>order to give him freedom but also keeping him safe as a blind 
parent
>>> and
>>>>someone came up to you telling you to get your child off a leash 
that
>>> he
>>>>was not a dog?  I realize that the situations are not exactly 
alike,
>>> but in
>>>>principle one parent telling another how to raise there kids is 
exactly

>>>>alike.  I personally can not stand parents allowing kids to run 
in
>>> stores,
>>>>scream out of control in restaurants, but It is not my place to 
tell
>>> them
>>>>how to raise there kids.  And besides do we think that by us 
telling
>>> them to
>>>>make there kids stop running around that from now on they will be 
good
>>>>parents and follow our lead? I think not.
>>>> JOB Sorry if this sounds harsh, its not meant to be so, but its 
a
>>> peeve of
>>>> mine to have people tell me what to do.  LOL
>>>> Amber
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: trishs
>>>>  To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:11 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!


>>>>  Last year at my girl's Christmas concert I sat across the table
>>>>  from a young woman and man with a little boy two-years-old.
>>>>  Micro man wasn't willing to sit quietly, super-parents weren't
>>>>  willing to take him to the provided quiet room, and Trish 
almost
>>>>  got herself beat up because I couldn't keep my mouth shut.  I
>>>>  complained to them about their noise and I was told "maybe you
>>>>  should mind your own business, this is a family concert."  I 
said
>>>>  I was aware of that, but I couldn't hear my family.  "Your 
little
>>>>  man may be the center of your universe, but he is not the 
center
>>>>  of mine, and he's disruptive, and you're inconsiderate."  They
>>>>  went into the office and complained about me.  Nothing 
happened,
>>>>  but my mom couldn't get me out of there fast enough.
>>>>  Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but, if you're in
>>>>  public, the grocery store, restaurant, school event, every 
thing
>>>>  you do there is public.  If I find your children running around
>>>>  in the store I'm going to say something to you.
>>>>  It's not as though I'm barging into your living room telling 
you
>>>>  how to raise your family.

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