[blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant

Fri Jul 3 03:26:02 UTC 2009

Hi Elizabeth,
Yes you are right, it is not a laughing matter especially for the 3 year old
who was circumcised. I'm no doctor, but some topical antibiotic and 20
minute soaks in Epson salts and a little patience  might have resolved the
infection just as successfully. Doctors prescribe antibiotics for other
types of infections, so why shouldn't antibiotics work just as well on the
foreskin infection?  
All this talk reminds me of a distraught mom who's infant was circumcised
and it had gotten infected. I also know two adult men who were prescribed
circumcision to cure a tight foreskin and an infection. I can't tell you how
hard it was to make the decision to not circumcise  when both men were
urging me to go ahead and save my babies from future pain by circumcising at
birth. My gut reaction was that if animals and humans were born with
foreskins there must be a way to successfully survive or many species would
have died out long ago.

Skinning alive is one of the worst pains a human can suffer. I know because
I was treated for burns over 80% of my body as a result of the skin damage I
experienced from Stevens Johnson's syndrome.  Removing my skin saved me from
severe disfiguring scars, so it was a worthwhile procedure to under go;
however, it was  the most amazing pain I have ever known... 
So, I guess I have a personal reason for not wanting to put my sons through
that kind of pain.
Eileen

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:06 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant

I never suggested cutting off the peniss...I am suggesting that unless a 
child who is potty trained can pull back the foreskin on his own, and clean 
himself propperly,there is more likely to be infection.  Laugh all you wish,

but this did happen to a friend of mine, and then they had to find out 
whether or not their insurance would pay for a circumcision in a medical 
emergency.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant

> Ilene, did someone say they should cut something off? V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Eileen Levin
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:51 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>
> Sorry I'm sitting here laughing my self sick.
> My 6 year old had a horrible nose infection that took months of anti 
> biotic
> ointment to get rid of. No doctor ever suggested we cut off his nose to 
> cure
> the problem. Keeping my fingers crossed because you never know what kids
> will catcdh next. So far penis problems haven't been one of them. We swim
> and they take long baths fairly often so maybe thos soaks have been saving
> me from a world of trouble... shrug
> My sympathy goes out to any parent struggling with a stubborn infection. 
> It
> seems like once those bugs dig in they don't like to give up residence
> without a fight!
> Eileen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:04 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>
> I'm surprised they haven't ben infected yet.  I don't know  that they'd
> necessarily be able to do that unless they'd been taught how, and that
> they'd feel comfortable with it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eileen Levin" <eileenlevin at comcast.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>
>
>> Not sure how publicly acceptable it is but I hold the used wipes about 3
>> inches away  from my nose and sniff. If they are coming up stinky I know
>> my
>> job is not done. I've been trying the touching method too but every thing
>> is
>> so wet and the wipes I use do leave bits of lint behind so I find the
>> combinationworks best. And I don't try to skimp on wipes.
>> When it comes to the penis I lay the wipe across my hand and wrap the 
>> wipe
>> around it in the same way I would clean a spoon or fork.
>> Usually the poop stays at the back of the scrotum so if I can get the
>> worst
>> of it cleared away then there is less chance of accidentally pushing
>> something nasty up into the penis opening.
>> I've never pulled the foreskin back in either my 6 year old or my two 
>> year
>> old because it is attached in infants and young boys. Pulling the 
>> foreskin
>> back is akin to trying to clean inside the vagina.  Not recommended. My
>> midwife tells me that boys naturally learned to keep themselves clean as
>> they reach sexual maturity in the same way that girls have to learn to
>> keep
>> themselves clean.
>>
>> I'm a big fan of letting the kids soak in the tub if I want to make sure
>> all
>> the ooies and gooies come off.  Though my youngest is so chubby that I
>> find
>> something akin to belly button lint building up in his arm pits if I 
>> don't
>> pay attention. LOL
>> Eileen
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Leanne Merren
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:54 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>>
>> Sighted people have to touch the baby to properly clean him too.  It's
>> much
>> better to make sure he's clean than to leave stuff on him and cause rash
>> and
>>
>> other skin problems.  I had the same thoughts when my first child was
>> born,
>> but since I know I'm not doing anything inappropriate, and in fact doing
>> what is best for the baby, I do what I have to do.  When I change other
>> people's children in the church nursery (all of the changing stations are
>> out in the open as they are required to be by our church's safety policy)
>> I
>> don't touch a lot, just around the buttocks and inner thighs without
>> touching the private areas, other than with the wipes.  I think that's
>> when
>> you have to be more careful, and you could do the same when out in public
>> with your child if you are nervous about people watching.  I just love
>> being
>>
>> the source of entertainment for everyone when I'm out with my children. 
>> I
>> should get paid for that. haha
>> Leanne
>> "Faith is being sure of what we hope for
>> and certain of what we do not see."
>> Hebrews 11:1
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Amber Boggs" <amberboggs at socal.rr.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>>
>>
>>> Amin to this! The thaught has never crossed me mind, and if anyone even
>>> thaught to say such a thing to me, I would be jumping all over them so
>>> fast they would never no what hit them!
>>> What is this world coming to?
>>> Amber Boggs
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Pipi" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>>>
>>>
>>>> Elizabeth,
>>>> I don't want to step on any toes here, but feel I need to speak up.
>>>> Society can go to h***  if they can't tell the differnece between a
>>>> blind
>>
>>>> person making sure their child is clean and someone molesting their
>>>> child. You have to do what you have to do to take care of your kid. 
>>>> Even
>>>> if that is being more hands on than a sighted person would be. Please
>>>> don't let the fear of what others think stop you from doing things such
>>>> as swimming or savaing wipes.
>>>> Hope I'm making sense here.
>>>> Pipi
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I may do that with Joshua when he gets older, but I guess I'm afraid of
>>>>>some thinking it is inappropriate, given society's standards on things
>>>>>like that. Do you know i'm afraid to touch my son to see if he is
>>>>>thoroughly clean, just in case someone sees and thinks I'm molesting
>>>>>him?
>>
>>>>>I just wipe with wipes a lot. I tokd my husband he's in charge of poty
>>>>>training him.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] bathing an infant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to hear your little one is doing well.  As for bathing, my 
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> gy hates the tub and has from day one.  I tried getting of those wire
>>>>>> things with the towelling on it that holds him up on a slant and that
>>>>>> worked okay for a bit, but did absolutely nothing for my back because
>>>>>> I
>>
>>>>>> was continuously bending over.  So finally I just decided to  take
>>>>>> baths with him and he loves it, as do I.  It's a good time to play 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> let him float and kick and just be close and play together.  You 
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> want to try this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Shannan Zinck" <shannanzinck at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 2:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [Bulk] [blparent] bathing an infant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok so did great with new born bathing since I had a tub that  was
>>>>>>> contoured
>>>>>>> but, my dilema here is my son grew really fast. His birth mom is 
>>>>>>> tall
>>>>>>> and he
>>>>>>> apparently inherrited her height. He is too big for the baby tub but
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> sit by him self yet. I tried a bath ring and do not feel confident 
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> with it. He is still at a stage where bath time is relax time and
>>>>>>> likes to
>>>>>>> lay down still. If I sit him in the sink he hates it. Any idea on
>>>>>>> what
>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> could possibly use for him. He is only 4 months but, is off the
>>>>>>> charts
>>
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> all categories of physical growth. thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Shannan Zinck
>>>>>>> Survival is letting GOD take over!!!
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