[blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting

Wed Jun 3 19:05:07 UTC 2009

I don’t think she could know.  She was just so in a tizzy over the dog who knows what she would have done.  You know this could be an example of how you never no who lives next-door.

Kate

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>
> Hi,
> 
> Wow, what a horrible woman!  Putting tacks down for a dog to step on?  She 
> was very lucky she didn't cause harm to more than just the dog.  How did she 
> know kids wouldn't be walking there too and possiblly in bare feet?
> 
> Tammy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:45 AM
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
> 
> 
> >
> > I have a suggestion.
> >
> > When this woman threatens to call DCF on you write it down.  Write the 
> > date, the time if you can, what was said by her and you, and have it close 
> > at hand.  I don’t know for certain but this may be considered harassment. 
> > I had an incident here that was similar and a friend had a situation that 
> > sound sort of the same.  I will state them so you can see what I am 
> > saying.
> >
> > My situation.
> > I took my older daughter out back of our patio on a Friday night to help 
> > set up a moon garden.  A moon garden is a garden with plants that bloom at 
> > night so I was having her help me prep the soil and we made markers to 
> > identify the plants.  On the cards we had included what the plant was and 
> > some of the ways it could be used.  We have a woman above us who is 
> > extremely religious and has mental issues.  She called down from her patio 
> > how I was keeping my daughter up too late, it was nine, and that we were 
> > being loud.  First we were talking at a normal volume and the noise 
> > ordinance doesn’t kick in till ten.  I told her we would talk quieter and 
> > apologized if we disturbed her.  She mumbled something I couldn’t hear and 
> > went inside so I finished with my daughter and we picked up our things and 
> > went inside to go to bed.
> > The next morning I was contacted by a woman who handles disputes on the 
> > property.  She informed me that the woman upstairs complained that I had 
> > my child running by the lake all night and that I was using public 
> > property for religious purposes.  I informed the caller that first off I 
> > can use public property for religious purposes its protected under the 
> > first amendment, and that I wanted an example of what this woman felt made 
> > what I was doing a religious practice.  I also stated that we were inside 
> > at nine forty five, and the noise ordinance set by our county started at 
> > ten.  I then asked her if she would like to have a written copy of what 
> > happened because I wrote it down.  She said no and then stated that it 
> > must have been a misunderstanding.  We hung up and I added the call to my 
> > file just in case more came of it.  Nothing did and that woman hasn’t said 
> > a word to me since.
> >
> > My friend’s situation.
> > A friend of mine got a guide dog and returned home to his condo that 
> > normally didn’t allow dogs.  One of the other tenants saw the dog and 
> > flipped out.  She had this tantrum about the dog being there and wouldn’t 
> > let him explain what the dog was for.  She called the condo board and he 
> > met with them and explained what the dog was and all was fine.  This woman 
> > was relentless, she would tell him every time she saw him that the dog 
> > shouldn’t be there and he wrote each event in a file.  One day he walked 
> > his dog and the dog wouldn’t stop picking his feet up.  So he felt around 
> > the grass and found tacks.  Now this woman would follow him and see where 
> > he took the dog to walk so he did the only thing he could.  He called the 
> > police and filed a report.  He had an officer come out and he showed him 
> > the file of what the woman said to him and told about her following him 
> > when he walked the dog and about the tacks.  The officer informed my 
> > friend that even though there was no proof about the tacks he could file a 
> > report do to harassment.  This report would place this person as suspect 
> > if any thing happened to his dog or him.  Two weeks later she was having a 
> > fit and when he opened his door to see what was going on she walked back 
> > in her unit slamming the door. He found out later from some one that she 
> > had received a letter from the board informing her that a report had been 
> > filed with the police for harassment and if her behavior continued she 
> > would be breaching guidelines for the complex and her unit could be 
> > seized.
> >
> > So write down every thing even if it sounds like nothing.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > Kate
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
> >>
> >> My husband and I were talking about this last night. He had a couple
> >> suggestions and thoughts which I'll pass on.
> >> 1. This woman threatened you which is probably illegal. (note, he is not
> >> a lawyer).
> >> 2. Her threats are keeping you from using a service provided by the
> >> condo a service that you are expected to pay for.
> >> 3. Consider talking to the condo board (which probably won't work as
> >> those boards seem to do nothing but collect money) and/or a lawyer.
> >> 4. The woman made a threat and referred to what is generally a protected
> >> class, i.e. disability, race sexual orientation, religion) and that type
> >> of speech (might even be considered hate speech) is generally taken a
> >> lot more seriously then "Your car is parked in the wrong place" type of
> >> neighbor contact. Husband suggests you talk with a lawyer or even a
> >> police officer if you know one and basically let her know her comments
> >> were out of line.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Tammy, Paul and Colyn
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:39 AM
> >> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Tell her go ahead and call them if she wants.  You're not doing anything
> >> wrong by taking Sara anywhere you think she's safe, and she's just a
> >> nosey busybody who should mind her own business.
> >>
> >> Tammy
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:49 PM
> >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
> >>
> >>
> >> > Sarah's father can see, and we've had one round with Social Services
> >> > already.  Then the other day, someone I know saw me carrying a baby
> >> > flotation device into my house from the trunk of the car.  It's an
> >> inner
> >> > tube with a seat built in for the baby's legs.  Anyway, the person
> >> said
> >> > that of course, I would only take the baby in the pool if there was a
> >> > sighted person to watch.  There's a pool for the condos where I live.
> >> I
> >> > said not necessarily, because if I were right there, with my hands on
> >> the
> >> > baby the whole time, I would be satisfied with that.  She said she
> >> would
> >> > call Social Services if she ever saw me taking the baby in the pool by
> >>
> >> > myself--which means, I guess, that I'll only go when there's a sighted
> >>
> >> > person to watch.  I don't want those people knocking at my door again.
> >> >
> >> > Jo Elizabeth
> >> >
> >> > "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
> >> changed
> >> > until it is faced."--James Baldwin
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
> >> > To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:46 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>I don't think any of us are excluded per sea, but putting out these
> >> >> stats with no other data is nothing more then fear mongering in my
> >> >> oppinion. What value is to be gained in that?
> >> >
> >> >
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