[blparent] Potty training take II
Eva
eadams15 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 03:18:24 UTC 2009
Eileen have you tried to explain to him that he can't go to school if he
doesn't go potty in the toilet like a big boy? Is the preschool one of the
ones that he can't go until he is potty trained?
Eva
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eileen Levin" <eileenlevin at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training take II
> I'm so frustrated with potty training right now! preschool starts on
> Wednesday for my little guy. He just turned three August 31st and he
> desperately wants to go to school. I'm quite sure he is ready for school
> but
> he yells very loudly "I won go cool. NO POTTY!"
> On Saturday I put away all pull ups and diapers and miracles of miracles
> he
> went potty 4 times even pooped and not single accident day or night. The
> next day he had 8 accidents despite my best efforts to bribe him to "try
> and
> go potty." Today I kept bribing him to "try to go potty" but he still had
> 3
> accidents even after just finishing a successful try. He has no
> inclination
> to tell me anything about his bodily sensations so I have to ask him which
> makes him cry and scream "NO POTTY!"
>
> I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. He really wants to go to school and
> I
> really want him to be able to participate in the low cost program that he
> won a slot in this year. There's no guarantee we can afford to send him
> to
> a private school next year what with all the costs of replacing our
> furnace
> this fall.
>
> I'm hoping the teacher will fall in love with him. Maybe, cut him some
> slack
> on the potty training.
> I keep telling my husband we have to go no diapers for a week but what do
> I
> do if he still isn't letting us know when he has to go? At least this
> time
> around he seems to know to stand still when he leaks so I haven't had to
> clean up a trail of puddles from one end of the house to the other.
> Eileen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Veronica Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:19 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training and eating by herself.
>
> Smile, don't give up. Gab had no interest until she turned 3 and then
> whatm
> it all fell into place. V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Eileen Levin
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training and eating by herself.
>
> Oh boy how do you get your kid all excited when he screams no and throws
> the
> under wear across the room? I spent a month training my son and he did
> quite
> well but the more freedom he had the more accidents he made. My husband is
> home during the day so forget consistency my husband won't follow him
> around
> asking if he has to pee or poop. It all ended when my washing machine
> broke
> and he was having so many accidents I couldn't manage potty training
> without
> it.
> My baby will be 3 August 31.
>
> I worked with my first son for a year and then when he was 3 and a half he
> just stopped having accidents. But the second child isn't interested in
> any
> of it. I'm really hoping preschool will get him interested in the potty.
> Eileen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jessica Lucken
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:07 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training and eating by herself.
>
> I did the three day method with my daughter when she was 2.5 years old and
> though it was some of the most stressful days for me, I would do it again
> with a second child. Basically, you get them all excited for the week
> before you actually do the potty training. You take them to the store
> with
> you to pick out underwear and you tell them up until the day, that you are
> going to throw away their diapers because they are now a big kid and don't
> need them. Then, that morning, you really have to put away all of the
> diapers and mean it. Be prepared for lots of accidents. Basically, give
> them sugar free juice, water or milk in a sippy cup as much as they drink.
> If you can, confine yourself and the child into an area of the house that
> has tile floors, though I didn't because most of my house is carpet.
> Either
> keep the potty chair in the room with you or be close to the bathroom.
> Ask
> them every two minutes if they have to go potty and if they say no, make
> them try every 20 minutes. Oh and when you get rid of the diapers, put on
> the new underwear that you bought them with no pants and a short shirt.
> They need to wear underwear so they feel it soak through them and run down
> their legs. Every time they pee on the potty, even if they sstart to go
> and
> you catch them, if even just a little goes in the potty, give them a small
> treat, I used M and M's but whatever, as long as it is something novle to
> them and also something that is small.
>
> I have very little vision, so I literally let my daughter watch tons of TV
> and followed her around and made sure she didn't go in the corners of the
> livingroom. She had tons of accidents. By day three, in the morning, she
> was peeing and pooping on the potty and I was able to send her to school
> with no diapers or pull-ups. They were scheptical that she'd need a
> diaper
> at nap time, but she had no accidents.
>
> She wet the bed at night for about a week and I put a pull-up on her just
> at
> bedtime, but she was really completely day trained with just a few
> accidents
> by the end of the first week.
>
> It takes concentration, discipline and a willingness to be stuck at home
> for
> three days, but I did it all without the help of my sighted husband and I
> would never do it any other way, because it went so quick. There is a PDF
> book that you can download at easypottytraining.com for like $15 or I can
> send to you if you are interested.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jennifer Massey
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] Potty training and eating by herself.
>
> take her to the bathroom everytime you go and put in a little potty chair
> just for her to sit on while you are on your "big potty" then she can be
> on
> the little one and will eventually get the hang of it.
>
> Jennifer
>
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> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:54 PM
> Subject: [blparent] Potty training and eating by herself.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>>
>> I was just wondering if anyone had any tips on potty training. My
>> daughter
>
>> is kind of big now and I don't think the communication is going well when
>> I am trying to teach her to potty train. If anyone has any tips I would
>> greatly appreciate it. And Any tips for getting her to eat on her own.
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:56:20 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
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>> It's okay if she just plays with the spoon. Give her a little cereal and
>> let her get the feel of what it is. It's about time to start with the
>> cereal. Just put a little in her mouth and she'll get the jest of it. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Anjelina
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:05 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We had a
>> half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively breastfeeding
>> because she's not at all liking when I touch her face. She's hit the
>> spoon
>> out of my hand a few times and just wants to play with her cereal and
>> fruit.
>> She's a growing happy girl.
>> A&K
>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up is
>> up
>> to you."
>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:58:12 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] double strollers?
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>> This is just my opinion, since I have never used one, but it seems that
>> one
>> in front of the other would be much easier to handle. Side by side would
>> be
>> too wide and thus not easy to control. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Amber Boggs
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:29 PM
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>> Subject: [blparent] double strollers?
>>
>> Hi all, you must have known this question would come. LOL has anyone any
>> experience
>> with double strollers? I am looking for one that will pull as easy as my
>> peg
>>
>> prego.
>> Any thaughts? It seams as if they do not make any with ravercable handels
>> or
>>
>> swiveling
>> weals. Or am I missing one? I was just looking at a colcraft online, and
>> liked that
>> the seets can be moved around to have the kids face different ways. But I
>> wonder
>> how this would be for pulling. Also did you find the side by sides were
>> harder to
>> use then the frun to backs? Again any help would be grate.
>> Thanks
>> Amber Boggs
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:00:14 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
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>> 4 months or 6, it just depends on the baby. It all depends on your
>> doctor,
>> my pediatritian said 5. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:39 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing at
>>
>>> this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture, you
>>> might
>>
>>> try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her put them
>>> in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a little with
>>> cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We had
>>>> a
>>
>>>> half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>> breastfeeding
>>
>>>> because she's not at all liking when I touch her face. She's hit the
>>>> spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play with her cereal
>>>> and fruit.
>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>> A&K
>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up is
>>>> up to you."
>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:03:47 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] school
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>> The challenges weren't as great or frustrating as I imagined they would
>> be.
>> The teachers were super and willing to work with me. They sent a lot of
>> the
>> class assignments to me via the computer and I have spent countless hours
>> helping in the classrooms. First thing is to make friends with the
>> teacher.
>> V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Anjelina
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:01 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [blparent] school
>>
>> Wow, summer has flown by so fast!
>> Just curious: What challenges have you faced since Gab started school?
>> How
>> have you helped her with homework?
>> I know I have years down the road, but before becoming a parent it's
>> something I never thought about.
>> A&K
>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up is
>> up
>> to you."
>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:11 PM
>> Subject: [blparent] school
>>
>>
>>> School is getting ready to start here. We went on Wednesday to meet
>>> gab's
>>> new teacher. She is the same teacher Gab had in Kindergarten. I love
>>> her,
>>> so life should be good this year and she is already broken in. Gab
>>> starts
>>> on August 19. V
>>>
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:27:37 -0700
>> From: "Amber Boggs" <amberboggs at socal.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
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>> I never gave searial to sean and he has no problems with solids.
>> Amber Boggs
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> There's some debate about when to start rice cereal, but any time
>>> between
>>> four and six months is usually fine. Much later than six months, and
>>> there's some evidence to suggest babies won't like the texture of solid
>>> foods.
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing
>>>>> at this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture,
>>>>> you
>>>>> might try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her
>>>>> put them in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a
>>>>> little
>>>>> with cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>>> changed
>>>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> a half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>>>> breastfeeding because she's not at all liking when I touch her face.
>>>>>> She's hit the spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play
>>>>>> with her cereal and fruit.
>>>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>>>> A&K
>>>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> up to you."
>>>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:43:43 -0400
>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <156E5B0128A547039337974F02BD2AC9 at D9P3ZND1>
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>>
>> I'm not going to worry about solids so much. She's still nursing and her
>> doc
>> didn't seem to concerned about her weight gain. I've heard from many
>> other
>> parents and read articles that say solids or baby food in the first year
>> is
>> mostly for exploration not so much for the nutrients. She'll get the hang
>> of
>> it soon enough.
>>
>> A&K
>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up is
>> up
>> to you."
>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>>4 months or 6, it just depends on the baby. It all depends on your
>>>doctor,
>>> my pediatritian said 5. V
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:39 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing
>>>> at
>>>
>>>> this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture, you
>>>> might
>>>
>>>> try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her put
>>>> them
>>>> in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a little with
>>>> cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>> changed
>>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We
>>>>> had
>>>>> a
>>>
>>>>> half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>>> breastfeeding
>>>
>>>>> because she's not at all liking when I touch her face. She's hit the
>>>>> spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play with her
>>>>> cereal
>>>>> and fruit.
>>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>>> A&K
>>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
>>>>> is
>>>>> up to you."
>>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:44:11 -0400
>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: new babies
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <21E2D16C295D40EBB5AF3ADDF55B143A at tammy>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't understand the below? Who should have started rice at
>> four months and what would have heled?
>>
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:39 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing
>>>> at this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture, you
>>>> might try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her
>>>> put
>>>> them in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a little
>>>> with
>>>> cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>> changed
>>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We
>>>>> had
>>>>> a half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>>> breastfeeding because she's not at all liking when I touch her face.
>>>>> She's hit the spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play
>>>>> with her cereal and fruit.
>>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>>> A&K
>>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
>>>>> is
>>>>> up to you."
>>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:32:19 -0400
>> From: "Karla Hudson" <HudsonKC at msu.edu>
>> Subject: [blparent] Double stroller another idea
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <A959524AE9394189A343D83B2D1D471B at KarlaPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I had this dilemma somewhat when my son was born our daughter was three.
>> However, she was a small three and still liked the stroller. My husband
>> was
>> still able to carrier her on his back in our back pack. Is this something
>> you might do? I don't know the ages of your children. Again we thought of
>> the double stroller idea but did not want to put the money in such a
>> device.
>> We just worked it out with the back-pack and the stroller with the
>> smaller
>> child in it.
>>
>> I also used the ergo as a transport method with one child on my back and
>> the
>> other holding my hand.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Karla
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:46:32 -0500
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] double strollers?
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
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>> We had a side by side, and I just pulled it behind me. It worked ok,
>> not great, but was dooable.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 07:28 PM 8/15/2009, you wrote:
>>>Hi all, you must have known this question would come. LOL has anyone
>>>any experience
>>>with double strollers? I am looking for one that will pull as easy
>>>as my peg prego.
>>>Any thaughts? It seams as if they do not make any with ravercable
>>>handels or swiveling
>>>weals. Or am I missing one? I was just looking at a colcraft online,
>>>and liked that
>>>the seets can be moved around to have the kids face different ways.
>>>But I wonder
>>>how this would be for pulling. Also did you find the side by sides
>>>were harder to
>>>use then the frun to backs? Again any help would be grate.
>>>Thanks
>>>Amber Boggs
>>>
>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:32:52 -0400
>> From: "Melissa Ann Riccobono" <melissa at riccobono.us>
>> Subject: [blparent] Double Strollers
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <00cc01ca1ee3$08116e50$18344af0$@us>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> My sister had a double stroller for a while, but she found it hard to
>> pull
>> and very heavy so she didn't use it much. Of course, this was a few years
>> ago so they may have a newer model which is lighter. Personally I might
>> wait a bit to make such a purchase. When the baby is very young you will
>> be
>> able to wear him or her in a sling, snugglee, etc. and still pull your
>> son
>> in a stroller. Depending on what type of sling or carrier you have you
>> may
>> be able to wear your youngest for quite a while-I can still carry my
>> two-year-old on my back-and your older child can ride in the stroller and
>> then, of course, begin to walk more and more along with you. By the time
>> your youngest is too big to be carried comfortably I bet your oldest will
>> be
>> wanting to walk most of the time on his own. Of course, if you want
>> another
>> baby fairly soon, then a double stroller might be more of a must. But,
>> you
>> may be able to get along without one fairly easily.
>>
>> Just some thoughts. It never hurts to look at your options. I would
>> definitely want to get my hands on, fold, unfold, and pull a double
>> stroller, or any stroller for that matter, before purchasing. Just my
>> preference!
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:43:48 -0400
>> From: "E. Tarr" <esquared100 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [blparent] Welcome
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <12eeb3000908161943i5037b6c4ra5429f91b9bd9ceb at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hello, all.
>> Thank you to Veronica for welcoming me to the list. I am
>> thoroughly enjoying all of these messages. It is so encouraging and
>> reassuring to know that such a wonderful resource exists for us blind
>> parents.
>>
>> Ellen Elizabeth
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:10:24 -0400
>> From: "Jennifer Massey" <renandstimpy3 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] double strollers?
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <417DA31B77624240BC60AC4382F02718 at LIVINGLOUNGE3>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> What about a sit and stand. The baby would go up front and in the back is
>> a
>> "jump" seat for the older child, they can either sit on the seat or they
>> can
>> stand on the stand plate that it has. This also leaves room for the older
>> child to get in and out the stroller when they want.
>>
>> Jennifer and Dustin
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] double strollers?
>>
>>
>>> This is just my opinion, since I have never used one, but it seems that
>>> one
>>> in front of the other would be much easier to handle. Side by side would
>>> be
>>> too wide and thus not easy to control. V
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Amber Boggs
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:29 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: [blparent] double strollers?
>>>
>>> Hi all, you must have known this question would come. LOL has anyone any
>>> experience
>>> with double strollers? I am looking for one that will pull as easy as my
>>> peg
>>>
>>> prego.
>>> Any thaughts? It seams as if they do not make any with ravercable
>>> handels
>>> or
>>>
>>> swiveling
>>> weals. Or am I missing one? I was just looking at a colcraft online, and
>>> liked that
>>> the seets can be moved around to have the kids face different ways. But
>>> I
>>> wonder
>>> how this would be for pulling. Also did you find the side by sides were
>>> harder to
>>> use then the frun to backs? Again any help would be grate.
>>> Thanks
>>> Amber Boggs
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:07:38 -0400
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Removing splinters?
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Thank you guys on the splinter stuff. Much appreciated.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Veronica Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:06 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Removing splinters?
>>
>> We used packing tape one time when gab's friend Noah fell into a cactus
>> plant. His parents plucked out the big needles with tweezers and we
>> used the packing tape for the tiny hairs. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Melissa Ann Riccobono
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:47 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Removing splinters?
>>
>> I don't know if that works, but I've used tape when the splinter isn't
>> in very deep. Just put the tape on the area and pull it off.
>> Melissa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:31 PM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] Removing splinters?
>>
>> Hi everybody.
>> Do any of you have any good ways to remove splinters? No, nobody has
>> one... yet, I'm just taking a premptive strike. I've read that Elmer's
>> glue will work that if you apply it to skin with a splinter and wait for
>> it to dry and then peel the glue off, the splinter will come with it.
>> Anybody know if this works?
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:19:15 -0400
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <6A56D82ACD5A414390131171CDC0E282016A6F3B at xmbv3802.northgrum.com>
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>> Hi.
>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:29:49 -0500
>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <70CBCEB0E3F14D16AA844A8FA4B6B871 at ScottLawlor>
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>>
>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>> the
>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:32:41 -0400
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Believe me, I agree and we listen to those all the time. I'm just
>> wondering what else might be out tthere both in terms of material and
>> devices for listening to said material. Old Time Radio is great.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:30 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>> the kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>> Aside
>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:43:13 -0600
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
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>>
>> I heard that recently, too.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> I'm not going to worry about solids so much. She's still nursing and her
>>> doc didn't seem to concerned about her weight gain. I've heard from many
>>> other parents and read articles that say solids or baby food in the
>>> first
>>> year is mostly for exploration not so much for the nutrients. She'll get
>>> the hang of it soon enough.
>>>
>>> A&K
>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up is
>>> up
>>> to you."
>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>>4 months or 6, it just depends on the baby. It all depends on your
>>>>doctor,
>>>> my pediatritian said 5. V
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:39 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing
>>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>> this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture, you
>>>>> might
>>>>
>>>>> try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her put
>>>>> them
>>>>> in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a little with
>>>>> cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>>> changed
>>>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>>> half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>>>> breastfeeding
>>>>
>>>>>> because she's not at all liking when I touch her face. She's hit the
>>>>>> spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play with her
>>>>>> cereal
>>>>>> and fruit.
>>>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>>>> A&K
>>>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> up to you."
>>>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:42:42 -0500
>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <0BC54DF7AE52473F9E40DAAABC551DA7 at ScottLawlor>
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>>
>> Levelstar has something called the icon which is pretty cool. It's around
>> $1500 I think. For something cheaper and that is more portable, I think
>> some of the new i-pods have talking menus and you could get a docking
>> station with speakers from best buy or something like that.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>> Believe me, I agree and we listen to those all the time. I'm just
>>> wondering what else might be out tthere both in terms of material and
>>> devices for listening to said material. Old Time Radio is great.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:30 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>> the kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>> Aside
>>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>>
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>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:45:57 -0600
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] double strollers?
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
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>> Try carrying the baby strapped ot you in a front carier and the other in
>> a
>> stroller until you find one you like. Might be a little cumbersome, but
>> it's doable. My children are four years apart, so that's not something i
>> needed to worry about. And, I can't have any more. It's not safe for me
>> naymore.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] double strollers?
>>
>>
>>> We had a side by side, and I just pulled it behind me. It worked ok, not
>>> great, but was dooable.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 07:28 PM 8/15/2009, you wrote:
>>>>Hi all, you must have known this question would come. LOL has anyone any
>>>>experience
>>>>with double strollers? I am looking for one that will pull as easy as my
>>>>peg prego.
>>>>Any thaughts? It seams as if they do not make any with ravercable
>>>>handels
>>>>or swiveling
>>>>weals. Or am I missing one? I was just looking at a colcraft online, and
>>>>liked that
>>>>the seets can be moved around to have the kids face different ways. But
>>>>I
>>>>wonder
>>>>how this would be for pulling. Also did you find the side by sides were
>>>>harder to
>>>>use then the frun to backs? Again any help would be grate.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Amber Boggs
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:54:30 -0600
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
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>> Some babies do better than others. I started Joshua at four months, and
>> he
>> tok to cereal right away. Now, he likes to put the spoon into his mouth
>> himself. He takes fruits and vegies and some meats now, but still nurses,
>> except when he is with a sitter. Then, he gets a botle, and the siter
>> time
>> is only an hour or two. Sometiems. he gets one when his father comes home
>> for the wek-end, just so that he has the option of feding him if he wants
>> to.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> It's okay if she just plays with the spoon. Give her a little cereal and
>>> let her get the feel of what it is. It's about time to start with the
>>> cereal. Just put a little in her mouth and she'll get the jest of it. V
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Anjelina
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:05 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We had
>>> a
>>> half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>> breastfeeding
>>> because she's not at all liking when I touch her face. She's hit the
>>> spoon
>>> out of my hand a few times and just wants to play with her cereal and
>>> fruit.
>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>> A&K
>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up is
>>> up
>>> to you."
>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>
>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:46:12 +0000
>> From: kate02 at bellsouth.net
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] school
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> We go Friday to see who the teacher is this year. I?m hoping this year
>> goes better then last.
>>
>> This will also be the last year of public school if it turns out to be
>> more of the same.
>>
>> On the up side, Ash is ready to return though a bit nervous. She walked
>> in
>
>> to the living room the other day and informed Clay and I that ?I?m just
>> not prepared for first grade.? We informed her that since she used
>> prepared correctly there shouldn?t be any issues academically.
>>
>> Also this is the first year we have to do portfolios any tips?
>>
>> OK, I?ll Write more later.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>
>>> School is getting ready to start here. We went on Wednesday to meet
>>> gab's
>>> new teacher. She is the same teacher Gab had in Kindergarten. I love
>>> her,
>>> so life should be good this year and she is already broken in. Gab
>>> starts
>>> on August 19. V
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:01:32 -0600
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <001901ca1f43$3a79c850$31870a18 at HOME>
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>>
>> RFBD also has bokd for children. I haven't used any just het, but I think
>> i
>> will try a few for my daughter. If you don't have a memberhsip, it's free
>> now. Audible.com ptobably has some things to.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:19 AM
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:02:38 -0600
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <002b01ca1f43$61b65690$31870a18 at HOME>
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>>
>> Hey, Scott, email me offlist if I can borow some from you. That would be
>> fun.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Lawlor" <sklawlor at mac.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>>I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>>the kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>>> Aside
>>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:02:52 +0000
>> From: kate02 at bellsouth.net
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>
> <081720091402.12603.4A89630C000B834B0000313B22230682329B0A02D2089B9A019C0404
> 0A0DBFCDCF0A9B0E05 at att.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>>
>> What exactly do you disapprove of in TV for kids? I?m just curious, if
>> you
>
>> would like I can give a few examples of good kid?s programming.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>>>
>>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>> the
>>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi.
>>> > What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>> > Aside
>>> > from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>> >
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:14:54 -0500
>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <A7CC2E1D5B92435B9BD467B8794355F4 at ScottLawlor>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8;
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> well, it seems that most of the shows today, especially the cartoons are
>> so
>> loud and way too stimulating for children. I know that whenever our
>> 11-year-old watches those things, they get him all wound up and he's
>> difficult to deal with so we don't allow him to watch cartoons.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>>
>>> What exactly do you disapprove of in TV for kids? I?m just curious, if
>>> you would like I can give a few examples of good kid?s programming.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>>>>
>>>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>>> the
>>>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi.
>>>> > What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>>> > Aside
>>>> > from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:22:48 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <003901ca1f46$32447740$96cd65c0$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> What did you give him for his first time solid food and at what age? V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Amber Boggs
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:28 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>> I never gave searial to sean and he has no problems with solids.
>> Amber Boggs
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> There's some debate about when to start rice cereal, but any time
>>> between
>>> four and six months is usually fine. Much later than six months, and
>>> there's some evidence to suggest babies won't like the texture of solid
>>> foods.
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing
>>>>> at this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture,
>>>>> you
>>>>> might try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her
>>>>> put them in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a
>>>>> little
>>
>>>>> with cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>>> changed
>>
>>>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We
>>>>>> had
>>
>>>>>> a half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>>>> breastfeeding because she's not at all liking when I touch her face.
>>>>>> She's hit the spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play
>>>>>> with her cereal and fruit.
>>>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>>>> A&K
>>>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
>>>>>> is
>>
>>>>>> up to you."
>>>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> Message: 27
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:24:48 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: new babies
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <003a01ca1f46$79f5e3d0$6de1ab70$@net>
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>>
>> Tammy, I believe it was a typo, saying Angelina should of started solids
>> at
>> 4 months and the word heled should of said helped. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tammy, Paul and Colyn
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:44 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: new babies
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't understand the below? Who should have started rice at
>> four months and what would have heled?
>>
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:39 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] new babies
>>
>>
>>> Should have started rice at four months. That would have heled.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Anjelina. Spoon feeding is a real challenge. Since the main thing
>>>> at this early stage is experience for Kloei with taste and texture, you
>>>> might try just dipping her fingers in fruit or cereal and letting her
>>>> put
>>
>>>> them in her mouth. Also, it helps if you thicken the fruit a little
>>>> with
>>
>>>> cereal, just enough so it stays on the spoon.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>> changed
>>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] new babies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey there. It's hard to believe but Kloei is six months already! We
>>>>> had
>>>>> a half birthday for her on Wednesday. We're still exclusively
>>>>> breastfeeding because she's not at all liking when I touch her face.
>>>>> She's hit the spoon out of my hand a few times and just wants to play
>>>>> with her cereal and fruit.
>>>>> She's a growing happy girl.
>>>>> A&K
>>>>> "Life is a grindstone. Whether it grinds you down or polishes you up
>>>>> is
>>>>> up to you."
>>>>> ~Thomas L. Holdcroft
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: [blparent] new babies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So how are all you new mom's and dad's doing? Any questions? V
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 28
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:25:48 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Welcome
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <003b01ca1f46$9d871d50$d89557f0$@net>
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>>
>> I remember when I was the new comer on the block. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of E. Tarr
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:44 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: [blparent] Welcome
>>
>> Hello, all.
>> Thank you to Veronica for welcoming me to the list. I am
>> thoroughly enjoying all of these messages. It is so encouraging and
>> reassuring to know that such a wonderful resource exists for us blind
>> parents.
>>
>> Ellen Elizabeth
>>
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>>
>> Message: 29
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:09 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <003c01ca1f46$cde1cea0$69a56be0$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Your public library has loads of really fun books on tape as well as does
>> barnes & Noble and border books. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:19 AM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> Hi.
>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blparent mailing list
>> blparent at nfbnet.org
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>>
>> Message: 30
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:51 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <003d01ca1f46$e6cdcfe0$b4696fa0$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Oh yeah, Toys R Us has a whole section of musical stories. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:19 AM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> Hi.
>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blparent at nfbnet.org
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>>
>> Message: 31
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:28:26 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <003e01ca1f46$fbc4a220$f34de660$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Where do you get those? V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:30 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>> the
>>
>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 32
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:30:39 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
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>> A simple tape recorder purchased at Walmart works for talking books or
>> books
>> on tape or a cheap cd player, they still have them. Smile!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:43 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> Levelstar has something called the icon which is pretty cool. It's around
>> $1500 I think. For something cheaper and that is more portable, I think
>> some of the new i-pods have talking menus and you could get a docking
>> station with speakers from best buy or something like that.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>> Believe me, I agree and we listen to those all the time. I'm just
>>> wondering what else might be out tthere both in terms of material and
>>> devices for listening to said material. Old Time Radio is great.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:30 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>> the kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>> Aside
>>>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>>
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>> Message: 33
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:33:26 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] school
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>> Don't feel bad, Gab has known her teacher for 4 years and she is
>> terrified
>
>> to go take the reading test today. She said, as if she would have a
>> problem, what if I have to go to the bathroom in the middle of the test.
>> Kids are so funny. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of kate02 at bellsouth.net
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:46 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [blparent] school
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> We go Friday to see who the teacher is this year. I?m hoping this year
>> goes better then last.
>>
>> This will also be the last year of public school if it turns out to be
>> more of the same.
>>
>> On the up side, Ash is ready to return though a bit nervous. She walked
>> in
>
>> to the living room the other day and informed Clay and I that ?I?m just
>> not prepared for first grade.? We informed her that since she used
>> prepared correctly there shouldn?t be any issues academically.
>>
>> Also this is the first year we have to do portfolios any tips?
>>
>> OK, I?ll Write more later.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>
>>> School is getting ready to start here. We went on Wednesday to meet
>>> gab's
>>> new teacher. She is the same teacher Gab had in Kindergarten. I love
>>> her,
>>> so life should be good this year and she is already broken in. Gab
>>> starts
>>> on August 19. V
>>>
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>> Message: 34
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:35:13 -0600
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
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>> That's the problem, there is only some good kids programming, but there
>> is
>
>> lots of smut as well. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of kate02 at bellsouth.net
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:03 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>> What exactly do you disapprove of in TV for kids? I?m just curious, if
>> you
>
>> would like I can give a few examples of good kid?s programming.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>>>
>>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>> the
>>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi.
>>> > What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>> > Aside
>>> > from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>> >
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>> Message: 35
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:37:54 -0500
>> From: "Dena Wainwright" <dena at envogueaccess.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
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>> the more research that is being done regarding exposure to television for
>> kids, the more it is being determined that it just isn't good for them,
>> unless it's controlled and moderated strictly. I've heard from several
>> sources, including the American Pediatric Association (can't remember if
>> that's it's correct name) that children under 2 years of age, just
>> shouldn't
>> watch television. my pediatrician says it's because kids don't learn by
>> watching images on screens, they learn by doing. in fact, we are trying
>> to
>> dramatically reduce our television input as a family for this reason.
>>
>> I've actually seen television become a real problem for some kids; they
>> become addicted to it, learn bad behaviors from it, act out when they
>> can't
>> watch it, refuse to engage in other activities in favor of watching it,
>> etc.
>> I know some of this is also how closely monitored the child is by his
>> parents. issues like that just don't arise over night.
>>
>> having said all that, I agree with you that there are "good" and "bad"
>> kids
>> programs. I'm a fan of PBS Kids shows that actually teach something, and
>> are
>> not violent or age-inappropriate. it is really amazing how many cartoons
>> are
>> violent, or how many teach messages that we simply wouldn't otherwise
>> expose
>> our kids to. e.g., the whole princess waits (depressed and lonely) for
>> prince charming to ride in and rescue her.
>>
>> I read a really good article a few weeks ago that suggested you could
>> maximize the experience of watching television by engaging the child as
>> you
>> watch the program. the article suggested that you pre-record programs
>> (like
>> sesame street), and get the child to actively participate as you watch.
>> e.g., if the number of the day on sesame street is "3," you could pause
>> the
>> show and ask your child to go find you three of something (crayons,
>> blocks,
>> etc.). similarly, if the letter is "r," you could ask your child to go
>> find
>> you something in the house that starts with "r."
>>
>> Dena
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>>
>>>
>>> What exactly do you disapprove of in TV for kids? I?m just curious, if
>>> you would like I can give a few examples of good kid?s programming.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at mac.com>
>>>>
>>>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>>>> the
>>>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
>>>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi.
>>>> > What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids?
>>>> > Aside
>>>> > from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>>> >
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>> Message: 36
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:11:05 -0400
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
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>> What format?
>> V, you mention tape, I thought ttapes were gone? Do you mean cd or some
>> other digital format
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Veronica Smith
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:28 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> Oh yeah, Toys R Us has a whole section of musical stories. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:19 AM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] Audio materials
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>> Hi.
>> What are you guys doing for various audio materials for your kids? Aside
>> from the library and NLS which I know about, what else is out there?
>>
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>> Message: 37
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:11:23 -0400
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
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>> I get ours from XM Radio.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Veronica Smith
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:28 AM
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>>
>> Where do you get those? V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:30 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Audio materials
>>
>> I have old time radio shows for kids. I think these would be better for
>> the
>>
>> kid than all the crap that's on tv these days.
>>
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