[blparent] A disturbing situation

Elizabeth Cooks elizabethcooks at comcast.net
Wed Jul 7 13:18:55 UTC 2010


Lol. Have fun.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation


> Smile! I will be out of town for 6 days so if you don't hear from me this 
> is
> why.  Ok, ok, don't be so excited! Have a great week. V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:21 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>
> Funny how that happens.  None of my children have had any major accidents,
> but some of my sighted friends have children who have had multiple major
> accidents which have sent them to the emergency room.  Anyone who spouts
> that crap about it's okay because one or the other parent is sighted would
> get an earful from me, and they wouldn't like what I had to say.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>
>
>> Joe elizabeth in regards to your sighted friend and all others, it drives
>> me
>> crazy when someone makes comments referring to blind mom's or parents. 
>> We
>> wmight drop our baby or worse.  Well, if everyone would just take a 
>> moment
>> and look around, everyone is able to drop a baby.  It happens everyday in
>> every culture.  We don't have the market on making mistakes with our
>> children.
>> When Gab was a few days I crashed into the wall and bumped her head.   My
>> sister-in-law crashed into the wall when her son was a week old and broke
>> his arm (she is sighted).  It just happens and it's no one's fault.
>> Now, I'll get off my horse and go to bed. V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:04 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>
>> Hi.  Sorry, I did kind of take it personally.  The whole situation is
>> terribly upsetting, but it's true, you never know what people will get in
>> their heads.  Most everyone that I've mentioned this to has been appalled
>> and horrified at what has happened to the baby and her parents.  But I do
>> have one sighted friend who completely shocked me because he said he 
>> could
>> kind of see the point of the social workers.  He said, "You know, lack of
>> sleep, and you're worn out, you could fall with the baby, or something
>> could
>>
>> happen."  I said I didn't have any problems with Sarah, and he pointed 
>> out
>> that her dad is sighted.  I told him that I got home from the hospital on
>> a
>> Wednesday night, and the sighted dad went back to work Saturday morning,
>> so
>> we had two days.  And that was only because I had a Cesarean delivery, 
>> and
>> we have steep stairs that I was having trouble getting up and down.  Then
>> my
>>
>> friend kind of backed off and said, well, you have a point.  But you 
>> never
>> know who will get the notion that the poor little baby was protected from
>> some impending disaster.  Still, my prayers, and those of my church, are
>> that justice prevails on July 20.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Sharin" <coffeemommy at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:36 AM
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>
>>> OK, think maybe you took my comment a little too hard. I was commenting
>>> to
>>> everyone, not you personally. It is tempting to get the media involved 
>>> so
>>> everyone knows how horribly these parents have been treated. I was only
>>> making a couple of points. I think we're all upset about this, to put it
>>> mildly, no reason to let them divide and conquer. :).
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:20 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>>
>>> Give me a break already.  I wasn't second guessing anybody, or telling
>>> the
>>> lawyers how to do their job.  I just said that the media might not be as
>>> interested later, which is true, because stories that make the news are
>>> those that happen in the moment.  Of course the priority is getting the
>>> baby
>>>
>>> back home with her parents, and I wasn't suggesting otherwise.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Sharin" <coffeemommy at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:31 AM
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>>
>>>> I think they will if a law suit is filed. The priority right now is
>>>> getting
>>>> the parents and baby back together. Anything else comes after. We 
>>>> should
>>>> try
>>>> to look at this from the perspective of the parents. If they haven't
>>>> gone
>>>> to
>>>> the media and are choosing to follow the advice of their lawyers, who
>>>> are
>>>> we
>>>> to second guess that? Also, who knows what spin some ignorant reporter
>>>> might
>>>> put on it?
>>>>
>>>> Sharin
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:03 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>>>
>>>> I understand that the lawyers have requested no media, and that's fine.
>>>> But
>>>>
>>>> the media won't be interested in the story after the baby is back home
>>>> with
>>>> her parents.
>>>>
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:41 PM
>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>>>
>>>>> They said no media.  This is the request of the lawyers involved.  The
>>>>> media
>>>>> can have it after the baby is safely at home. V
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Karla Hudson
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:39 PM
>>>>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [blparent] A disturbing situation
>>>>>
>>>>> The more I hear of this baby being removed from her parents so soon I
>>>>> become
>>>>> more and more angry. I almost felt as though I had a similar situation
>>>>> with
>>>>> my first child. Thank goodness for my doula and friends strength that
>>>>> got
>>>>> my
>>>>> husband and I through the annoying ignorant hospital staffs hoops. You
>>>>> know
>>>>> I have friends who are both blind who raised ten children. They are 
>>>>> now
>>>>> 89
>>>>> and 90. The courts should consult with this couple to find out if it 
>>>>> is
>>>>> possible to raise children when you are blind. We see so much on the
>>>>> news
>>>>> about drug and alcoholic parents and hearing that these people are
>>>>> being
>>>>> restricted access to their child because they are blind just makes you
>>>>> feel
>>>>> sick. The parents have missed the important bonding stage and no doubt
>>>>> has
>>>>> missed the option to nurse the baby. This list should send an address
>>>>> where
>>>>> donations can be made for the legal costs. I hope the hospital is 
>>>>> taken
>>>>> for
>>>>> a huge amount of money. The emotional drain on the parents has to be
>>>>> enormous. The media should be involved here as well. If these parents
>>>>> are
>>>>> just on the scale of everyday people who happen to be blind then the
>>>>> baby
>>>>> should be back with them now. Can the NFB get some media attention for
>>>>> this
>>>>> story? There should be pressure on the CPS in their state and the
>>>>> person
>>>>> who
>>>>> made this decision should lose their job.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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