[blparent] toddler in crowds

Mon May 10 07:26:01 UTC 2010

No, you're not.  I said nothing about todlers or preschoolers.  When i say 
"outgrow"  I mean by elementary schol age when children are expected to sit 
for longer periods.  I also used the words "might be a possibility", not 
"does have" or "is going to have".  I ma perfectly well aware of what is 
acceptable at toddler and preschool age, thank you very much.  Sorry about 
the post, everyone.  Just clarifying a few things here.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds


>I am paying attention.  There is no such thing as hyperactivity disorder in 
>toddlers, it is very rare in preschool age children, and just because a 
>toddler wanders doesn't mean he might possibly have ADHD.  Even putting 
>that out as a possibility at his age is absurd.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Joy Wolf" <joy at kevinlwolf.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:50 PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>
>> I must respectfully agree that even with that if, it is very easy to 
>> worry
>> parents unnecessarily with those kinds of possibilities.  Of course, it's
>> possible, but so are a lot of things.  I guess maybe I have heard too 
>> many
>> people, both acquaintances and professionals, go on about what could 
>> happen,
>> how a child might develop, and what if this doesn't get better.  In fact, 
>> my
>> parents were told that developmentally I wouldn't pass the age of about 
>> five
>> years.  Lol, I'd like to think I did, though.  I guess what I'm saying is
>> that I can see why some would be sensitive to even the thought that there
>> may be a problem, when what is being faced right now is normal toddler
>> behavior.  In fact, at four years old, my son will get distracted by
>> something and wander, and there are no signs whatsoever of ADHD, unless 
>> the
>> only criteria is occasionally wandering away.  No offense intended here, 
>> but
>> I can see why this might not have been taken in the best way.  In other
>> words, why get ahead of ourselves?  Have a good week everyone.
>>
>> Joy and family
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:24 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>
>> I said if he doesn't outgrow that.  Pay attention.  The operative word
>> hereis "if".
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>
>>
>>> Hey, back up the bus.  Shannon's son is very young, and wandering is
>>> something that all toddlers do.  There is absolutely no reason in the
>>> world to start thinking that he might have ADHD because he wanders at 
>>> the
>>> age of two, or somewhere around that age.  I have a pretty good deal of
>>> knowledge about ADHD because of my stepson, and it positively does not
>>> exist in toddlers, and very rarely in preschoolers.  I'm not meaning to 
>>> be
>>
>>> rude or anything, but it's way too early to start ringing alarm bells
>>> about a problem that isn't there.
>>>
>>> Having said that, keeping track of a toddler in a crowd is difficult.
>>> It's a strain for me even in a small church on Sundays.  The child leash
>>> does help, and having people you trust keep their eyes open helps also.
>>> There are child locators that sound an alarm when you push a button. 
>>> The
>>> child wears a beeper that goes off.  Teaching a child to answer when
>>> called is good as he gets older.  But to be perfectly honest, I've found
>>> that without sighted help, it's very difficult to keep tabs on Sarah in 
>>> a
>>> crowd.  Because of that, I plan where I go if I am on my own to avoid
>>> noisy, busy situations, or I go when someone who can see is available. 
>>> I
>>> seek out opportunities to go places with sighted people when I can 
>>> because
>>
>>> I don't want to take away experiences that would be valuable for Sarah 
>>> to
>>> have, like playing on busy playgrounds.  It will probably put some super
>>> turbo independent blind people off, but for the sake of my child's 
>>> safety,
>>
>>> I've personally decided that there are some places I'd rather not go
>>> unless I have a sighted companion.  That may change as Sarah gets older
>>> and more verbal, but for now, I make sure we get out often and have a 
>>> lot
>>> of friends, and that I do things with her at home every single day 
>>> instead
>>
>>> of just being in the same room.
>>> F
>>> or what it's worth,
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:47 PM
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>
>>>> Keep a child leash on him.  If he doesn't outgrow that, ADHD might be a
>>>> possibility.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Shannan Zinck" <shannanzinck at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:15 PM
>>>> Subject: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sooo went to Moncton this weekend for a missions trip. a 1 nighter.
>>>>> Anyway
>>>>> how do you guys cope with being in large crowds with a toddler who 
>>>>> loves
>>
>>>>> to
>>>>> wander. He's a good kid but, can't keep still to save his life. We 
>>>>> were
>>>>> at
>>>>> an overnight shelter, (the one we used to work at) and I found it 
>>>>> really
>>>>> nerve racking. I used the harness when I could but, I'm one of the
>>>>> singers
>>>>> so had to be up front and get some friends to watch him. Most of my
>>>>> friends
>>>>> are sighted so it's easier for them to chase him around the center. 
>>>>> well
>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> am claustrophobic as well so crowds freak me out anyway and with a
>>>>> toddler
>>>>> running around it's 10 times worse. I was sort of fine until I had to
>>>>> rely
>>>>> totally on my friends that's hard. His birth mom was there too and had
>>>>> him
>>>>> much of the time so I was a little wary and was constantly straining 
>>>>> to
>>>>> know
>>>>> where he was and half the time I didn't know exactly. I trust my 
>>>>> friends
>>>>> but, I'm not always going to have the option of having them around 
>>>>> every
>>>>> time I take a trip. We did well on this trip but, quite leary about
>>>>> taking
>>>>> another one.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Shannan Zinck
>>>>> Survival is letting GOD take over!!!
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