[blparent] blparent Digest, Vol 87, Issue 14

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>    1. Re: sensoring: reading, etc (Peggy)
>    2. Re: school teacher issue (Melissa Ann Riccobono)
>    3. Re: found a great option for changing baby-toddler
>       (Melissa Ann Riccobono)
>    4. Re: [Bulk] Re: my dilemma and why i need suggestions	on
>       commuting (Melissa Ann Riccobono)
>    5. Re: school teacher issue (Nikki)
>    6. commuting, etc (jan wright)
>    7. update: preg, ultrasound, etc (jan wright)
>    8. Re: my delemma and why i need suggestions on commuting
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>    9. Re: commuting, etc (Brandy W)
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 07:36:53 -0500
> From: "Peggy" <pshald at neb.rr.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
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> I'll have to check those out as well.  That's why I thought he'd like the
> Kelly Armstrong books I got him, they're about shapeshifters, vampires,
> warewolves, and they are really good.  If he'd just take the time to sit and
> read one I think he'd really like them.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pipi
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:33 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
>
> Peggy,
> My nephew at 12 loves the diary of a whimpy kid books. He is also really
> into a series called the chronicles of vladimere todd. They are for older
> readers or at least that is what the school library says because he had to
> have a note from his mom in order to check them out.
> I've never read them, but they are about vampires and such. My opinion from
> just the little I know is they may be the manly twilights? There are about 5
> in the series. They go by year, so 8th grade bites, 9th gread is something
> else and so on. If you can't find the info on google, let me know and i'll
> attempt to find it.
> My nephew wasn't really a reader at all until he found these books.
> Pipi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peggy" <pshald at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
>
>
>>I read with my daughter when I was pregnant with her, she is now 19 and not
>>
>>a reader, to my dismay.  I can't remember when I stopped reading books to
>>or with her.  My son is 11 and we just stopped reading together last year,
>>he still wanted to read the Magic Treehouse books and his teacher and I
>>wanted him to read something more challenging, so then he got stubborn and
>>refused to read with me anymore.  To my dismay, he's not a reader either. I
>>
>>even recommend books to him, such as the series by Kelly Armstrong made for
>>
>>tweens or teens ... I've read the books and thought he'd like them, but I
>>bought them at the beginning of the summer, and they remain unread.  He
>>really likes Diary of a Wimpy Kid books and I've read them so we could talk
>>
>>about them.  Another series, which I've only been able to find the first
>>book of is Alcatraz books, but I've read the first one and am searching for
>>
>>others.  My littlest one just turned a year and I've read to him ... not as
>>
>>much as my other kids, sorry to say, but we've been getting better.  We
>>read now at naptime and bedtime and he'll go get books and bring them to
>>me, I always stop what I'm doing and take the time to read them to him.  He
>>
>>is the only one of my kids to actually bring me books to read, so maybe
>>he'll be my reader, I can only hope.  I love to read and it's been
>>disappointing to not have any children that love to read as well, holding
>>out hope for Dylan. We've already read 10 Chirpy Chicks four times this
>>morning, lol.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Melissa Ann Riccobono
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:08 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
>>
>> Austin is four now--he still loves certain picture books, but recently
>> he's
>> discovered the Beverly Cleary books.  I have read him a couple, a chapter
>> at
>> a time, and he's listened to others that NLS has recorded.  He's really
>> enjoying reading in both ways, and I can really tell it's improving his
>> vocabulary since the words are just a bit bigger.  He's also really
>> starting
>> to be able to read simple stories by himself, which is also exciting.  My
>> mom read aloud to me until I was in middle school.  Part of that was
>> because
>> I didn't have as much access to books then as blind kids do now; you have
>> best sellers on Bookshare right around the time they are out...  I lived
>> in
>> the old days when a book wouldn't be available in braille or on cassette
>> for
>> a long time.  I really hope to be able to read with my kids for a long
>> time
>> as well.
>> Melissa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Deborah Kent Stein
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:10 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
>>
>>
>>
>> The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon is a great King novel that I think would
>> work
>> well for middle-schoolers.  To my recall there's no sex or overt violence,
>> but it's a gripping page-turner about a nine-year-old girl managing to
>> survive when she gets lost in the woods.
>>
>> On the topic of reading, I'm curious to know how much parents on this list
>> read aloud with their kids.  In my house we kept it up far beyond picture
>> books, even sharing classics like Watership Down and A Tale of Two Cities.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peggy" <pshald at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
>>
>>
>>> What works for certain families isn't right for other families.
>>> Conserative or not, I respect everyone's beliefs.  I am not conservative
>>> in the least and probably ... at times ... speak too frankly with my
>>> children.  I would love for them to stay little ... forever ... but it's
>>> not happening ... and I would rather they learn the facts through me than
>>> finding out things other places.  I do not think all Stephen King's
>>> materials are appropriate for 12 year olds ... I don't remember anything
>>> in it that would traumatize my 11-year-old.  There may be some sex in it,
>>> honestly I don't remember, what I remember is there's a lot of geography
>>> in there and teaching a lot about working together to defeat evil.  Now
>>> he
>>
>>> wrote a book called Gerald's Game about a man and woman ... the woman was
>>> handcuffed to the bed ready for um er ... and then the man dies ... would
>>> I let my son read that one, no. Misery was about a girl that traps a man
>>> and saws him all up and tortures him would I let my son read that one ...
>>> no.  Some parents out there would disagree with me and let their kids
>>> read
>>
>>> whatever, that's fine, some probably think I'm horrible for letting my
>>> kids read what they do, and that's fine too.  She asked about the Stand
>>> and I would let my son read that one ... if only he was interested in
>>> reading.  I love these lists, you get so many people's perspective!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gabe Vega
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:34 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] sensoring: reading, etc
>>>
>>> I'm glad I'm only fiscally conservative because if I was anyway shape or
>>> form related or on the bandwagon with this posting I'd be ashamed.
>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:14 AM, jan wright wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very long rant: be forewarned.
>>>> Ok, i am admitting up front:
>>>> there are certain subjects that I am definitely conservative on and
>>>> there are other subjects that I am quite liberal on.
>>>> I just read the posts about sensoring -- (I know I'm behind)
>>>> About this subject, i admit that i am conservative.
>>>> With my first four: i did not let them play violent video games. i
>>>> remember having an argument with other parents when they let their
>>>> 6-8yo watch "Rush Hour," with Jackie Chan. i remember having a
>>>> discussion with teachers when they let their class read "counterfeit
>>>> son," which i found objectionable.
>>>> Certainly the darker side of life exists. But: at this innocent age,
>>>> why highlight it in such a manner. when they don't have to go through
>>>> it, why allow them to experience it through a book? ... ... especially
>>>> when that book is not a biographical account, but a fictional account
>>>> -- not a biographical account of triumph, but something that has been
>>>> made up in someone's head...
>>>> / For me: I want my children to 'be children' for as long as they need
>>>> to. There is something about exposure that makes children have the
>>>> knowledge without the emotional experience to process such events. I
>>>> read Ishmael Beah's account of being a boy soldier at the age of 6-10.
>>>> (the book  was called "A long way gone," and Ismael Beah is from
>>>> Sierra Leonne and now works for Human Watch).  this experience scarred
>>>> the boys for life. Why would i want my 10yo to experience such things
>>>> through a book?
>>>> I don't think that there is anything wrong with childhood innocence.
>>>> Of course, we don't want our children to be too naive about somethings
>>>> that could be potential dangers. But, i'd rather tell my children what
>>>> they need to know, instead of reading it in a book that might put a
>>>> spin on it that I don't agree with. of course, parents get to decide
>>>> when this exposure should happen. When your five year old asks: "Where
>>>> did I come from," most parents don't say, "let me tell you about sex."
>>>> they offer a truthful version, yet, they leave out many of the
>>>> details. When we see a homeless person on the street, we shouldn't
>>>> ignore the child's question: but we don't have to hear all of their
>>>> (possibly) drug adicted  story of criminal elements and such. i am not
>>>> sure that it really benefits the child to know all of the gory
>>>> details. I'd rather focus on what to do about it.
>>>> This is what i think that many books lack.  Their point is to shock
>>>> and awe and at  9-12 , I don't want my children being shocked and awed
>>>> by the groosome things of the world. i would rather them be shocked by
>>>> an astonishing fact. It did not bother me  that, at 12, my daughter
>>>> was not boy crazy or trying to have a boyfriend. i knew that it would
>>>> come soon enough and did not feel that she needed to be exposed to
>>>> adult content to encourage such things.
>>>> .... My sons, neither, for that matter.
>>>> But, my niece at 10 is already boy crazy and knows quite a bit about
>>>> sex.
>>>> My nephew, at 12, knows how to break into a house, how one might go
>>>> about killing someone else and which types of guns are used for the
>>>> best results in such matters.
>>>> He has read a book about a guy who has commited suicide and why/how he
>>>> did it.
>>>> What purpose does this serve him at 12?
>>>> i am not saying that we need to shelter our children from real issues
>>>> that plague Americans. But, there is a way to do this without throwing
>>>> them in the deep end and saying: "sink like a baby or swim like a
>>>> man."
>>>> There is nothing wrong with innocence, it doesn't have to mean
>>>> complacency. and, does it really damage the child to wait three or
>>>> four more years before being exposed to such things???  My children
>>>> knew that AIDS (for example) was quite harmful and even at 10-12, they
>>>> knew how one might contract the disease. But, I would not have allowed
>>>> them to read a very rivitting acount of sex, drugs etc from someone
>>>> who had AIDS for them to learn that it was a horrible  disease.  I'm
>>>> not personally saying this about any parents on this list. But, I feel
>>>> that many parents that i know are on a quest to grow up their child as
>>>> quickly as possible.
>>>> We seem to want to hurry them along through the childhood stages, so
>>>> they can become little adults instead of children. We get angry when
>>>> they are developing too slow and we are proud when they develop ahead
>>>> of schedule. "my child knows..." "My child can..."
>>>> Maybe it is a desire for them to be independent and less dependent on
>>>> their parents. Maybe it is a desire for our children to be "the best,"
>>>> and we deem that the "best" is getting somewhere or doing something
>>>> before their peers.
>>>> Whoops, getting off my soapbox!
>>>> Bridgit, the books that we use to think were for High Schoolers, are
>>>> now for junior High Readers. i don't understand it. "to kill a
>>>> Mockingbird," or "native son," which use to be High School reading is
>>>> now for 6-7th graders. i don't think that it should be. If i go any
>>>> further, i'll start talking about "society's desire for
>>>> entertainment," which is becoming more astonishing every day. and,
>>>> Yes, i do feel that in some ways, we are becoming desensitized to the
>>>> effects of such real damaging experiences.  What use to entertain our
>>>> parents at this age, certainly will not suffice for us. We seem to
>>>> always think that newer, bolder and more telling is better.
>>>> But, i am telling you that I am conservative on this point.
>>>> when i read a novel, i don't need to know "blow by blow," or "Thrust
>>>> by thrust," (in the bedroom) to get the gist of what is happening.
>>>> I am not fond of many authors putting a bit more and more erotica in
>>>> their books. i find it demeans the act, itself and the emotions behind
>>>> it. I feel like i am watching porn.
>>>> Did I say that i was conservative ???
>>>> (smile)
>>>> just my own opinion on the subject.
>>>> Rant over.
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:00:11 -0400
> From: "Melissa Ann Riccobono" <melissa at riccobono.us>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
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> Also, I believe very few notes are handwritten these days.  Notes about
> behavior may be, but it would be just as easy to sit down and type a quick
> email about an issue as it would be to write it out by hand.  If things are
> available electronically anyway, I don't think your request is unreasonable
> at all.
> Melissa
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Tammy
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
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> Hi,
>
> This might be more work then email but maybe the teacher could either put a
> note on to a tape, or call you to discuss a note he or she has written?
> Honestly, I don?t know why email would be too much work, teachers use their
> computers all the time for lesson plans etc, and most have email
> capabilities.  My son started grade 1 last year, and the first thing I made
> sure of when I met his teachers  was that they all had my email address, and
> made sure they knew that it was the best way to get in contact with me.  As
> a result, I was in constant communication with Colyn?s teachers last year,
> she even told me what was coming home in Colyn?s backpack if it was printed
> so I?d know what it was.  It?s your right to have complete openness and
> knoledge where your son?s education is concerned, and unlike your dad, I
> don?t think you?re being unreasonable in asking that anything printed be
> emailed to you as well.
>
> hth
>
> Tammy
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> From: Nikki
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
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>         Thanks. I was beginning to agree with my father's attitude.
> But I just need other ideas than email in case the teacher is unable to
> comply.
>
> Veronica, are you saying that Open Book won't read handwritten things?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Hammel
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
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> Your request is not unreasonable.  Ask away.
> Barbara
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nikki
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:12 PM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blparent] school teacher issue
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>         Hi everyone.
> Yes, I am back.
> Looking for insight, wisdom, experience.
>
> I have a little boy going into the first grade on Wednesday, but Monday is a
> ?meet and greet the teacher.?
> Now, When his Kindergarten teacher would send papers home, I could not read
> them.
> I had an idea that would help. The teacher could email them to me.
> I live with my parents and I told my idea to my dad and he said that might
> be too much work for a teacher to do for someone who has the kind of need
> that I have.
> I mean, I?m looking for independence. I don?t want my dad to have to read
> the papers that come home.
>
> If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
> I want to be able to ask the teacher when I meet her on Monday.
> Thanks for all your help and God bless you.
> Nikki
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:03:36 -0400
> From: "Melissa Ann Riccobono" <melissa at riccobono.us>
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] found a great option for changing baby-toddler
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> Really cool.  I would have never thought of a nap pad.  Thanks for sharing.
> If you ever find a dresser, you could probably put the pad on top--unless it
> is slippery on both sides in which case that probably wouldn't be the best
> idea.  You could always sew a rubbery mat to the back of the pad though...
> Something like a thin bath mat, or mats you can get to use in the kitchen so
> things won't slip off the counter would probably work.  You could also glue
> the rubber on the back with fabric glue...  Might work better than sewing.
> Just some thoughts.
> Melissa
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> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Erin Rumer
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 1:13 AM
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> Subject: [blparent] found a great option for changing baby-toddler
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> Hello list,
>
>
>
> I just went to Target tonight and in the back to school section I found a
> nap pad that is water-proof and 19 inches in width and 45 inches long.  It
> is red on one side and blue on the other with a built in pillow.  The nap
> pad also folds up nice and compact so I can put it away when not in use.
> I'll probably end up using it on the floor for changing Dawson's clothes now
> and diapers in the future when he's bigger.  I just wanted to share this
> find with you all since it's a great option for changing older babies and
> toddlers and for only $9.  I'm so excited to use it.  I do have to get on
> the floor after all, but I guess I'll just look at it as my gym time!
> Smiling
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> Erin
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> From: "Melissa Ann Riccobono" <melissa at riccobono.us>
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> I love my frame carrier now, but I'm also short so it took a little getting
> used to.  I would really recommend checking out the carriers in a camping or
> baby store and then trying to find a better deal on line, as so many
> carriers have xdifferent features and might fit you differently depending on
> how they are designed.  Also, both of my kids had no problem napping in our
> frame carrier backpack.  Ours has a five point harness, and where they don't
> look the most comfortable while they are sleeping they are safe.  Actually,
> for whatever reason, my daughter naps most often in the backpack...  It's
> one of the few ways I can get her to nap.  Yes, a stroller would probably be
> more comfortable, but she seems to prefer being up higher so she can look
> around before she falls asleep.
> Good luck!
> Melissa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Brandy W
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 4:04 AM
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> commuting
>
> A fraim carrier is usually for hiking. I don't personally find them
> comfortable but I'm short. They do work for heavier children. You can get
> them at baby stores, or camping stores, and we can't forget the good old
> online shopping places.
>
> Bran
>
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:31:26 -0500
> From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at comcast.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
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> I appreciate all the help, thank you.
> The folder thing was something the Kindergarten teacher did.
> She?d put printed handouts in weekly and there?d be a monthly activity
> calendar, assignments for your child to complete and hand in at the end of
> the month.
> In the beginning of the year, she?d put her classroom expectations, rules,
> ideas on discipline and how she handles behavior, and she?d introduce
> herself, all typed up and in the folder.
> It was a way to keep everything together and if the teacher had something
> new, she?d put it into each child?s folder.
> Rarely did the teacher have handwritten things put in.
>
> My father just has a negative feeling toward the possibility of the
> teacher?s
> accommodations.
> I guess he doesn?t remember when I was in school and he?s not used to me
> being an advocate.
>
> Maybe the new teacher will have some ideas of her own.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melissa Ann Riccobono
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 9:00 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
>
> Also, I believe very few notes are handwritten these days.  Notes about
> behavior may be, but it would be just as easy to sit down and type a quick
> email about an issue as it would be to write it out by hand.  If things are
> available electronically anyway, I don't think your request is unreasonable
> at all.
> Melissa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Tammy
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
>
> Hi,
>
> This might be more work then email but maybe the teacher could either put a
> note on to a tape, or call you to discuss a note he or she has written?
> Honestly, I don?t know why email would be too much work, teachers use their
> computers all the time for lesson plans etc, and most have email
> capabilities.  My son started grade 1 last year, and the first thing I made
> sure of when I met his teachers  was that they all had my email address, and
> made sure they knew that it was the best way to get in contact with me.  As
> a result, I was in constant communication with Colyn?s teachers last year,
> she even told me what was coming home in Colyn?s backpack if it was printed
> so I?d know what it was.  It?s your right to have complete openness and
> knoledge where your son?s education is concerned, and unlike your dad, I
> don?t
> think you?re being unreasonable in asking that anything printed be emailed
> to you as well.
>
> hth
>
> Tammy
>
> From: Nikki
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
>
>         Thanks. I was beginning to agree with my father's attitude.
> But I just need other ideas than email in case the teacher is unable to
> comply.
>
> Veronica, are you saying that Open Book won't read handwritten things?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Hammel
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] school teacher issue
>
> Your request is not unreasonable.  Ask away.
> Barbara
>
>
>
>
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> any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.--John
> F. Kennedy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nikki
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:12 PM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blparent] school teacher issue
>
>         Hi everyone.
> Yes, I am back.
> Looking for insight, wisdom, experience.
>
> I have a little boy going into the first grade on Wednesday, but Monday is a
> ?meet and greet the teacher.?
> Now, When his Kindergarten teacher would send papers home, I could not read
> them.
> I had an idea that would help. The teacher could email them to me.
> I live with my parents and I told my idea to my dad and he said that might
> be too much work for a teacher to do for someone who has the kind of need
> that I have.
> I mean, I?m looking for independence. I don?t want my dad to have to read
> the papers that come home.
>
> If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
> I want to be able to ask the teacher when I meet her on Monday.
> Thanks for all your help and God bless you.
> Nikki
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:17:17 -0400
> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> To: blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] commuting, etc
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> Hi Lisa,
> We have really horrible transportation. Although I live 25mins from
> work -- in the same city, it will take me 90mins to get to work and
> back every morning/evening.
> I've been wondering how to handle a baby and all that we have to manage.
> I saw a woman with a byorn carrier, but I heard that they aren't good
> for baby's pelvis because they put too much weight there.
> And, I heard that they are not good for the back.
> I saw one of those moby baby wraps which sounds quite wonderful.
> But, a good wrap sounds harder to achieve than a doctorate in aeronomics.
>  I tried it once and had to give up.
> I can't imagine trying to wrap with a fussy baby.
> Well, I feel clunky and awkward carrying on my back, especially when
> you have to keep removing, and replacing.
> I have not seen the Beko butterfly carrier, but I want to try it out.
> I have heard about the "--- something Mei " sling, but haven't seen it
> up close, either.
> I'll learn from you guys.
> Thanks.
> sorry I don't have any suggestions or tips, but I am just not there, yet.
>
> Jan
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:24:57 -0400
> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> To: blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] update: preg, ultrasound, etc
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> Hi All,
> Remember, I am 42, now and preg. The docs tried to get me to do
> genetic testing  -- partly, probably because I am an older parent and
> partly because DH and I are both blind.
> mine is not genetic, but he and his sister both have   LCA.
>  I said "no."
> they told me that an ultrasound would tell if there was any
> abnormalities, just to prepare us. We would not have terminated, even
> if there were, so we opted out of the not-so-accurate expensive tests.
> Now,
> I just had my ultrasound at 22wks today. the placenta is between me
> and baby which is why I have not been feeling much movement -- which
> made me worry for a while. i am carrying quite low which explains why
> i still have to go to bathroom often, although research/books say that
> my bladder should be feeling better from the first trimester.
> It was very hard to see the face, the baby was laying in awkward
> positions. But, we did get some good skelital pics. And, the
> ultrasound tech said that i did not need to worry about anything.
> Of course, from a genetic standpoint, the worry was about Downs Syndrome.
> My 80+ yo grandma wanted us to find out the sex because "bless her
> heart," she is making a baby blanket. This is her way of saying that
> she accepts the baby --
> and she has not done this for every baby in the family. I think that
> this is also her way of saying that she accepts my new husband.
> (culture, religion and all).  But, I could be making too  much out of
> it.
> Anyway, if my 80+yo grandma wants to know, then, against my
> obstenance, I'll find out.
> And, I did.
> Let's just say, i have to start seriously looking for good boy
> Pakistani first names that will go well with a good American middle
> name.
>
> the hunt is on.
> and, i was so sure that it would be a girl.
> (smile)
> thanks for reading the long post.
> Jan
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:31:02 -0700
> From: Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com>
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] my delemma and why i need suggestions on
> 	commuting
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> Chad,
>
> Are you talking about the Kelty? If so, which one? I looked into it
> after Erin suggested it. I'm going to see if I can find one to check
> out and possibly order.
>
> My other question is about napping. Erik tends to nap to and from the
> city. Is it impossible or just kind of awkard for Harrison to sleep in
> the back pack?
>
> Thanks,
> LM
>
>
> On 8/11/11, Chad Allen <chad at chadallenmagic.com> wrote:
>> I use a back pack for Harrison. It's got a kick stand so you can take it
>> off
>> for feeding or rest without taking out the child. It has a sun shade and a
>> rain fly. It's got plenty of pockets and it allows your hands to be free
>> for
>> the cane and anything else you may need.
>>
>> It's somewhat weighty but kids get heavy no matter what you do. The
>> kickstand causes the most weight but it's the feature I use most often. We
>> love it!
>>
>> I take him hiking or anywhere else we wish to go in it. The only issue is
>> when Harrison wants to nap. He does rest at times but he's sitting
>> straight
>> up. His body just sort of flops down in it so we stop, take a break and
>> eventually keep moving.
>>
>> So when we walk and he's sleepy before we leave the house, we take out the
>> stroller.
>>
>> I use the stroller rarely but sometimes it's our best option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Lisamaria Martinez, NOMC
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:01 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] my delemma and why i need suggestions on commuting
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So, the carriier is very comfortable. The aches and pains come from the
>> rough environment and my legs or ankles just giving out on me. When I
>> encounter a valley sized crack in the sidewalk I trip but catch myself
>> very
>> quickly and the result of that is sore and knotted leg muscles.
>>
>> The straps on the Butterfly carrier, which is the one I have, are
>> fantastic,
>>
>> just not comfy enough when I have a tension headache that reaches my neck
>> and shoulders.
>>
>> So, I'm shopping around for ideas and solutions.
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jennith Lucas" <nethy.ann at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] my delemma and why i need suggestions on commuting
>>
>>
>>> LM,
>>>
>>> I don't commute with Gideon, but we do a lot of walking and wearing.
>>> It sounds to me like your carrier might not be fitting properly. Could
>>> this be possible? We've started wearing our Gideon on the back, at 8
>>> months, 25 pounds, and 28 inches, but I still am able to wear him on
>>> the front comfortably for long periods of time.
>>>
>>> Your description of how you're feeling sounds EXACTLY how I've felt
>>> when I get a carry that's not quite right. It hurts for days, even if
>>> I take a break from carrying.
>>>
>>> I can't speak to your exact carrier, but I'm pretty certain it's
>>> similar to mine, just buckles where mine has ties.
>>>
>>> My other thought would be maybe you could just use the sling, making
>>> sure to switch shoulders. He sounds like a good size for the ring
>>> sling, though that's not a permanent solution, as I know from
>>> experience. (Gideon is just too big for the my ring sling; however,
>>> when I wore a friend's little boy who is 18 lbs it was wonderful and
>>> easy.)
>>>
>>> I have no suggestions as to stroller, as we haven't bought one since
>>> we stopped using his infant seat/stroller frame set up. However, if
>>> you do think a different carrier would help, I recommend checking out
>>> thebabywearer.com. You have to register for the forum, but people are
>>> very helpful and knowledgeable.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps! It sounds like a rough time for both you guys! Get
>>> lots of rest!!
>>>
>>> Jennith
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Lisamaria Martinez, NOMC
>>> <lmartinez217 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear what other parents are doing who work and commute with
>>>> their kids.
>>>>
>>>> Erik and I commute into the city and back for approximately 4 hours a
>>>> day. It's putting a lot of wear on my body though--especially as he gets
>>>> heavier. He's five and a half months old and about 19 pounds. He's also
>>>> pretty long at somewhere over 26 inches--and, ahhh, he's do for one of
>>>> those major growth spurts since six months is around the corner. Yikes!
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, I use a Beco Butterfly carrier and I love it. Anyone know if
>>>> there is a suggested height limit for front carriers? I carry him in the
>>>> front because I sit for about 45 minutes each way and the whole process
>>>> of switching him from back to front would be really
>>>> combersome--especially during crowded commuting hours. plus, he's a
>>>> major
>>
>>>> drooler and I can't have him drooling all down the back of my work
>>>> clothes every day.
>>>>
>>>> As he gets heavier, I find myself tripping more or stumbling more on the
>>>> terrible streets of San Francisco. The sidewalks are awful, and I twist
>>>> my ankles frequently on the cracks and objects lying in wait.
>>>>
>>>> I've got a City Mini stroller, but the elavators in the BART systems
>>>> often break down and they are pretty gross and dirty to begin with. I've
>>>> got an umbrella stroller I'm consdidering using along with a ring sling.
>>>> So, I have a super light weight stroller to use when I walk and a
>>>> carrier
>>
>>>> to pop him in and out of while on the train. But, using an umbrella
>>>> stroller and a cane is a bit challenging. I gfigured out how to hold my
>>>> cane and one of the handles in my hand, but ouch whenever the tip gets
>>>> in
>>
>>>> a crack!
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions for how I can keep my body bfrom breaking? I'm home
>>>> today
>>
>>>> from work because my shoulder has just had enough and is protesting
>>>> greatly. Also, I get so many headaches that originate in my nexk and
>>>> shoulders and when I wear him, it makes things hurt worse.
>>>>
>>>> So, I know I sound like a crybaby, ha ha, but I'm open for some ideas
>>>> from those who are living it too.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> LM
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:55:29 -0500
> From: "Brandy W" <branlw at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] commuting, etc
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> The Ergo is also like the Beco, and many like it more because it doesn't
> have extra combersum pieces.
>
> Bran
>
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Regarding the Moby Wrap, I know it looks complicated to do. I honestly
never thought I'd figure out how to do it well. For me, it was one of
those things I had to keep practicing with and having someone show me
how to do. After about four or five times, the way to do it clicked
into place in my brain and I realized itt's a great carrier. I haven't
tried it for a while now with Abby, who's a 21-month-old now, but I
think it might still work even now when she's tired and fussy. It
turned out to be terrific when she was smaller but had outgrown the
Baby Bjorn carrier I had.

Jen




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