[blparent] breastfeeding help

Erin Rumer erinrumer at gmail.com
Tue Apr 17 00:24:35 UTC 2012


I agree whole heartedly Gabe.  I find myself defending rood and attacking
comments that some say and it's sad because we should all be trying to help
one another and not looking to go to battle.  I need to just completely
ignore the inappropriate comments, but I find myself worrying that someone
is going to take something that was said out of line as fact.  We're all
adults and I can't worry about that any more.  Let's all try to do our best
to lift each other up in support and not go to odds.

Erin 

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gabe Vega
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:19 PM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help

my concern is that we have a pattern of a user or two of this list always
sparking something or at least pushing it to the brink and then we all sit
back deep breathe and say sorry and move on, I think this list is a support
system and should be treated as such not for some one's person Doctor Laura
style advise email list.

I have an 11 year old child that I would and could give a wealth of
information as a parent who has put her through kinder, 1st all the way
through 5th grade and all the things that go along with it. such as field
trips, meetings, behavior issues etc, but how can I feel comfortable
contribute when its at the brink of war out here like once a week.

Sure I know you would ask so then why do you stick around if I see this, and
the truth is because I want to help. I was once a new parent, I was in you
all's shoes and it felt lonely. I don't want a newly blind parent to feel
that way.


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On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Kate McEachern wrote:

> I know, I asked a quesstion and now I am thinking it could unententionly
start a war.  I'm shutting up because I said my peace and don't want to be
an uhnententional catelist.
> 
> Kate
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" 
> <jopinto at msn.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
> 
> 
>> Careful.  It looks like this is going to turn into another war, neither
of you are taking much consideration with each other's feelings.
>> 
>> My lactation consultant, who was absolutely outstanding, also told me
that nipple confusion was mostly an old wives' tale.  She said she could
count the number of times she'd seen it in her practice on one hand.  My
baby switched back and forth from breast to bottle on nearly a daily basis
for ten months because that was the only way I could do any nursing at all,
and she never had trouble adjusting to either feeding method.  I'm not
putting my opinion in anywhere--at least not in this paragraph, it's all
what I was told directly or what I experienced.
>> 
>> Please don't make this into another list battle.
>> 
>> Jo Elizabeth
>> 
>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and 
>> tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you 
>> will have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, 
>> American scientist
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:52 PM
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>> 
>>> Tammy, you can find any junk on the internet if you're looking for 
>>> it so I wouldn't call that a reliable resource.  As for your 
>>> lactation nurse telling you that nipple confusion isn't real, that's 
>>> the first I've ever heard of a nurse doing that.  Shame on her for 
>>> giving you false medical info and merely bestowing her opinion on 
>>> you.  That was unprofessional of her.  I've seen nipple confusion 
>>> happen with some of my friends kids right before my very eyes.  I 
>>> think the key is that if you want a baby to be good with both the 
>>> bottle and breast then introduce one bottle a day and they will 
>>> except it much more than if you try this later on.  It also helps
tremendously to have daddy or someone else give this bottle so it doesn't
further confuse baby.
>>> 
>>> Erin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tammy
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:41 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've had 3 children and all have been breast and bottle fed, and all 
>>> are doing just fine.  My 10 month old is still doing both quite 
>>> happily.  So in the case of nipple confusion, my doctor, my obgyy, 
>>> my public health nurse, and my lactation consultants, 2 of them, not 
>>> just 1 have debunked the nipple confusion theory.  So experience 
>>> will proove to be the best educator here along with instincts, which 
>>> you'll have when you've been a parent for as long as I've been one.  
>>> But, I don't know half of what I'd like to about the subject of 
>>> parenting, which is why I'm here. Oh and as to the nursing and 
>>> stopping and bottle feeding and then nursing again after a time?  Do 
>>> a google search!  I'm sure you're familiar with one of those.  smile
>>> 
>>> Tammy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Erin Rumer
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:11 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Tammy, where are you getting your facts from on this subject and on 
>>> the whole nipple confusion thing.  Very respected lactation 
>>> specialists have educated me on these subjects and I think I'm going 
>>> to go with what the pros say.  Besides, I've seen babies have nipple 
>>> confusion and mothers dry up within just a few days of completely 
>>> weaning their babies so, the proof is in the pudding so to speak.
>>> 
>>> Erin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tammy
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:08 AM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Her situation isn't rare at all.  If a woman is already breast 
>>> feeding and stops for any lenth of time up to about 3 months I think 
>>> it's proven to be, she can start  nursing again.  It takes 8 to 12 
>>> weeks for the milk to stop being produced by the body and even 
>>> longer for the hormlne to stop being produced and the woman to "dry up."
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Tammy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Erin Rumer
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:16 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Hello Allie,
>>> 
>>> I honestly have never ever heard an actual testimony from a mom who 
>>> has been able to do what you did and your situation is beyond rare.  
>>> The body is amazing and I have heard of outstanding situations where 
>>> if someone is mentally motivated and convinced enough that they can 
>>> begin lactating it has been done in extremely rare cases.  There 
>>> have even been women who have never had a baby who can begin 
>>> lactating because they're convinced that they are pregnant and thus 
>>> the hormones begin to trick the body.  I'm glad in your case that 
>>> you were able to do this for your daughter but I definitely don't 
>>> want people to think that they can do what you were able to do 
>>> because your situation was extra ordinary and rare.  Thanks for sharing
that though, it's interesting.
>>> 
>>> Erin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Allie
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:11 AM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Good advice, Erin, but I have to disagree with your statement about 
>>> not being able to start again. *SMILE* I started nursing my daughter 
>>> after she'd been off the breast for almost two months due to 
>>> complications with gall bladder surgery. It didn't happen without 
>>> some effort and patience on my part, but it happened. :) Baby is the
best stimulus for your milk supply.
>>> Even if you have to give her a bottle first, so she's not terribly 
>>> hungry when you put her to your breast, and nurse her for comfort, 
>>> that will help tremendously.
>>> If you're still willing to stick with it, try taking her somewhere 
>>> she isn't so easily distracted. Offer the breast frequently. The phase
will pass.
>>> *SMILE*
>>> 
>>> Allie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Erin Rumer
>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:24 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Hello Sabrina,
>>> 
>>> Since your little girl is still so young I'd encourage you to 
>>> continue nursing her as much as possible but if you can't after 
>>> really giving it a while, pumping and giving her the formula in 
>>> bottles as her nutritional fluid intake is key.  This also may just 
>>> be a phase and you'd hate to stop nursing and find that she wants to 
>>> nurse normally again next week or so. It could be that she's just 
>>> board or distracted with other things going on around you so try 
>>> stepping away with her and make nursing special mommy-baby bonding 
>>> time where it's just you and her and no other stimulation.  Sing 
>>> songs and talk quietly to her during this time and she will more 
>>> than likely love this time and look forward to it very much.  Since 
>>> you are feeding with bottles a decent amount it could also just be 
>>> that she's having a bit of nipple confusion and-or just being kind 
>>> of lazy on the breast since it takes more work for her to get the 
>>> milk out.  This sucking stimulates proper development of the jaw and 
>>> pallet and prevents ear infections amongst many other benefits, so I 
>>> encourage you to continue nursing as long as you can with your 
>>> daughter.  At least try to get her to a year if you can because even 
>>> though she's eating solids now, she needs lots of fluid and your 
>>> milk will be best for that.  The breast milk also aids in digestion 
>>> of those solids your daughter's eating and she'll have less bouts of
constipation than if she wasn't drinking your breast milk at all.  Just
remember that once you stop nursing you can't start up again so make the
most of it.
>>> 
>>> Best to you and please keep us posted with how it's going.
>>> 
>>> Erin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sabrina Giles
>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:08 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] breastfeeding help
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> So, this question is for those of y'all who have nursed.  I have 
>>> noticed since Cheyenne has been on solids she hasn't had much interest
in nursing.
>>> She'll latch on, and after like ten seconds she'll stop nursing.  
>>> I've started pumping my milk and giving it in bottles for some 
>>> feedings and formula for others when I don't pump enough to satisfy her.
>>> 
>>> How can I stop producing milk altogether?  It would seem to me that 
>>> as long as I pump I will keep producing milk.. But like I said that 
>>> is my only choice since she seems to not be interested in nursing .
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thankis,
>>> 
>>> Sabrina
>>> 
>>> 
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