[blparent] Rude people and now unschooling too

Mon Aug 20 19:57:37 UTC 2012

Rhonda, I hope you don't feel that my message was rude, since the way I saw 
it, we had resolved our differences.  I think your quotes would be more 
effective delivered one at a time, and changed frequently.  It's difficult 
to take so many in at once.  But your signature is your business.  Now that 
your replies are at the top, I can just read the messages and skip the 
signature quotes altogether.

As for unschooling, I'm really interested in how one would go about doing 
it.  Some things tend to lend themselves to play-based learning.  For 
example, Sarah and I have gone on math picnics, where we practiced addition 
and subtraction as we ate finger foods.  We've acted out Little Red Riding 
Hood and the Three Little Pigs, and talked about alternate endings.  We've 
done some craft projects, although crafts aren't exactly my forte.  But I'm 
interested to know how you would be able to teach to the satisfaction of 
your state requirements.  Kids have to be tested periodically, right?  I'm 
not saying it can't be done, or trying to get anybody devensive.  I really 
am curious.

Jo Elizabeth

I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's 
brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and 
died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
-----Original Message----- 
From: Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:49 AM
To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blparent] Rude people and now unschooling too

Rhonda, perhaps you could clarify about which messages you found to be rude?
I will admit that I did hit reply to one of your earlier messages with the
intent to tell you that as an American I would be exercising my right not to
scroll through so many messages to get to the actual message as my time on
line is limited. I did not send it as I decided to check the messages that
others had sent and discovered you needed some help with your email
settings. I do not recall anything that seemed rude, but perceptions may
vary, and I may have missed something.

Your quotes are very interesting, but who are they for? I agree with the
ones I actually read, but even so I scrolled through the majority. You might
find it more effective to share your message with only one quote at a time.
You may, of course, do as you like.

I think you might have an interesting view point to bring to the list. I do
not expect that we will regularly agree with each others decisions, but
based on your quotes, I would assume you would appreciate those differences
and the discussions they may provoke.

I would also like to know more about your views on unschooling. From my
understanding of that methodology, I am unclear as to the reason you
identify yourself as beginning pre-k. I have for various reasons home
schooled and made use of the public school system, and am always interested
in various educational philosophies.

Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rhonda Lewis-Kubehl
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:04 PM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: [blparent] Rude people

All I asked was a question on how to change settings, etc, not expecting
rude responses from certain people.
It doesn't bother me that certain people don't read my messages because
of my quotes.
I have rights to have what I please as my signature.
This is why I try to stay away from Blind Parenting groups, etc, and I
only joined this one because a friend asked me to do so.
I don't even think I'm on the blind home schooler group anymore due to
rude people...and I'm not sure if I would be staying on this one for the
same reasons.

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The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along
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What luck for rulers that men do not think.
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a religion of humanity. The classroom must and will become an arena of
conflict between the old & the new, the rotting corpse of Christianity with
all its adjacent evils & misery, and the new faith.
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Parents give up their rights when they drop the children off at public
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The end cannot justify the means for the simple and obvious reason that the
means employed determine the nature of the ends produced.
~ Aldous Huxley

Trying to get more learning out of the present system is like trying to get
the Pony Express to compete with the telegraph by breeding faster ponies. ~
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If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the
opposite direction.
~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer

School is the advertising agency which makes you believe that you need the
society as it is.
~ Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society

The plain fact is that education is itself a form of propaganda - a
deliberate scheme to outfit the pupil, not with the capacity to weigh ideas,
but with a simple appetite for gulping ideas ready-made. The aim is to make
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~ H. L. Mencken

You are in the process of being indoctrinated. We have not yet evolved a
system of education that is not a system of indoctrination. We are sorry,
but it is the best we can do. What you are being taught here is an amalgam
of current prejudice and the choices of this particular culture. The
slightest look at history will show how impermanent these must be. You are
being taught by people who have been able to accommodate themselves to a
regime of thought laid down by their predecessors. It is a self-perpetuating
system. Those of you who are more robust and individual than others, will be
encouraged to leave and find ways of educating yourself - educating your own
judgment. Those that stay must remember, always and all the time, that they
are being moulded and patterned to fit into the narrow and particular needs
of this society.
~ Doris Lessing

Far from failing in its intended task, our educational system is in fact
succeeding magnificently because its aim is to keep the American people
thoughtless enough to go on supporting the system.
~ Richard Mitchell, The Underground Grammarian

When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other.
~ Eric Hoffer

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You can fool too many of the people too much of the time.
~ James Thurber

The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher
esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
~ Friedrich Nietzsche

What we think about when we are free to think about what we will - that is
what we are or will soon become.
~ A.W. Tozer

The idea of learning acceptable social skills in a school is as absurd to me
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Fashion is an induced epidemic.
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Like its politicians and its war, society has the teenagers it deserves.
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They are slaves who will not choose
Hatred, scoffing and abuse,
Rather than in silence shrink
>From the truth they needs must think.
They are slaves who dare not be
In the right with two or three.
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