[blparent] My son's teacher

Leslie Hamric lhamric930 at comcast.net
Mon Feb 6 05:39:29 UTC 2012 

Hi Nikki.  Why not use both the medicine and Jesus if that what works for you?  In my opinion, one method is not necessarily better than the other.  Right now, you want to do whatever you need to do to get your son back on track here.  You could ask God to help you find the right solutions. They may take long to find, but you may have to pursue multiple options.  I think that's what Jo Elizabeth was saying, to check out multiple resources and options.  I suspect she wasn't trying to attack your spiritual beliefs.
Leslie

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikki [mailto:daizies304 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:43 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher

    Yes I know they are chemical. But you seem to forget that Jesus Christ can handle ANYTHING! I believe in that and this doesn't mean I have a cclosed mind. I believe with all my heart that Jesus is the healer and not worldly medicine. That's me and not you, so I'm going to leave it at that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jo Elizabeth Pinto
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:15 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher

ADD and ADHD are medical issues, not spiritual ones.  They are chemical imbalances in the brain, physical problems.  They have nothing to do with whether or not you believe in Jesus Christ.  They may be overdiagnosed, but they are very real disorders  Discounting them is dangerous, and by not keeping an open mind, you will be doing a great disservice to your child.
Not every parent, not even most parents, whose children are on medications for ADD or ADHD are lazy, or unwilling or unable to discipline.

On a similar note, not every child, not even most children, who act out in the classroom are gifted.  The nature of the word gifted means that a child is on an entirely different level than others of his age.  If you ask if your child is gifted, he probably isn't.  He may be smart, he may not be challenged enough, but that's probably not the reason he is acting out.
I've seen teachers get a bad rap way too many times because they're getting blamed for every kid who can't sit still or keep his hands to himself.  Give it some thought.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher

>        Gifted or not, I will NOT let some medical proffessional say 
> that my kid is ADHD or ADD. I do not take medical issues of the world. 
> I know and believe there is only 1 answer to this, Jesus Christ. No 
> one is going to tell me otherwise. I don't care who they think they are.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kate McEachern
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:10 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher
>
> This is true, parents may have an idea their child is gifted but you 
> have to have him evaluated by a profetional to know for shore.  A lot 
> of signs of giftednes are the same signs people look at for ADHD, ADD 
> and other ishues.
> And, just because a child is labled gifted doesn't meen things just 
> fall in to place.  Its a lot of work to be a parent of a gifted child 
> and as exciting as it is it can also be tiring.  Plus you have to do 
> all the medical stuff as well and they don't let you opt out, if they 
> want a scan of your kids brain you have to get it.  If they want to 
> intervew your kid out of our sight they will.  Because there are a lot 
> of people who train their kids to pass these tests thinking their kid 
> will get an edg on the rest but that isn't the case.
>
> So if you think he's gifted be ready to say your pease comly, and know 
> that they do ask about how things are at home.  Its not one docter, 
> its a team.
>
> I'll poest the links I have when I get time to but I read this wile 
> looking for something so I can't do it now but will try for this week.
>
> Kate
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher
>
>
>> Well, if you contact the school counselor, they could evaluate him 
>> for giftedness.  The teachers don't always know best. They have too  
>> many children to keep their eyes on, so let an expert evaluate him.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:00 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher
>>
>>    Hi V. No. I'm not spanking because I'm frustrated. I feel like if 
>> I don't, my parents will. That makes me mad they think their tactic 
>> is what works. I don't think it's working because there's no 
>> improvement. Today, we went to the store to get new pants for school, 
>> uniform, and he seemed fine, but my mom could tell you different. I 
>> really believe it's the lack of physical activity. After he came home 
>> from the store, papa took him for a walk. IDK if he's even home yet. 
>> I've considered the school counselor.
>> But I
>> want to get feedback from his teacher first. I strongly believe he's 
>> just gifted and the school and my parents think it's bad behavior.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Veronica Smith
>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:30 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] My son's teacher
>>
>> Nikki, just one question, are you spanking him because you are 
>> frustrated?
>> Does the spanking help?  I still think you should make an appointment 
>> with the school counselor to talk about ideas of  helping his 
>> behavior.  You are not the first parent to go through this, I 
>> guarantee and if they tell you differently, they are lying to you.  
>> My daughter is in 6th grade now and in everyone of her classes since 
>> Kindergarten, there has been children with the same problems as your 
>> son.  Some parents just choose to ignore it and thus the child 
>> continues acting up throughout the years and some parents take the 
>> bull by the horn and get it corrected, either through counseling or 
>> through medication.  Beating the wiggles out will not stop the 
>> problem as he probly truly can't help it.
>> Perhaps it could be corrected by diet.  You won't know until you 
>> explore different avenues.
>> V
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nikki
>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:39 PM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] My son's teacher
>>
>>    Here’s what my son’s teacher says...
>>
>> He is having a very difficult time settling down and staying on his 
>> chair.
>> He also seems to be having a harder time keeping his hands to himself 
>> and staying on task. He is being challenged at an appropriate level, 
>> but is having a hard time staying focused enough to complete his 
>> tasks. He is often out of his seat. It is pretty much throughout the 
>> day. He gets along with people although they do not like it when he 
>> distracts them when they are working or pushed them on the 
>> playground. What is his behavior like at home and the level of 
>> activity? I always tie privileges to school notes. I don't like 
>> yelling and didn't spank. Let me know how he does at home and lets 
>> email some more after that.
>>
>>
>> I don’t know what I could have done or not do to cause him to act 
>> this way.
>> I’m distraught and don’t know how to answer this. I don’t know what 
>> to do as far as if I should punish him and how . I’ve got someone 
>> telling me “spare the rod, spoil the child,” spank him. the teacher 
>> saying she doesn’t spank, and then my parents are saying “well we 
>> don’t spank you enough.” Right now I’ve got him in his room. I don’t 
>> know what he’s doing, but ugh! he just came to me and said, “I misss 
>> you.” He tried pulling that on me when I was spanking him or trying 
>> to. He resists and sits on his butt and I’m not strong enough to turn 
>> him over so I slap what I can. He makes me so mad but at the same 
>> time I want to cry.
>>
>> IDK. Just venting. You can comment if you want.
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