[blparent] Why French Parents Are Superior (article)

Tue Feb 7 03:03:52 UTC 2012

I think so. Ha ha

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It's a man thing.  I've noticed that same voice with Sarah's dad.  Maybe
there's a look that goes along with it.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all of
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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> Jo elizabeth, thanks for the article. It was quite interesting.  This 
> is exactly how my husband is, strict.  His voice is anyway.  When I 
> used to say things like don't, she would test her independence but 
> when my husband said the same word, she'd not take any chances that 
> dad was kidding. V
>
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> Why French Parents Are Superior
> by Pamela Druckerman
>
> Pamela Druckerman's new book "Bringing Up Bebe," catalogs her 
> observations about why French children seem so much better behaved 
> than their American counterparts. She talks with WSJ's Gary Rosen 
> about the lessons of French parenting techniques.
>
> When my daughter was 18 months old, my husband and I decided to take 
> her on a little summer holiday. We picked a coastal town that's a few 
> hours by train from Paris, where we were living (I'm American, he's 
> British), and booked a hotel room with a crib. Bean, as we call her, 
> was our only child at this point, so forgive us for thinking: How hard 
> could it be?
>
>
>
> We ate breakfast at the hotel, but we had to eat lunch and dinner at 
> the little seafood restaurants around the old port. We quickly 
> discovered that having two restaurant meals a day with a toddler 
> deserved to be its own circle of hell.
>
> Bean would take a brief interest in the food, but within a few minutes 
> she was spilling salt shakers and tearing apart sugar packets. Then 
> she demanded to be sprung from her high chair so she could dash around 
> the restaurant and bolt dangerously toward the docks.
>
>
> Our strategy was to finish the meal quickly. We ordered while being 
> seated, then begged the server to rush out some bread and bring us our 
> appetizers and main courses at the same time. While my husband took a 
> few bites of fish, I made sure that Bean didn't get kicked by a waiter 
> or lost at sea.
> Then we switched. We left enormous, apologetic tips to compensate for 
> the arc of torn napkins and calamari around our table.
>
>
>
> After a few more harrowing restaurant visits, I started noticing that 
> the French families around us didn't look like they were sharing our 
> mealtime agony. Weirdly, they looked like they were on vacation. 
> French toddlers were sitting contentedly in their high chairs, waiting 
> for their food, or eating fish and even vegetables. There was no 
> shrieking or whining. And there was no debris around their tables.
>
> Though by that time I'd lived in France for a few years, I couldn't 
> explain this. And once I started thinking about French parenting, I 
> realized it wasn't just mealtime that was different. I suddenly had 
> lots of questions.
> Why was it, for example, that in the hundreds of hours I'd clocked at 
> French playgrounds, I'd never seen a child (except my own) throw a 
> temper tantrum?
> Why didn't my French friends ever need to rush off the phone because 
> their kids were demanding something? Why hadn't their living rooms 
> been taken over by teepees and toy kitchens, the way ours had?
>
>
>
> French Lessons
>
>  a.. Children should say hello, goodbye, thank you and please. It 
> helps them to learn that they aren't the only ones with feelings and
needs.
>  b.. When they misbehave, give them the "big eyes"-a stern look of 
> admonishment.
>  c.. Allow only one snack a day. In France, it's at 4 or 4:30.
>  d.. Remind them (and yourself) who's the boss. French parents say, 
> "It's me who decides."
>  e.. Don't be afraid to say "no." Kids have to learn how to cope with 
> some frustration.
>
> Soon it became clear to me that quietly and en masse, French parents 
> were achieving outcomes that created a whole different atmosphere for 
> family life. When American families visited our home, the parents 
> usually spent much of the visit refereeing their kids' spats, helping 
> their toddlers do laps around the kitchen island, or getting down on 
> the floor to build Lego villages. When French friends visited, by 
> contrast, the grownups had coffee and the children played happily by 
> themselves.
>
> By the end of our ruined beach holiday, I decided to figure out what 
> French parents were doing differently. Why didn't French children 
> throw food? And why weren't their parents shouting? Could I change my 
> wiring and get the same results with my own offspring?
>
>
>
> Driven partly by maternal desperation, I have spent the last several 
> years investigating French parenting. And now, with Bean 6 years old 
> and twins who are 3, I can tell you this: The French aren't perfect, 
> but they have some parenting secrets that really do work.
>
>
>
> I first realized I was on to something when I discovered a 2009 study, 
> led by economists at Princeton, comparing the child-care experiences 
> of similarly situated mothers in Columbus, Ohio, and Rennes, France. 
> The researchers found that American moms considered it more than twice 
> as unpleasant to deal with their kids. In a different study by the 
> same economists, working mothers in Texas said that even housework was 
> more pleasant than child care.
>
>
> Rest assured, I certainly don't suffer from a pro-France bias. Au 
> contraire, I'm not even sure that I like living here. I certainly 
> don't want my kids growing up to become sniffy Parisians.
>
>
>
> But for all its problems, France is the perfect foil for the current 
> problems in American parenting. Middle-class French parents (I didn't 
> follow the very rich or poor) have values that look familiar to me. 
> They are zealous about talking to their kids, showing them nature and 
> reading them lots of books. They take them to tennis lessons, painting 
> classes and interactive science museums.
>
> Yet the French have managed to be involved with their families without 
> becoming obsessive. They assume that even good parents aren't at the 
> constant service of their children, and that there is no need to feel 
> guilty about this. "For me, the evenings are for the parents," one 
> Parisian mother told me. "My daughter can be with us if she wants, but 
> it's adult time."
> French parents want their kids to be stimulated, but not all the time. 
> While
> some American toddlers are getting Mandarin tutors and preliteracy 
> training, French kids are-by design-toddling around by themselves.
>
>
>
> I'm hardly the first to point out that middle-class America has a 
> parenting problem. This problem has been painstakingly diagnosed, 
> critiqued and
> named:
> overparenting, hyperparenting, helicopter parenting, and my personal 
> favorite, the kindergarchy. Nobody seems to like the relentless, 
> unhappy pace of American parenting, least of all parents themselves.
>
>
> Delphine Porcher with daughter Pauline. The family's daily rituals are 
> an apprenticeship in learning to wait.
>
> Of course, the French have all kinds of public services that help to 
> make having kids more appealing and less stressful. Parents don't have 
> to pay for preschool, worry about health insurance or save for 
> college. Many get monthly cash allotments-wired directly into their 
> bank accounts-just for having kids.
>
> But these public services don't explain all of the differences. The 
> French, I found, seem to have a whole different framework for raising 
> kids. When I asked French parents how they disciplined their children, 
> it took them a few beats just to understand what I meant. "Ah, you 
> mean how do we educate them?" they asked. "Discipline," I soon 
> realized, is a narrow, seldom-used notion that deals with punishment. 
> Whereas "educating" (which has nothing to do with school) is something 
> they imagined themselves to be doing all the time.
>
> One of the keys to this education is the simple act of learning how to 
> wait.
> It is why the French babies I meet mostly sleep through the night from 
> two or three months old. Their parents don't pick them up the second 
> they start crying, allowing the babies to learn how to fall back 
> asleep. It is also why French toddlers will sit happily at a 
> restaurant. Rather than snacking all day like American children, they 
> mostly have to wait until mealtime to eat.
> (French kids consistently have three meals a day and one snack around 
> 4
> p.m.)
>
> One Saturday I visited Delphine Porcher, a pretty labor lawyer in her 
> mid-30s who lives with her family in the suburbs east of Paris. When I 
> arrived, her husband was working on his laptop in the living room, 
> while 1-year-old Aubane napped nearby. Pauline, their 3-year-old, was 
> sitting at the kitchen table, completely absorbed in the task of 
> plopping cupcake batter into little wrappers. She somehow resisted the 
> temptation to eat the batter.
>
> Delphine said that she never set out specifically to teach her kids 
> patience. But her family's daily rituals are an ongoing apprenticeship 
> in how to delay gratification. Delphine said that she sometimes bought 
> Pauline candy. (Bonbons are on display in most bakeries.) But Pauline 
> wasn't allowed to eat the candy until that day's snack, even if it 
> meant waiting many hours.
>
>
> When Pauline tried to interrupt our conversation, Delphine said, "Just 
> wait two minutes, my little one. I'm in the middle of talking." It was 
> both very polite and very firm. I was struck both by how sweetly 
> Delphine said it and by how certain she seemed that Pauline would obey 
> her. Delphine was also teaching her kids a related skill: learning to 
> play by themselves. "The most important thing is that he learns to be 
> happy by himself," she said of her son, Aubane.
>
> It's a skill that French mothers explicitly try to cultivate in their 
> kids more than American mothers do. In a 2004 study on the parenting 
> beliefs of college-educated mothers in the U.S. and France, the 
> American moms said that encouraging one's child to play alone was of 
> average importance. But the French moms said it was very important.
>
> Later, I emailed Walter Mischel, the world's leading expert on how 
> children learn to delay gratification. As it happened, Mr. Mischel, 80 
> years old and a professor of psychology at Columbia University, was in 
> Paris, staying at his longtime girlfriend's apartment. He agreed to 
> meet me for coffee.
>
> Mr. Mischel is most famous for devising the "marshmallow test" in the 
> late 1960s when he was at Stanford. In it, an experimenter leads a 4- 
> or 5-year-old into a room where there is a marshmallow on a table. The 
> experimenter tells the child he's going to leave the room for a little 
> while, and that if the child doesn't eat the marshmallow until he 
> comes back, he'll be rewarded with two marshmallows. If he eats the 
> marshmallow, he'll get only that one.
>
> Most kids could only wait about 30 seconds. Only one in three resisted 
> for the full 15 minutes that the experimenter was away. The trick, the 
> researchers found, was that the good delayers were able to distract 
> themselves.
>
> Following up in the mid-1980s, Mr. Mischel and his colleagues found 
> that the good delayers were better at concentrating and reasoning, and 
> didn't "tend to go to pieces under stress," as their report said.
>
> Could it be that teaching children how to delay gratification-as 
> middle-class French parents do-actually makes them calmer and more 
> resilient? Might this partly explain why middle-class American kids, 
> who are in general more used to getting what they want right away, so 
> often fall apart under stress?
>
> Mr. Mischel, who is originally from Vienna, hasn't performed the 
> marshmallow test on French children. But as a longtime observer of 
> France, he said that he was struck by the difference between French 
> and American kids. In the U.S., he said, "certainly the impression one 
> has is that self-control has gotten increasingly difficult for kids."
>
> American parents want their kids to be patient, of course. We 
> encourage our kids to share, to wait their turn, to set the table and 
> to practice the piano. But patience isn't a skill that we hone quite 
> as assiduously as French parents do. We tend to view whether kids are 
> good at waiting as a matter of temperament. In our view, parents 
> either luck out and get a child who waits well or they don't.
>
> French parents and caregivers find it hard to believe that we are so 
> laissez-faire about this crucial ability. When I mentioned the topic 
> at a dinner party in Paris, my French host launched into a story about 
> the year he lived in Southern California.
>
> He and his wife had befriended an American couple and decided to spend 
> a weekend away with them in Santa Barbara. It was the first time 
> they'd met each other's kids, who ranged in age from about 7 to 15. 
> Years later, they still remember how the American kids frequently 
> interrupted the adults in midsentence. And there were no fixed 
> mealtimes; the American kids just went to the refrigerator and took 
> food whenever they wanted. To the French couple, it seemed like the 
> American kids were in charge.
>
> "What struck us, and bothered us, was that the parents never said 'no,' "
> the husband said. The children did "n'importe quoi," his wife added.
>
> After a while, it struck me that most French descriptions of American 
> kids include this phrase "n'importe quoi," meaning "whatever" or 
> "anything they like." It suggests that the American kids don't have 
> firm boundaries, that their parents lack authority, and that anything 
> goes. It's the antithesis of the French ideal of the cadre, or frame, 
> that French parents often talk about. Cadre means that kids have very 
> firm limits about certain things-that's the frame-and that the parents 
> strictly enforce these. But inside the cadre, French parents entrust 
> their kids with quite a lot of freedom and autonomy.
>
> Authority is one of the most impressive parts of French parenting-and 
> perhaps the toughest one to master. Many French parents I meet have an 
> easy, calm authority with their children that I can only envy. Their 
> kids actually listen to them. French children aren't constantly 
> dashing off, talking back, or engaging in prolonged negotiations.
>
> One Sunday morning at the park, my neighbor Frédérique witnessed me 
> trying to cope with my son Leo, who was then 2 years old. Leo did 
> everything quickly, and when I went to the park with him, I was in 
> constant motion, too. He seemed to regard the gates around play areas 
> as merely an invitation to exit.
>
> Frédérique had recently adopted a beautiful redheaded 3-year-old from 
> a Russian orphanage. At the time of our outing, she had been a mother 
> for all of three months. Yet just by virtue of being French, she 
> already had a whole different vision of authority than I did-what was 
> possible and pas possible.
>
> Frédérique and I were sitting at the perimeter of the sandbox, trying 
> to talk. But Leo kept dashing outside the gate surrounding the 
> sandbox. Each time, I got up to chase him, scold him, and drag him 
> back while he screamed.
> At first, Frédérique watched this little ritual in silence. Then, 
> without any condescension, she said that if I was running after Leo 
> all the time, we wouldn't be able to indulge in the small pleasure of 
> sitting and chatting for a few minutes.
>
> "That's true," I said. "But what can I do?" Frédérique said I should 
> be sterner with Leo. In my mind, spending the afternoon chasing Leo 
> was inevitable. In her mind, it was pas possible.
>
> I pointed out that I'd been scolding Leo for the last 20 minutes. 
> Frédérique
> smiled. She said that I needed to make my "no" stronger and to really 
> believe in it. The next time Leo tried to run outside the gate, I said 
> "no"
> more sharply than usual. He left anyway. I followed and dragged him back.
> "You see?" I said. "It's not possible."
>
> Frédérique smiled again and told me not to shout but rather to speak 
> with more conviction. I was scared that I would terrify him. "Don't
worry,"
> Frederique said, urging me on.
>
> Leo didn't listen the next time either. But I gradually felt my "nos" 
> coming
> from a more convincing place. They weren't louder, but they were more 
> self-assured. By the fourth try, when I was finally brimming with 
> conviction, Leo approached the gate but-miraculously-didn't open it. 
> He looked back and eyed me warily. I widened my eyes and tried to look 
> disapproving.
>
> After about 10 minutes, Leo stopped trying to leave altogether. He 
> seemed to forget about the gate and just played in the sandbox with 
> the other kids.
> Soon Frédérique and I were chatting, with our legs stretched out in 
> front of us. I was shocked that Leo suddenly viewed me as an authority 
> figure.
>
> "See that," Frédérique said, not gloating. "It was your tone of voice." 
> She
> pointed out that Leo didn't appear to be traumatized. For the 
> moment-and possibly for the first time ever-he actually seemed like a
French child.
>
>
>
> -Adapted from "Bringing Up Bébé: One American Mother Discovers the 
> Wisdom of French Parenting," to be published Tuesday by the Penguin 
> Press.
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> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and 
> tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will 
> have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, 
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