[blparent] strollers

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"Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:

A sit and stroll is a carseat with wheels on the bottom. When it's in the car, the wheels retract into the base. When it's in stroller mode, it's a stroller.
It is easy to pull, though it feels very leightweight and like it will roll over. Know that it's designed to also go in cars so if it can withstand that, then you pulling it is not a problem even if it does tip.
You do need a lot of upper body strength to pull the wheels down, because you are lifting the weight of the carseat including the weight of your child off the ground. Ditto for retracting the wheels.

It's a nice invention.

As for a leash, I'd highly recommend one if you need or want your child to stand or walk independently. They just don't have the mental ability to stand still for a good long while.
Your parents may have kept your brother ina stroller until he began to protest or until they needed it for another kid which may explain their suggestion.
With my daughter, I'd hold her hand while also using the leash and talk to her about basic safety, the drivers in the cars can't see you because you are too little, cars drive on the street, people go on the sidewalk. We hold hands when we walk, we listen for traffic and to what's going on around us, stuff like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisamaria Martinez
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 4:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers

Hi!

so glad I read this post. Erik has just started to take a few
stumbling steps and it is a pretty amazing thing. I never knew I could
be so proud of a few steps. anyways, looks like we'll be getting him a
leash or two for his upcoming birthday. I didn't even think about a
leash being useful when they are just starting to toddle around. My
parents used one for my little brother but they didn't start using it
until he was about two.

Also, I know it has been described on this list before but what
exactly is a sit and stroll?

thanks,
LM

On 2/3/12, Kate McEachern <kflsouth at gmail.com> wrote:
> If the child is like under two the sit n strole is good because it can be a
> car seet so no taking the kid out.
>
> Kate
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
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>
>> As a follow-up to this post, you deffinately want a leash when your kid
>> learns to stand and walk. There will be a period where they can walk and
>> run and stand and do so pretty well, but will have the attention span of a
>>
>> gnat and an impulse control of 0. They also don't have the language
>> ability to know what you mean when you tell them to stand still.
>> This will all come eventually, and sooner then you think, but a leash is a
>>
>> very good thing until all that clicks.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mary Jo Hartle
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:46 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: [blparent] strollers
>>
>> HI,
>> I have a couple of suggestions to throw out there on this issue. I am
>> mostly fond of using a pack to transport my daughter around. It is a lot
>> easier to use this with my cane because I don't have to worry about
>> looking
>> for drop offs, or navigating a stroller on narrow, bumpy, cracked up
>> sidewalks in Baltimore. Sometimes getting the stroller on the bus is a
>> challenge too because I have to close it down to take it on the bus. At
>> the
>> moment, my daughter is still able to ride in the attachable car seat that
>> clamps on the stroller (we have a travel system) and this works really
>> well
>> when using the stroller and going places b/c I can detach her from the
>> stroller and she's still in a seat. However, when getting on the bus,
>> this
>> is a bit more challenging b/c I have to carry both the car seat carrier
>> with
>> my daughter in it, and the stroller onto a bus and all while still holding
>>
>> a
>> cane. I don't like doing this very often because it is harder and I also
>> don't like to have to set her down on the ground at the bus stop while I
>> close up the stroller. I usually end up straddling the car seat with my
>> legs to protect her and keep track of her while then leaning over and
>> closing up the stroller. When she outgrows the carrier in a few months,
>> this may get easier b/c then I can take her out and have her stand by my
>> side, but again, this won't work until she is able to stand/walk. Even
>> then, I am still nervous about letting go of her so to speak at a bus stop
>> while I close up the stroller. I may attach one of those kid leash things
>> while doing this so that she doesn't walk away from me. All of this is to
>> say that I find the pack much easier. But, there are times when the
>> stroller is more convenient too, like on the train when I don't have to
>> take
>> it apart, or when I'm traveling with my husband or another person who can
>> help carry either my daughter or the stroller when getting on a bus. It's
>> also nice sometimes to have the stroller in public places because then I
>> don't have to carry or hold my daughter the whole time--like at a
>> restaurant
>> or public event for example. The pack can get heavy after awhile. My
>> daughter is nine months old now, but only weighs about 15 lbs--still a
>> little on the small side for her age, but she's tall and lanky like her
>> dad.
>> So, we've been lucky and able to keep using the pack and other carriers
>> for
>> a bit longer than most. Our stroller is the Flip-it one from Grecko and I
>> like it. I would have preferred a jogging stroller, but because they have
>> two separate handles, my husband (who is also blind) and I thought a bar
>> stroller would work better for steering and pulling. This allows us to
>> hold
>> the handle in the middle of the bar and pull it behind us or hold it along
>> the side and walk along side the stroller to pull it. As I mentioned, our
>> stroller is a travel system, so there is a baby carrier/car seat that
>> latches in really easy to the stroller itself and which can be used as a
>> car
>> seat in a vehicle. This has worked great for us. WE fly a lot too and
>> have
>> found this to work well getting through air ports and also allowing us to
>> have a car seat and stroller with us at our various destinations. The
>> other
>> main reason we chose this style was because we can flip the handle of the
>> stroller. Because it is a bar handle, or something like a large skinny
>> upside down U, we can flip it over so that our daughter is facing us when
>> we
>> are pulling her rather than looking out with her back to us as we pull her
>> like a conventional stroller would require. I hope that makes sense.
>> Sometimes after using a pack so much I find our stroller to feel a little
>> bulky and big, but I guess compared to most, it's about the same size and
>> durability. The wheels feel a little unsteady to me sometimes because
>> they
>> are the typical plastic ones like most strollers have and not the rubber,
>> more shock absorbing ones like the jogging strollers have, but as I said,
>> we
>> live in Baltimore and the city terrain is pretty rough, so given this, the
>> stroller is still in really good condition despite us banging it over a
>> lot
>> of bumps and cracks. Our daughter also doesn't get jostled around a lot
>> either which is most important.
>> As LM said, I think there are a lot of different combinations to
>> use
>> for different situations. We have found using a pack and a stroller to be
>> helpful. Sometimes even when I take the stroller, I put the pack in the
>> storage place under the stroller so we have it just in case. Also, just
>> FYI, I used a Bjourn pack until my daughter got big enough to face
>> forward.
>> I love this pack and found it to be very easy to get her in and out of and
>> on and off of me. I would have continued to use it if she could have
>> faced
>> forward in it, but the bottom wasn't appropriate for that. So, now when I
>> want to carry her facing outward, I use the Snuggly which I also like and
>> have found to be very easy to use and comfortable. It is also made of a
>> little more flexible material than the Bjorn so I can put my daughter in
>> it
>> facing outward, and then when she starts to get sleepy, I can turn her
>> around to face me so she can put her head on my chest.
>> I think we will continue to use the packs as our main choices, but
>> I
>> do like having a stroller. I also think that when my daughter is older
>> and
>> too heavy to carry for long periods of time, we will use the stroller more
>> often. They definitely are convenient. I think the best advice is to go
>> to
>> the store and play with some of the different options so that you can
>> become
>> familiar with them and see how difficult they may be to push, pull, open,
>> and close so that you can find one that works right for you. Another idea
>> would be to borrow different styles from family or friends if you have
>> access to them and take different strollers for a test drive before
>> investing in something that might not work best for you. Good luck.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:43 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>
>> Radioflier Deluxe has the seat belts, and the one seat can be folded down,
>> and changed around for different seating or storage. This is the one we
>> have. I am honestly not happy with it anymore. We have had it for less
>> than
>> 1 year and it started to crack where the front wheel turning axle goes
>> through the plastic. This causes the wheel to lean, making it difficult to
>> turn. There is a 2 year warranty. But, because of the way the receipts are
>> printed now days, they don't last long. So, we can't prove when we bought
>> it, so the warranty means nothing.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tammy
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:34
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have one, it's a 2 seater and my boys love it. It's the radio flier
>> path
>> finder. Mine doesn't have a canapy but you can get one that has one
>>
>> Tammy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Veronica Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:56 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>
>> As for a wagon, I know there is one out there that really does have a
>> seatbelt. But can't remember what is is called.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Peggy
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:09 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>
>> Well the first thing I'm going to do is take another look at my stroller,
>> but it's just too hard to pull behind me, if I push it beside me, that
>> works
>> okay, but then you've got my dog, me, and the stroller, and on really wide
>> sidewalks that works fine but on narrower sidewalks or ones that are
>> really
>> close to the street, not so well. It's not that I'm not independent, it's
>> that I haven't found anything but a backpack that works so far and like I
>> said, as Dylan weighs about 30 pounds he's getting a little heavy.
>> Thought
>> about a wagon but I'm not sure he'd stay in there for any length of time,
>> depends on his mood. Not sure where I got my backpack, do a Google search
>> for baby backpack and it comes up with a lot of suggestions, if you need
>> more help I'll try to see if I can look it up.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lisamaria Martinez
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:58 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I use two different strollers and I've used a variety of carriers.
>>
>> When Erik was smaller, lighter and less fidgety I put him in the moby
>> wrap.
>> I know many of you out there dislike it for its complexity but I know
>> there
>> is at least one mamma out there who knows how awesome it is to wrap your
>> little one snug around you. And in reality, it isn't so hard to put on.
>> Obviously though it isn't for everyone.
>>
>> I tried an Ergo but thought it didn't fit someone my height very well.
>> I couldn't get the back strap low enough to feel comfortable.
>>
>> I fell in love with the Beco Butterfly and used it to commute back and
>> forth
>> to daycare and work with Erik for 2 or 3 months. By the time he got to be
>> about 21 pounds I had to come up with another solution. I get lots of
>> headaches and the weight on my shoulders wasn't helping.
>>
>> I've tried the Kelty once or twice, but not for any long periods of times.
>> Erik really liked being up high and seemed to be way less fidgety in that
>> backpack. Also, the straps seemed to put very little weight on my
>> shoulders.
>>
>> If we have a second kid I'm going to try and get the Kelty and use it if I
>> can.
>>
>> As for strollers, which is the actual topic of this post, I've used two
>> and
>> love both for different reasons. I am a cane user and I really think that
>> any blind parent can find a stroller/cane combo or stroller/dog combo that
>> works for them. It really comes down to how comfortable you are traveling
>> yourself.
>>
>> I adore the City Mini Baby Jogger. I think jogging strollers are easier to
>> use because they turn so easily. They are also much easier to control with
>> one hand. I don't push from behind, but I do put the sunshade cover down
>> and
>> place my hand on top of it and simply walk right next to the stroller.
>> That
>> way, we're side by side. It is harder to do this in a crowd or a narrow
>> area
>> so if the sunshade is down I can walk ahead of the stroller and place my
>> fingers, palm up, under the lip of the sunshade and pull. The only thing
>> is
>> I get my heels banged into frequently with the front wheel of the
>> stroller.
>>
>> I also use the McClairen Volo. I use this stroller everyday to take the
>> little dude to daycare. We go up and down elevators and escalators with
>> this
>> stroller. It is like a fancier and better quality umbrella stroller--very
>> popular in Britain I hear. I do stand behind the stroller and push. I use
>> my
>> cane over the stroller. I purchased a longer cane so that I could find
>> things before the stroller did. This technique does require my cane in my
>> hand as well as the stroller handle. However, the handle curves upward and
>> slightly in so I tend to rest my wrist or lower forearm on top of the
>> handle
>> and use my cane.
>> When I need to push uphill I simply rest the very end of the cane handle
>> in
>> my palm, or sometimes my fingers, and push with the cane and stroller
>> handle
>> in my hand.
>>
>> I know all of this sounds complicated but it is one of those things you
>> just
>> have to get out there and get comfortable with on your own.
>> And who knows, you might come up with something totally different.
>>
>> all I know is that there isn't one answer. And in fact, I really encourage
>> everyone to have two ways of schlepping your kid around.I mean, if you
>> carry
>> your kid how do you deal with the kid at the dentist? The OBGYN? And if
>> you
>> use a stroller, how do you pack the stroller and the kid when you board a
>> shuttle or a bus?
>>
>> Just some thoughts to put out there.
>>
>> LM
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/12, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>>> Where did you get your backpack?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Peggy
>>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:25 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>>
>>> I use a guide dog not a cane put I would think both would be equally
>>> hard to
>>>
>>> do, you're trying to keep yourself straight, the stroller straight, it
>>> was a
>>>
>>> pain, so although my son's about 30 pounds now, I'll stick with the
>>> backpack.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Veronica Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:17 PM
>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>>
>>> That is funny, I suggested a backpack as well.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Peggy
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 7:22 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] strollers
>>>
>>> A conventional stroller is almost impossible to use, they are harder
>>> to use for sighted people as well. I heard about getting a jogging
>>> stroller and found one for a reasonable price on Craig's list but even
>>> that isn't as easy as people made it sound. I tride pushing it,
>>> pulling it ... My advice for your friend ... get a backpack!! Am very
>>> interested now to hear if any of you have used strollers and how.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Veronica Smith
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:01 PM
>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [blparent] strollers
>>>
>>> A friend of mine who is blind and is or was a member here has recently
>>> moved to NM and at the moment doesn't have internet. She asked me to
>>> throw out a question to you.
>>> Her baby, Sam, about 10 months now likes to go for rides in his stroller.
>>> Mom says how does a blind mom push or pull a conventional stroller?
>>> V
>>>
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