[blparent] Keeping young children safeasparentswithavisualimpairment

Wed Jan 4 17:33:51 UTC 2012

Hi,
LOL! *Smile!* LOL, thanks for making me laugh!
There are days when we all need a bit of humor, and today just happens to be
one of those days... Now, it's off to buy two new canes... Mine broke not
even a year after I bought it while Andy was using it on his way home today,
and we were planning to purchase a new one for him this week anyway... I'm
really hoping the company will do something about the fact that the elastic
on mine should not have broken so soon! Ugh! Now, we have one very tall
spare cane to use for the two of us. It's too tall for either of us in
retrospect, but I suppose it's better than no cane at all!
Thanks again, and sorry about my venting!

In Christ, Miranda

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From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:42 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children
safeasparentswithavisualimpairment

Remember, too, that you'll get really used to listening for your child.  And
as the foster children get to know you, hopefully they'll start coming to
you on their own, and the alarms and sensors will be less necessary.  Heck,
if you put too many on, your house will sound like a real live video game
with all the bells going off.  *Smile.*

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all of
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:00 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children
safeasparentswithavisualimpairment

> You can get those alarms that will go off as you walk threw the door 
> way, the door does not have to be closed.
>
> On 1/4/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>> Why an alarm for the kid's bedroom?
>> My daughter won't sleep with her door closed, hasn't done so since 
>> she was about a year old.
>> What would an alarm on that door accomplish?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Miranda B.
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:03 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe
>> asparentswithavisualimpairment
>>
>> Hi Leanne,
>> We've had a couple friends bring their young children to our home, and it

>> is
>> pretty childproof. *grin*
>> We do have a deadbolt on both the front and back doors, the back door is
>> only accessible by going through the basement door which has a childproof
>> knob cover on it. The basement is accessible through the kitchen which is
>> blocked by a gate.
>> The only doors we'll be using the alarms for are the front door and the
>> child's bedroom.
>> We'll call lowes this week as part of our research.
>> Thanks so much, and have a great week!
>>
>> In Christ, Miranda
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Leanne Merren
>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 10:48 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe
>> asparentswithavisualimpairment
>>
>> Hi Miranda,
>> Well I wasn't actually the one who installed it - our building and 
>> grounds
>> committee ended up taking care of the request.  But right now we have the
>> receiver plugged in on the other side of the room and it works fine. 
>> Maybe
>> call Lowes and ask them what they carry.  I'm almost positive they got it
>> there.
>> I will be honest though, I think I would want a dead bolt or something if

>> I
>> was thinking about security for my door leading to the outside.  Toddlers
>> getting outside can be a very scarry situation.  If they aren't wearing
>> bells or any kind of sound source, they can often be very quick and I
>> wouldn't chance it.  I might do the alarm as a security measure in case
>> someone forgot to throw the lock, but securing the door I think is the
>> biggest concern.  My kids can't open my door when they're little so I
>> haven't had to worry about it, but as they get older I can put some 
>> serious
>> rules in place to keep them from even trying it.  With foster children,
>> however, they aren't with you to have those rules strictly enforced at
>> first, so you face some challenges there.  I have to think about things 
>> like
>> that with my day care kids so I'm sharing these thoughts from my own
>> experiences.
>> Have you had children over to your home to kind of test the waters and 
>> see
>> how child proof it really is?  Kids can find the craziest things to get 
>> into
>> and they can sure surprise me at times. *smile* Leanne
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Miranda B." <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 8:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe
>> asparentswithavisualimpairment
>>
>>
>>> Hi Leanne,
>>> Thanks so much! How far can the box be from the receiver before it
>>> loses a signal?
>>> Thanks again, and have a great week!
>>>
>>> In Christ, Miranda
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Leanne Merren
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 6:53 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as
>>> parentswithavisualimpairment
>>>
>>> I am the nursery coordinator at our church, and we were having a
>>> problem with toddlers getting out of the fire exit door, because the
>>> style of door knob on those doors is very easy for little hands to
>>> grasp.  Child proofing isn't allowed since it might keep us from
>>> making a swift exit.  So we purchased the door alarm to alert the
>>> nursery volunteers of the door being opened.  It is a box installed
>>> next to the door that sends a signal to a receiver that is plugged
>>> into the wall.  The sound isn't loud, it's like a door bell ringing.
>>> It has worked out very well.  I do believe it was purchased at Lowes.
>>> Leanne
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "sharon howerton" <shrnhow at att.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as
>>> parentswithavisualimpairment
>>>
>>>
>>>> Miranda, no, the alarms I heard were not terribly loud and perhaps
>>>> you could adjust the volume. It was just a tone when a door was opened.
>>>> One wouldn't want something piercing as it could awaken or startle a
>>>> young child anyway. I hope Walmart can help you but if not, I'll ask
>>>> my son if they have anything at Lowe's if you like and even if there
>>>> isn't something near you, perhaps they could ship or check good old
>>> Amazon.
>>>> As for the APH book, I don't recall the name, Debbie may, but you may
>>>> try to contact Terri Terlau at APH to ask her.
>>>> I agree with you about the costs of those books, but you could
>>>> mention them to your caseworker as resources if nothing else. Perhaps
>>>> NLS has them in Braille or through BARD. Or perhaps your local Lions
>>>> Club could purchase for you?
>>>> Sharon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Miranda B." <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:53 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as parents
>>>> withavisualimpairment
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi again Sharon,
>>>>> We're headed to Walmart early next week to investigate the door 
>>>>> chimes.
>>>>> Now,
>>>>> we're praying we can find some that chime and don't admit an
>>>>> ear-pearsing beep! I agree a child needs to be safe and cared for,
>>>>> but I value my life and sanity, and I don't want to be startled
>>>>> awake... LOL ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you happen to remember the name of the book from APH?
>>>>> I've found some books of interest from Through the Looking Glass,
>>>>> but I'm wondering if I can find them for much less than they are
>>>>> being sold by TLG.
>>>>> I completely understand the need to recover costs of printing and
>>>>> such, but
>>>>> $35-$45 per book is a bit pricy in my opinion.
>>>>> The books are:
>>>>> The Adoption Experience: A Prospective Guide for Parents with
>>>>> Disabilities and their Advocates Ella Callow, JD
>>>>>
>>>>> You May Be Able to Adopt: A Guide to the Adoption Process for
>>>>> Prospective Mothers with Disabilities Linda Toms Barker, Megan
>>>>> Kirshbaum, PhD, et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mothers with Visual Impairments Who Are Raising Young Children
>>>>> (Sorry I don't have the author's name.) I've looked on Bookshare,
>>>>> and they do not have these books available. My next place to look is
>> NLS.
>>>>> Thanks again to everyone for your wonderful help, and happy new year!
>>>>>
>>>>> In Christ, Miranda
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sharon howerton
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:04 AM
>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as parents with
>>>>> avisualimpairment
>>>>>
>>>>> Miranda, I think Debbie's suggestion about the pamphlet is a good
>>>>> one; sorry I forgot about that.
>>>>> As for the audible alarm or chimes, you might check with a Lowe's or
>>>>> somewhere like that to get an economically priced alarm system; it
>>>>> doesn't have to be anything fancy, just something to alert you when
>>>>> a door is opened. Again, good luck; I hope we can provide answers
>>>>> for you and those with whom you are working.
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Miranda B." <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as parents with
>>>>> avisualimpairment
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sharon,
>>>>>> Thanks for your comments and encouragement! We're actually looking
>>>>>> into the door chimes, and we'd appreciate any information anyone
>>>>>> can give about models of chimes. We're wanting to put chimes on the
>>>>>> child's bedroom door and our front door in our home. So, we're
>>>>>> hoping to not spend a ton of money on these chimes.
>>>>>> Thank you also for the other tips and again for your encouragement.
>>>>>> We're very interested in the book from APH and will be looking into
>>>>>> this. We've also referred our new caseworker to "Parenting without
>>>>>> sight", and we've encouraged her to send this to the state workers
>>>>>> as well as a resource to view and share.
>>>>>> Happy New year!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Christ, Miranda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of sharon howerton
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:08 PM
>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as parents with
>>>>>> a visualimpairment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Miranda, do you have an auditory indicator on your outside doors
>>>>>> that might beep when a door is opened? We had this when my sons
>>>>>> were young, I noticed it in a friend's house (both parents are
>>>>>> blind and they have two grown children but when I was there, the
>>>>>> kids were in their teens) but more recently I noticed it in a condo 
>>>>>> we
>> looked at.
>>>>>> Another interesting tip came from one of my first Parenting
>>>>>> students, a grandma taking care of her then two or so year old
>>>>>> granddaughter. She said she closed the doors to rooms where she did
>>>>>> not want her little one to go and put different kinds of wind
>>>>>> chimes on the doors so she could tell which one was opened.
>>>>>> Finally, APH is coming out with a new book with strictly tips for
>>>>>> blind parents. I read the preliminary version but do not know when
>>>>>> it will be available to the public; I reviewed it a year ago.
>>>>>> I sincerely wish you well and if can be of any further help, please
>>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>> Your comments about foster care remind me of another student who is
>>>>>> volunteering at a daycare center. One part deals with foster kids
>>>>>> and the other with children of more normal families. She said she
>>>>>> was being observed and scrutinized so much when she worked in the
>>>>>> foster care section that she finally just got out of it altogether
>>>>>> so I empathize with your concerns and hope you will be able to
>>>>>> succeed. You and Andy have sure worked hard and long at this process.
>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Miranda B." <knownoflove at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:51 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Keeping young children safe as parents with a
>>>>>> visualimpairment
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those of you who know me and have talked with me for any
>>>>>>> length of time, you may find the subject of this email a bit
>>>>>>> puzzling, so please let me explain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As some of you may know, my husband and I are currently in the
>>>>>>> process of being licensed as foster parents. After sending our
>>>>>>> home study to the state for approval, our caseworker (through a
>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>> agency) received notice from the state that they are requesting
>>>>>>> more information. They are asking her to investigate further
>>>>>>> resources and information about how we will keep a child in our
>>>>>>> home safe as foster parents who happen to be Blind. The state has
>>>>>>> made it very clear that they are not wanting to discriminate in
>>>>>>> any way, but that they are requesting more information from many
>>>>>>> families regarding child safety due to recent incidents in our
>>>>>>> foster care system. They are also wanting more information than
>>>>>>> usual from those applying to be foster parents who have never been
>>> parents before this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In return, we have answered basic questions of safety as best as
>>>>>>> we can and we've reiterated that we have all childproofing in
>>>>>>> place in our home (our case was recently transferred to a
>>>>>>> caseworker who knows us but has not recently been in our home.) We
>>>>>>> want to approach this situation with the intent to educate the
>>>>>>> state about resources for Blind parents, and adaptions we make as
>>>>>>> parents who are visually impaired. We have made it clear that
>>>>>>> there is a fine line between wanting more information and
>>>>>>> discrimination (whether intentional or
>>>>>>> not) and that we will appeal any denial for licensing should the
>>>>>>> need arise. We are taking a Hadley parenting course, and this has
>>>>>>> been documented. We've told our caseworker about the NFB and other
>>>>>>> Blindness organizations. Now, we are coming to you for tips and
>>>>>>> advice. Can you tell us adaptions you made to keep your children 
>>>>>>> safe?
>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>> could be adaption for medical care, making sure they didn't run
>>>>>>> out the door of your home, keeping them safe while you are cooking,
>> ETC.
>>>>>>> Anything you cn think of we'd appreciate it! Also, for those of
>>>>>>> you who have adopted or been licensed as foster parents, if you
>>>>>>> could provide any tips or advice on this matter this would also be
>>>>>>> greatly appreciated!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lastly, if you can think of any resources at all to pass along to
>>>>>>> our caseworker and the state, we'd appreciate any thing you can
>>>>>>> think
>>> of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can give, and happy new year!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Christ, Miranda
>>>>>>>
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