[blparent] Pass the butter please!

Jennifer Jackson jennifersjackson at att.net
Tue May 15 23:52:39 UTC 2012


Powdered milk is actually more expensive now than regular milk. I do keep
some on hand because it does save me from making extra trips to the grocery
store if I run out. I think it saves me money in that way, but it does not
work out to be a savings by the gallon.

Powdered egg can be good for the same reason. I have kept it around before
and used it to bake with, but I have never tried making scrambled eggs out
of it.


Jennifer


-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:10 PM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!

I can remember drinking my share of powdered milk when the month outlasted 
the money.  Mostly that happened when I was really little, because by the 
time I went to school, my dad had worked his way up in the construction 
company, and times weren't so lean.  Gerald was telling me just the other 
night how his mom would make half a jug of powdered milk and then mix that 
with half a jug of regular milk, and he said when it was done that way, you 
couldn't really tell the difference.  They did that all the time he was 
growing up.  I didn't mind the taste of powdered milk, but I can't stand to 
drink any liquid that might have the remote possibility of chunks in it, so 
powdered milk is out for me now as an adult.

I've never had powdered eggs, but the grossest thing I've ever seen was 
gelified turkey that came in a big fat tube like you would usually squeeze 
lotion out of.  You squeezed globs of this stuff out into a pan, sort of a 
consistency that was a cross between Vaseline and toothpaste, and then as it

cooked it sort of solidified to resemble turkey medallions.  It tasted like 
turkey, but it had a texture when cooked that was hard to describe.  Sort of

like biting into a pear that's going soft, except without the juice, and 
turkey-flavored.  It was one of those military meals that you're supposed to

eat out in the bush somewhere, so if you were in battle or harsh conditions 
and really hungry, maybe the turkey would end up tasting pretty good.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of 
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all of 
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:32 PM
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!

> That's funny because my grandma told me the same story about how margarine
> used to come and they'd have to mix it.  My mom said that she grew up on
> mostly margarine because it cost a lot less than real butter but that she
> always hated the flavor.  I grew-up on real butter and any time I'd visit 
> my
> grandma she'd always make us this yummy bread she'd call Happiness bread
> which was pretty much a raisin toast with some tasty spices in it.  Well,
> she'd smother our toast with margarine and I'd always have to grin and 
> bear
> it even though it made me gag.  I think my sister and I finally got the 
> guts
> to kindly break the news to grandma that we disliked margarine and she 
> began
> putting cheese on our toast which didn't go with raisin bread but we were
> thrilled to take it over margarine.  I guess you just get used to what you
> grow-up with but sometimes like in my mom's case you grow-up hating
> something and swear your kids won't have to endure the same torture you 
> did.
> SMILING  Powdered milk was one of those other things my mom grew-up with 
> and
> hated and I thank God she didn't subject us to that stuff.  I had to drink
> powdered milk at a friend's house once at a sleep over and it took
> everything in me not to lose my cookies because it was also complimented
> with powdered eggs. YUMM LOL
>
> Erin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:44 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>
> I grew up on margarine and actually prefer it over butter for taste.  My
> grandma used to tell about how margarine became popular during World War 
> II
> because butter was tightly rationed.  She said the margarine would come in

> a
> white block that she described as very ugly, and with it a packet of 
> yellow
> coloring.  She said you had to mix the yellow color into the margarine, 
> and
> mix and mix and mix, and eventually it would be all yellow, supposedly 
> like
> butter, but she told me the coloring didn't enhance the appearance of the
> margarine a whole lot.  I remember her telling me the margarine story 
> years
> ago when she had baked some cookies that I thought were delicious, but she
> didn't like the way they looked because the mint candy that she had put in
> the middle of each one had melted all over the top instead of staying nice
> and round and pretty.  She said she thought maybe sighted people fussed 
> too
> much.  Those cookies tasted just fine to me, sloppy-looking or not, and 
> I've
> always remembered her telling me about ugly white margarine.  She always
> baked with Crisco or butter, and my other grandma, who was Spanish, swore 
> by
> lard.
>
> All done rambling, I guess, but I've been proofreading an insurance manual
> in Spanish since nine o'clock this morning and I had to come up for air!
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant 
> of
> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all 
> of
> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:13 PM
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>
>> Yep, I was just sharing the information with the list as food for
>> thought, no pun intended. GRIN
>>
>> Erin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:09 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>
>> What I take away from the post and discussion is that butter isn't
>> necessarily good for you, but margarine is probably not dangerous, 
>> either.
>> All things in moderation.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
>> tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will
>> have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943,
>> American scientist
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:08 PM
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>
>>> So there are different types of Margarine but just one kind made in
>>> this way is enough to watch-out for the product and be more on the
>>> defense when purchasing such altered and man-made food items.  I
>>> wasn't sending this out to everyone as gospel that we should hurry up
>>> and send out to everyone we know, but I merely found it interesting
>>> and thought how it's good to educate ourselves on how disgusting some
>>> of the "food" items are that companies expect us to eat which we do
>>> as a whole because we're too trusting.  Just because something's
>>> being sold in a grocery store here in America doesn't mean we should
>>> eat it and if we base our purchases upon that state of mind, then
>>> we're in trouble.  I truly and firmly believe that obesity is on the
>>> rise, not just because of people's poor eating habits and lack of
>>> exercise but it's also largely based on what's put into our foods and
>>> how things are processed and-or manufactured.  The bottom line is
>>> that the more natural and less processed we get our foods the better
>>> and that's the only message I was sharing here.  Of course there are
>>> a million different studies out there warning us against this and
>>> that, but have we ever seen a study that says that margarine is good
>>> for us?  Just a thought.
>>>
>>> Erin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:34 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>
>>> I like your line of thinking sir. Thank you for this well-written
>>> response.
>>> I knew that something being sold every day to everybody for years
>>> cannot be that bad and on the brink of killing us all.
>>>
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> (623) 565-9357
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2012, at 12:24 PM, "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin at gpcom.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yeah real old, do a little more reading. It is kind of true, but it
>>>> depends on what margarine your looking at.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/butter-vs-margarine/AN00835
>>>>
>>>> http://my.clevelandclinic.org/heart/prevention/askdietician/margarine.
>>>> aspx
>>>>
>>>> http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp
>>>>
>>>> I really like the part about being one molecule away from being 
>>>> plastic.
>>>> Even a very slight change in the molecular structure of a substance
>>>> can make a huge difference. o2 is the oxygen we need for life, but
>>>> o3 is ozone, which is considered poisonous. You going to stop
>>>> breathing because the oxygen you need to survive is 1 molecule away 
>>>> from
> a poison?
>>>>
>>>> Some would argue that all products containing vegetable oil are bad
>>>> for you, and you should only use lard and tallow for cooking.
>>>>
>>>> No matter what you decide to eat someone is going to come up with
>>>> some research that says it is bad for you.
>>>>
>>>> now if you want to be careful of something, watch out for dihydrogen
>>>> monoxide.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Erin Rumer
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:33 PM
>>>> To: NFB blind parent listserv
>>>> Subject: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>>
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is some interesting and amazing facts about margarine and
>>>> butter that I thought you'd all like to read since we're always
>>>> concerned about putting the right things in our children's mouths as
>>>> well as our
>>> own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Erin
>>>>
>>>> Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it
>>>> killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the
>>>> research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure
>>>> out what to do with this product to get their money back.
>>>> It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the
>>>> yellow colouring and sold it to people to use in place of butter.
>>>> How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new
> flavourings....
>>>>
>>>> DO YOU KNOW.. The difference between margarine and butter?
>>>>
>>>> Read on to the end...gets very interesting!
>>>>
>>>> Both have the same amount of calories.
>>>> Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats  at  8 grams; compared
>>>> to
>>>> 5 grams for margarine.
>>>>
>>>> Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over
>>>> eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard
>>>> Medical
>>> Study.
>>>>
>>>> Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in
>>>> other foods.
>>>> Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few and
>>>> only because they are added!
>>>>
>>>> Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the
>>>> flavours of other foods
>>>>
>>>> Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around
>>>> for less than 100 years.
>>>> And now, for Margarine.
>>>>
>>>> Very High in Trans fatty acids.
>>>>
>>>> Triples risk of coronary heart disease ...
>>>>
>>>> Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol)
>>>> and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)
>>>>
>>>> Increases the risk of cancers up to five times..
>>>>
>>>> Lowers quality of breast milk
>>>>
>>>> Decreases immune response.
>>>>
>>>> Decreases insulin response.
>>>>
>>>> And here's the most disturbing fact... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY
>>>> INTERESTING!
>>>>
>>>> Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC... And shares
>>>> 27 ingredients withPAINT These facts alone were enough to have me
>>>> avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated
>>>> (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of
>>>> the
>>> substance).
>>>> Open a tub of margarine and leave it open in your garage or shaded 
>>>> area.
>>>> Within a couple of days you will notice a couple of things:
>>>>
>>>> * no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that
>>>> should tell you something)
>>>>
>>>> * it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional
>>>> value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny
>>>> microorganisms will not find a home to grow. Why? Because it is
>>>> nearly
>> plastic .
>>>> Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?
>>>>
>>>> Share This With Your Friends.....(If you want to butter them up')!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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