[blparent] Pass the butter please! (strange foods, warning: slightly gross)

[sharon howerton]

Can we please please drop this. Both Steve and Dave have said this is off 
topic and not related in any way to blind parenting.
Sharon Howerton
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please! (strange foods, warning: 
slightly gross)


>        Why?
> Saying "no thank you" is perfectly fine. Rudeness is never okay but a 
> simple "no thank you" is fine.
> It isn't up to you to pass judgement on what I will and won't eat. For 
> example, I don't much like mashed potatos. Their texture grosses me out. 
> If I'm offered them, I'll politely say no. If someone puts them on my 
> plate anyway, I'll ignore them.  If the host asks why, I'll be honest and 
> explain that it isn't anything they did, it's all me.
> Why does a simple "no thank you" concern you?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Erin Rumer
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 4:47 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please! (strange foods, warning: 
> slightly gross)
>
> I kind of like your mom's approach with new foods and I'll have to tuck 
> that
> away in my parental tool box for the future with my son.
>
> Yes, brains is out for me and I don't know about cow stomach but I would
> like to try alligator, rabbit and maybe squirrel if it's cooked right.  I 
> do
> love that about my sister's kids who are now 11 and 12 because they've 
> tried
> all kinds of odd foods and are willing to eat just about anything even if
> they don't like it which is important when a guest at someone's home. 
> That
> was always a major rule for us kids growing up in that you could politely
> tell mom and dad what you really feel about a food when you're at home but
> out of courtesy you never, ever, ever make a rood comment when eating as a
> guest at someone's home.  We didn't have to be dishonest and say we liked
> something if we were asked by the host, but we were expected to graciously
> except everything put in front of us.  I strongly feel that this rule help
> me out tremendously as an adult when eating at people's homes as well as 
> at
> conferences and such.  I find it pretty pathetic when I've been at events
> like conventions or even in class getting a new guide dog and certain 
> folks
> around me are making a rood scene about what they will and will not eat,
> just like a bratty little kid.
>
> As an adult I've made a point to force myself to eat the things I don't
> necessarily enjoy but know are good for me and I've been pleasantly
> surprised that after a few times my tastes often times change and I'm
> enjoying the food item I before didn't.
>
> Erin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:09 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please! (strange foods, warning:
> slightly gross)
>
> I can't drink liquids that might have sediment in the bottom.  Even the
> thought makes me gag, which is a shame because hot cocoa and chocolate 
> milk
> are definitely out.  It's for the same reason that your mom can't do it,
> except mine was having to drink those Carnation instant breakfast shakes
> with the chocolate all settled to the bottom.  I was so sick during the
> beginning of my pregnancy that my doctor wanted me to drink Ensure or 
> Boost
> shakes, and even though they're completely mixed with no sediments, just
> their texture and flavor made me think of chocolate milk, and I couldn't
> keep them down.  I finally quit trying because they would just come right
> back up anyway.
>
> As for trying new foods, my mom had a rule that if there was a new food on
> the table and you said yuck or made a negative comment about it, you had 
> to
> eat a whole serving of it.  But if you tried it first before you said
> anything, and you didn't like it, you only had to eat three bites.  I 
> think
> that rule was something she got from her own mother.  I can't say I'm
> exceptionally adventurous with new foods, but I'll generally at least give
> everything a taste.
>
> When my mom and dad were newly married, he took her to meet the branch of
> his family that still lives in New Mexico.  Brains and eggs, which is a
> fairly common breakfast meal down there I guess, was on the menu their 
> first
> morning.  My mom turned green and left the table, and it was kind of a 
> shame
> because she and my dad never made another visit down there.  I've never 
> had
> that breakfast, or kidney pie either, thank God.  And now that my
> grandparents are gone, when we make menudo, we use just plain pork instead
> of tripe, which is made from cow's stomach.  I've had that, and it doesn't
> taste bad, but the texture is too chewy for me.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant 
> of
> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all 
> of
> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:12 AM
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>
>> Wow, that turkey sounds pretty bad, but like you said, maybe good if
>> one is starving.  My mom was so bothered by her powdered milk
>> experience that to this day she can't finish the bottom of a glass of
>> milk because that's where the sediment would always be when she was a
>> kid drinking powdered milk.
>> We
>> always teased her for it but it was a psychological thing.  Sometimes
>> we'd cheer my mom on to get her to finish her glass of milk but it was
>> painful for her to do and nearly made her gag even though it was regular
> milk.
>> It's
>> amazing how things like that can stay with us for life.  It's like my
>> grandpa who was forced to eat kidney pie with a white cream sauce as a
>> kid and to this day he won't touch anything with a white sauce.  I'm
>> so glad my parents never forced things like that on us but rather
>> explained the importance of eating healthy things in a rational way
>> and told us to always at least give everything a try.  We were never
>> picky eaters and to this day I love trying new things.  My parents had
>> a rule where once a year around the new year we could choose one thing
>> that our parents wouldn't even ask us to eat.  Mine was cooked
>> broccoli for nearly my whole childhood because it had such a rank
>> taste to me.  I'm so glad my parents allowed me to do that because now
>> that I'm an adult and wasn't forced into eating cooked broccoli, I
>> don't find it so bad and will eat it, especially in a good sauce or
>> mixed into a dish with lots of other things.
>>
>> Erin
>>
>> Erin
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:10 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>
>> I can remember drinking my share of powdered milk when the month
>> outlasted the money.  Mostly that happened when I was really little,
>> because by the time I went to school, my dad had worked his way up in
>> the construction company, and times weren't so lean.  Gerald was
>> telling me just the other night how his mom would make half a jug of
>> powdered milk and then mix that with half a jug of regular milk, and
>> he said when it was done that way, you couldn't really tell the
>> difference.  They did that all the time he was growing up.  I didn't
>> mind the taste of powdered milk, but I can't stand to drink any liquid
>> that might have the remote possibility of chunks in it, so powdered
>> milk is out for me now as an adult.
>>
>> I've never had powdered eggs, but the grossest thing I've ever seen
>> was gelified turkey that came in a big fat tube like you would usually
>> squeeze lotion out of.  You squeezed globs of this stuff out into a
>> pan, sort of a consistency that was a cross between Vaseline and
>> toothpaste, and then as it cooked it sort of solidified to resemble
>> turkey medallions.  It tasted like turkey, but it had a texture when
>> cooked that was hard to describe.  Sort of like biting into a pear
>> that's going soft, except without the juice, and turkey-flavored.  It
>> was one of those military meals that you're supposed to eat out in the
>> bush somewhere, so if you were in battle or harsh conditions and
>> really hungry, maybe the turkey would end up tasting pretty good.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
>> tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will
>> have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943,
>> American scientist
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:32 PM
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>
>>> That's funny because my grandma told me the same story about how
>>> margarine used to come and they'd have to mix it.  My mom said that
>>> she grew up on mostly margarine because it cost a lot less than real
>>> butter but that she always hated the flavor.  I grew-up on real
>>> butter and any time I'd visit my grandma she'd always make us this
>>> yummy bread she'd call Happiness bread which was pretty much a raisin
>>> toast with some tasty spices in it.  Well, she'd smother our toast
>>> with margarine and I'd always have to grin and bear it even though it
>>> made me gag.  I think my sister and I finally got the guts to kindly
>>> break the news to grandma that we disliked margarine and she began
>>> putting cheese on our toast which didn't go with raisin bread but we
>>> were thrilled to take it over margarine.  I guess you just get used
>>> to what you grow-up with but sometimes like in my mom's case you
>>> grow-up hating something and swear your kids won't have to endure the
>>> same torture you did.
>>> SMILING  Powdered milk was one of those other things my mom grew-up
>>> with and hated and I thank God she didn't subject us to that stuff.
>>> I had to drink powdered milk at a friend's house once at a sleep over
>>> and it took everything in me not to lose my cookies because it was
>>> also complimented with powdered eggs. YUMM LOL
>>>
>>> Erin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:44 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>
>>> I grew up on margarine and actually prefer it over butter for taste.
>>> My grandma used to tell about how margarine became popular during
>>> World War II because butter was tightly rationed.  She said the
>>> margarine would come in a white block that she described as very
>>> ugly, and with it a packet of yellow coloring.  She said you had to
>>> mix the yellow color into the margarine, and mix and mix and mix, and
>>> eventually it would be all yellow, supposedly like butter, but she
>>> told me the coloring didn't enhance the appearance of the margarine a
>>> whole lot.  I remember her telling me the margarine story years ago
>>> when she had baked some cookies that I thought were delicious, but
>>> she didn't like the way they looked because the mint candy that she
>>> had put in the middle of each one had melted all over the top instead
>>> of staying nice and round and pretty.  She said she thought maybe
>>> sighted people fussed too much.  Those cookies tasted just fine to
>>> me, sloppy-looking or not, and I've always remembered her telling me
>>> about ugly white margarine.  She always baked with Crisco or butter,
>>> and my other grandma, who was Spanish, swore by lard.
>>>
>>> All done rambling, I guess, but I've been proofreading an insurance
>>> manual in Spanish since nine o'clock this morning and I had to come
>>> up for
>> air!
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
>>> tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you
>>> will have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943,
>>> American scientist
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:13 PM
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>
>>>> Yep, I was just sharing the information with the list as food for
>>>> thought, no pun intended. GRIN
>>>>
>>>> Erin
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:09 PM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>>
>>>> What I take away from the post and discussion is that butter isn't
>>>> necessarily good for you, but margarine is probably not dangerous,
>>>> either.
>>>> All things in moderation.
>>>>
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>>>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
>>>> tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you
>>>> will have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943,
>>>> American scientist
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:08 PM
>>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>>
>>>>> So there are different types of Margarine but just one kind made in
>>>>> this way is enough to watch-out for the product and be more on the
>>>>> defense when purchasing such altered and man-made food items.  I
>>>>> wasn't sending this out to everyone as gospel that we should hurry
>>>>> up and send out to everyone we know, but I merely found it
>>>>> interesting and thought how it's good to educate ourselves on how
>>>>> disgusting some of the "food" items are that companies expect us to
>>>>> eat which we do as a whole because we're too trusting.  Just
>>>>> because something's being sold in a grocery store here in America
>>>>> doesn't mean we should eat it and if we base our purchases upon
>>>>> that state of mind, then we're in trouble.  I truly and firmly
>>>>> believe that obesity is on the rise, not just because of people's
>>>>> poor eating habits and lack of exercise but it's also largely based
>>>>> on what's put into our foods and how things are processed and-or
> manufactured.
>>>>> The bottom line is that the more natural and less processed we get
>>>>> our foods the better and that's the only message I was sharing here.
>>>>> Of course there are a million different studies out there warning
>>>>> us against this and that, but have we ever seen a study that says
>>>>> that margarine is good for us?  Just a thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Erin
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:34 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>>>
>>>>> I like your line of thinking sir. Thank you for this well-written
>>>>> response.
>>>>> I knew that something being sold every day to everybody for years
>>>>> cannot be that bad and on the brink of killing us all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> (623) 565-9357
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 17, 2012, at 12:24 PM, "Michael Baldwin"
>>>>> <mbaldwin at gpcom.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah real old, do a little more reading. It is kind of true, but
>>>>>> it depends on what margarine your looking at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/butter-vs-margarine/AN00835
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://my.clevelandclinic.org/heart/prevention/askdietician/margarine.
>>>>>> aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really like the part about being one molecule away from being
>>>>>> plastic.
>>>>>> Even a very slight change in the molecular structure of a
>>>>>> substance can make a huge difference. o2 is the oxygen we need for
>>>>>> life, but
>>>>>> o3 is ozone, which is considered poisonous. You going to stop
>>>>>> breathing because the oxygen you need to survive is 1 molecule
>>>>>> away from
>>> a poison?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some would argue that all products containing vegetable oil are
>>>>>> bad for you, and you should only use lard and tallow for cooking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter what you decide to eat someone is going to come up with
>>>>>> some research that says it is bad for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now if you want to be careful of something, watch out for
>>>>>> dihydrogen monoxide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Erin Rumer
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:33 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB blind parent listserv
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Pass the butter please!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is some interesting and amazing facts about margarine and
>>>>>> butter that I thought you'd all like to read since we're always
>>>>>> concerned about putting the right things in our children's mouths
>>>>>> as well as our
>>>>> own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it
>>>>>> killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the
>>>>>> research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to
>>>>>> figure out what to do with this product to get their money back.
>>>>>> It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the
>>>>>> yellow colouring and sold it to people to use in place of butter.
>>>>>> How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new
>>> flavourings....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DO YOU KNOW.. The difference between margarine and butter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read on to the end...gets very interesting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both have the same amount of calories.
>>>>>> Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats  at  8 grams; compared
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> 5 grams for margarine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over
>>>>>> eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard
>>>>>> Medical
>>>>> Study.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in
>>>>>> other foods.
>>>>>> Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few and
>>>>>> only because they are added!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the
>>>>>> flavours of other foods
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been
>>>>>> around for less than 100 years.
>>>>>> And now, for Margarine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very High in Trans fatty acids.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Triples risk of coronary heart disease ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol)
>>>>>> and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Increases the risk of cancers up to five times..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lowers quality of breast milk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Decreases immune response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Decreases insulin response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here's the most disturbing fact... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS
>>>>>> VERY INTERESTING!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC... And
>>>>>> shares
>>>>>> 27 ingredients withPAINT These facts alone were enough to have me
>>>>>> avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated
>>>>>> (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of
>>>>>> the
>>>>> substance).
>>>>>> Open a tub of margarine and leave it open in your garage or shaded
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> Within a couple of days you will notice a couple of things:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that
>>>>>> should tell you something)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * it does not rot or smell differently because it has no
>>>>>> nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny
>>>>>> weeny microorganisms will not find a home to grow. Why? Because it
>>>>>> is nearly
>>>> plastic .
>>>>>> Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Share This With Your Friends.....(If you want to butter them up')!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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