[blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

Tue Sep 25 16:12:10 UTC 2012

And don't forget the Dave Mathews band who dumped their waste while the tour bus was crossing a bridge.
The people on the boat under the bridge weren't too happy.

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From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Erin Rumer
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

Thanks for sharing Jenifer.  I totally agree that human waste as compost is
gross but I could see how it would help to break things down in a land-fill.
I too don't want nasty particles getting into our ground water but I also
don't agree with some areas in this country who dump their sewer waist into
the ocean.  Cruise ships are not supposed to do this but we'd be amazed how
often some do dump their waist into the ocean as well according to a friend
of mine who worked on a ship.  Some airlines have been charged for doing the
same thing.

I totally agree that we do just need to do what works for us and for me,
those Boeing bombs that my son creates need to leave the house almost as
fast as they leave his body. GRIN

Have a great day.

Erin

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

Erin,

The problem with the land fill system is that even when normally
biodegradable stuff goes into one it is just there forever. Rains and
sometimes floods will rinse some things into the ground where they can make
it into our water systems. We as humans really need to come up with some
better system for keeping our waste products dealt with before we sanitize
ourselves to death while using this not in my back yard system of throwing
it all in big wholes in the ground. I do not claim to be all green or
anything like that. I had a lovely iced coffee this morning in a throw away
plastic cup with a straw and lid and very much enjoyed it. :) I also used
disposables on my third baby. I was on my own with the three of them and
having to pump milk and dealing with a heart and breathing monitor. My
husband was out of town most of the time, but when he was home he refused to
use the cloth diapers so I just gave in and did what was simplest because I
needed any help I could get. I have even been known to wrap up an explosive
diaper along with the clothing and throw them all straight into the garbage.
Sometimes you have to weigh your resources, including time and mental
energy, and do what you can do to get through the day.

I really do understand that the cloth diapering thing can be an issue no
matter how much scientific research is presented. For myself, I just can not
get into the idea of using human waste for compost. I have read the
information and I have lots of chicken poop in mine, but I just can not help
but feel revolted by the mere idea of human waste going into my compost. The
grass may be greener over the septic tank, but I am not going to plant my
tomatoes there. My point is that just because we can not wrap our minds
around something, it does not mean that it is in reality unsanitary or
unhealthy. For that matter, I know this young mother who things the actual
act of breast feeding is disgusting. She pumps to get the milk because she
thinks that is best for her baby, but is not willing to even try to put him
on her nipple. It seems silly to me, but as she has not asked my opinion I
just tell her how beautiful her baby is and go about my business.
Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Erin Rumer
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:55 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that you were just joking around Jenifer and I too in
no way was trying to chastise anyone but was rather trying to share both
sides of the spectrum.  I also included my personal choice encase anyone was
interested in what I do for diapering and why.  I've heard both success
stories and horror stories from moms using both disposable and cloth
diapers.  Something I thought was interesting that I'd share is that I was
in a kids resale store one day and checking-out the cloth diapers.  As I was
asking the sales employee about why they had a lot of smaller sizes but
hardly anything in the bigger sizes for babies 6 months and up, she
commented that in her 20 plus years of working there she noticed that the
majority of parents who use cloth diapers do this until their baby's begin
to have more solid poop and that's when they like to switch to disposable
because it's more to deal with and not the nice runny stuff that new-borns
make any more.  It's a good thing that now they make those flushable inserts
for cloth diapers so parents can just throw the poop into the toilet making
the process of cleaning much easier.

I don't want to offend you in any way Jenifer but I'm just curious behind
why you were wanting to toss the poop into the toilet from your baby's
disposable diapers?  I always thought it was what the diapers are made of
that was the environmental concern rather than the natural biodegradable
poop that goes into them.  I would think that poop would actually help break
things down because it decomposes so quickly in addition to acting like a
fertilizer.

Erin

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

Erin, I was just teasing you a little about it, and certainly did not intend
to offend you. It was a little gentle amusement that you and Joe Elizabeth
wanted to chastise Michael for seeming to be judgmental while including
comments about people being slaves to a washing machine and implying we were
covered in fecal matter. I did not take any actual offense from either of
you, it just amused me a little.

Your response reminds me about a little cloth diapering tip to pass on for
those who are interested. I always prefer to put solid matter in the toilet
to flush. I did the same thing with disposables to help keep as  much human
waste out of the land fill as possible.

Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Erin Rumer
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:43 PM
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Hey Jenifer, I know far too well about the little bit of yuck that ends-up
in a wash but I think you know that I'm referring to the actual poop piles
swimming around in the washer.  It's just not for me and if you feel that
cloth diapers in your washer are perfectly clean than good for you.  It
probably comes out clean if hot enough water is used and the right detergent
is used but I personally don't feel comfortable with that and that's okay.

Erin

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:48 AM
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I agree with Jo Elizabeth about everyone being supportive. Though I do find
the idea that one extra load every two or three days makes anyone a slave to
the washing machine a little silly. :) Also Erin, I hate to break it to you
but as the mother of three little boys, I can assure you that you have had
fecal matter in your machine. :) They are just not very good about wiping
even after they are refusing to let you help. Thus the common phrase "skid
marks" in reference to men's underwear.

Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:41 PM
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I second what Jo Elizabeth is saying here and it's important that we all
just support one-another because this is not an issue of ethics but rather
personal preference for our individual lives.  As a nurse I met once put it
so beautifully, "cloth diapers verses disposable is something that probably
comes neck-to-neck in the end when it comes to what's best for the
environment.  On one hand there is energy wasted with cloth diapers  because
the washer has to be run a lot more often and chemicals have to be used to
clean those diapers.  Also, one must rid of the baby's waist by flushing the
toilet more often and on the other hand  disposable diapers are going into
land-fills."  I personally could never get used to the idea of fecal matter
going into my washing machine while friends of mine have no problem with it
and swear by it.  My boy might go into cloth training pants once we get
serious about potty-training but I wouldn't do it to just try and go green.
There are so many other ways I  conserve energy and try to be green that
this is not one I'm going to feel bad about because it's what is best for
us.

Erin
-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

Michael, it's easy to tell that cloth diapering is very important to you.
That's great.  But it doesn't work for everyone, and that doesn't make those
of us who didn't choose to do it guilty of causing a throwaway society.
Between my job and the rest of my commitments, I decided I couldn't be a
slave to my washing machine.  I did what worked for me.

Jo Elizabeth

Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may
kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Baldwin
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:28 AM
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Cloth diapers are sold in places like Wal*Mart and target. Not easy to find
usually, and not the best ones you can get either, but they are there. There
are also specialty cloth diaper stores, parenting stores, etc that sell them
in several cities. We even found some in a medical supply store. Was not
looking for them there, but there they were.

As they continue to grow in popularity, they will become available even more
places.

To bad we are such a throw away society.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:49 AM
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I think more people would use cloth if they didn't require research. If I
could have just taped or snapped a cloth diaper on, I may have used them. I
don't know.
But I got lost with the prefolds, the covers, and the fact that you can't
just go buy them.
The user interface and aquisition of cloth sucks!
The messages on this list as helpful as they are bear this out.

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

I found that the Kirkland diapers worked as well as, sometimes better than,
any other brand I tried, and they were significantly cheaper.  I could order
them on Diapers.com and get free shipping.  It's a great Web site, and it
has a lot more than diapers.  The slogan is "We deliver everything but the
baby" and it's very true.  There are feeding supplies, toys, clothes, and
all sorts of other baby products for unbeatable prices.

Jo Elizabeth

Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may
kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cole
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:14 PM
To: blparent at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?

Jo,

I forgot to mention this. I agree with you about Luv's diapers. We had the
same problem with Target brand diapers. Before we started using cloth
diapers, we typically only used the Kirkland brand fo diapers; they worked
the best for us.

On 09/22/2012 09:51 PM, Jo Elizabeth Pinto wrote:
> Luv's are hideous.  They leak so bad it's like the baby has no diaper
> on at all.
>
> I, too, decided that when you figured in laundry soap, water,
> electricity, etc, cloth diapers didn't offer enough of a savings to
> outweigh their inconvenience.  I bought Kirkland diapers from
> Diapers.com, and I loved having them delivered right to my doorstep.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you
> may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and
> full at evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
> -----Original Message----- From: Veronica Smith
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:40 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?
>
> Tracy, I did all that research as well and finally came to the
> conclusion, that cloth diapers weren't a better deal, as laundry
> prices, water, electricity balanced out.
> So I went for convienience.   My baby did best with Pampers.  I didn't
> like
> the feel of Huggies, they always felt wet to me and I didn't like
> Luv's, as they had a plastic liner and I thought it made our baby
> sweaty.
> V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Tracey Turri
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:11 AM
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> Subject: [blparent] Cloth Diapers Anyone?
>
> After spending 2 hours on the computer this morning recerching cloth
> diapering, I am still baffeled.  I get the cost savings over
> disposables long turm witch is a big plus for my family situation, but
> ware oh ware does a pregnant mom start?  Do any of you use cloth, and
> what styles/brands do you like, or should I say does your baby like?
> I no it's early to be thinking about diapering but with some of the
> diapering systoms out their you almost need to set up a savings plan
> to get started as soon as the little one is born.
> Any help would be gladly welcomed!
> Tracey
>
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