[blparent] Obianuju is the name for our daughter!

[mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo]

On 1/31/13, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> Gabe:
>
> Steve is not your Uncle (smile,) and I don't relish being the list
> Police.  If you would like to make a donation to the NFB, please feel
> free at any time -- but that is a separate matter and doesn't absolve
> you, or anyone else for responsibility for anything you say here.
>
> You are obviously a  bright guy -- and a good, and loving, and caring
> parent from everything I see.  However, you and others keep getting
> in the middle of these situations.  I suspect some people don't stop
> and think about the implications of some of the things they say.
>
> I was a Communications major in college (many years ago,) and one of
> the first things we learned was that it isn't what you said that
> matters -- but what people think you said.
>
> At times we all need to step back and take a deep breath.  Thanks!
>
> Dave
>
> At 02:44 PM 1/31/2013, you wrote:
>>I'm sorry, Uncle Steve, I really am. taking my employment in to
>>consideration, I should keep myself in better behavior. again, I
>>apologize and I should not act that way. Can I make a donation to
>>the NFB and we can forget all this happened?
>>Gabe Vega
>>CEO
>>Commtech LLC
>>Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>>Email: info at commtechusa.net
>>Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>
>>On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:30 PM, "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Gabe and all,
>> >
>> > You've already apologized, but clearly this thread has nothing to
>> do with blind parenting.  Your implication that it is either SSI
>> > or work is also incorrect.  It isn't your job to determine if
>> another list member is misrepresenting themselves, but if you are
>> > concerned that they are doing something that might be
>> inappropriate, write to Dave or me.  If you are smart enough to run your
>> own
>> > business, you should not need Dave or me to point out when you
>> are no longer talking about parenting issues but we go through this
>> > over and over again.  If you can't help yourself, try unplugging
>> your keyboard for a few hours.
>> >
>> > Some of the others here are also doing nothing to try to calm
>> things down.  If it is personal, take it up with the person off
>> > list.  If you think something is off topic, write to Dave or
>> me.  I didn't look at this list for three hours and things blow up.
>> > I am able to trust my teenagers alone for longer than
>> that.  Let's knock this off and attempt, if possible, to limit
>> discussions
>> > to blind parenting.  There is a reason this list has that
>> title.  It isn't meant to be a place where blind parents emulate the
>> > less desireable bahaviors of kids.
>> >
>> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:17:53 -0700, Gabe Vega wrote:
>> >
>> >> now lets be honest here dear, you don't work.
>> >> Gabe Vega
>> >> CEO
>> >> Commtech LLC
>> >> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>> >> FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>> >> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>> >> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>> >
>> >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 12:13 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto"
>> <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Of course not.  That's a stupid comment.  I work and raise my
>> daughter, I've changed plenty of nasty diapers and cleaned up my
>> > body weight in barf. Shannon never said she denied her son
>> anything.  She just said it was unsavory, which I'm sure it is.  Most
>> > people will deal with body fluids and solids as they have to, but
>> I don't know anybody who likes it.  And you can't say she's
>> > complained about every little thing when she hasn't even posted for
>> > eons.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jo Elizabeth
>> >>>
>> >>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch;
>> nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will
>> > be round and full at evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:58 AM
>> >>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
>> >>>
>> >>> not it at all. its just that those of us who live life, while
>> working and raising our kids, some times even as a single parent.
>> > don't sit here and complain about the littlest things. there is
>> nothing wrong with changing your own kids no matter how big they
>> > get. 2 months or 4 years. if they need changing and they can't do
>> it themselves, who are we as parents to deny them the help? so
>> > if your daughter/son, threw up all over you when they had the
>> flue, would you get mad at them? make them clean up their own Barf?
>> >>> Gabe Vega
>> >>> CEO
>> >>> Commtech LLC
>> >>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>> >>> FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>> >>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>> >>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Dianna Alley"
>> <dianna24 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Well it is disgusting I mean we love our kids but as they get
>> older it gets harder to change and nastier that does not mean
>> > she has an issue with her child or his body.  He should be
>> trained by now accept for maybe an accident or two.  I think some of
>> > you all just like to find issue with people.
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega"
>> >>>> <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> >>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:19 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I'll be honest, I kind of scratched my head in wonder about
>> that statement as well, about her not liking changing her son.
>> > yes, I understand he's big, and yes I understand the potential
>> underlining issues, but, just weird to here a mother say that.
>> > thats all.
>> >>>>> Gabe Vega
>> >>>>> CEO
>> >>>>> Commtech LLC
>> >>>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>> >>>>> FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>> >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>> >>>>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>> >>>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:09 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Shannon,
>> >>>>>> I'm concerned when you say you are disgusted by your son's
>> diapers. You're his mother and of all people his body shouldn't
>> > disgust you.
>> >>>>>> I get that you wish he'd be potty trained already.  I get
>> that he's probably produced some nasty poops. What I don't get is
>> > continual disgust. I would understand if you said "Wow that
>> diaper sure was gross" or "that poop should go into the toxic waste
>> > disposal system" but not continual disgust.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm wondering if some of your disgust is due to other
>> issues, or if you haven't learned techniques to deal with his diapers
>> > effectively.  You say your vision is very limited. I'm wondering
>> if you thought "My kid will be out of diapers, I don't need to
>> > even think about how to change a diaper and not see while I do it".
>> >>>>>> You have many other issues in your post. Your sitter needs
>> to go if she's not behaving appropriately. Don't excuse her
>> > behavior.  Your son will learn boundaries, though his boundaries
>> may not be boundaries you like. That's ok, he's his own person.
>> > Convey to him that he can always tell somebody to stop what they
>> are doing, and that you will always have his back.   You won't
>> > convey this if you view his body as a disgusting thing that you
>> shouldn't have to deal with.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:10 AM
>> >>>>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I think it is time to get a doctor involved. The toileting
>> thing by itself
>> >>>>>> should be addressed because something is wrong. You can not
>> move forward
>> >>>>>> with any kind of training or addressing it from an emotional or
>> >>>>>> psychological stand point until you rule out some kind of
>> physical problem.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Please also talk to your doctor about getting a
>> developmental evaluation for
>> >>>>>> your son. I know my youngest son's audiologist has been
>> using the blocks in
>> >>>>>> the bucket with his testing since he was about two. I do not
>> want to worry
>> >>>>>> you, but you should move forward on this right away.
>> Developmental problems
>> >>>>>> are most easy to address with younger children.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I do have a thought on making living with the current
>> toileting situation
>> >>>>>> easier to live with though. Perhaps you could routinely
>> spend some time with
>> >>>>>> him just sitting on the toilet several times a day. Maybe singing
>> >>>>>> or
>> >>>>>> listening to music to entertain him? If he goes in the
>> toilet that is an
>> >>>>>> extra blessing because it is one less mess for someone else
>> to clean up. A
>> >>>>>> little time learning to relax on the toilet may also encourage him
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>> physically relax and be able to go. My thought is that
>> whatever the problem
>> >>>>>> is that is keeping him from becoming trained, this kind of
>> routine will aid
>> >>>>>> the situation. If you know what time he normally goes in his
>> pull up then
>> >>>>>> try to do this around that same time with the idea of
>> perhaps preventing
>> >>>>>> having to clean it yourself.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jennifer
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shannan
>> >>>>>> Zinck
>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:50 PM
>> >>>>>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>>> Subject: [blparent] update on our lives.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi all, it's been a long time. due to the condition with my
>> eye (which is
>> >>>>>> still ongoing) I have had to really limit my computer time
>> as I use large
>> >>>>>> print and not screen readers though if this goes on much
>> longer I may have
>> >>>>>> to consider that possibility just to keep in touch. Anyway a
>> >>>>>> couple
>> >>>>>> questions.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone has struggled with a much older
>> child with potty
>> >>>>>> training. Myles just turned 4 yesterday and is still not trained.
>> >>>>>> We
>> >>>>>> thought originally that he might just be stubborn but, now
>> I'm not so sure.
>> >>>>>> Though he is strong willed he does listen pretty good to us. He can
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>> playing along like nothing is happening and all of a sudden
>> he'll tell me
>> >>>>>> he peed but, that's only when his pullup is full and I mean
>> leaking and
>> >>>>>> running down his leg full. He can have several pees and not
>> even notice and
>> >>>>>> same with BM's he doesn't stop for those either. He knows
>> how to use the
>> >>>>>> toilet and even goes in by himself quite often but, really
>> it's hit and
>> >>>>>> miss even with a half hourly schedule. He says he can't tell
>> if he needs to
>> >>>>>> go or not and up until today I didn't believe him but, When he lies
>> >>>>>> he
>> >>>>>> changes his story constantly so he's easy to catch. He
>> maintains the same
>> >>>>>> story when it comes to knowing when he needs to go or not and say
>> >>>>>> he
>> >>>>>> doesn't know. I never know when he's going in his pants and
>> he is a major
>> >>>>>> people person so is in my space all the time so he is rarely
>> in a different
>> >>>>>> room then either his father or myself. We've been working on
>> potty training
>> >>>>>> for over 2 years now and recently even have been making him
>> change his own
>> >>>>>> pullup when wet. We thought this tactic would encourage him
>> to try harder
>> >>>>>> but no dice. # 2  he has never tried on the toilet and no
>> future prospect
>> >>>>>> is in sight for that. I'm beginning to get quite concerned
>> given his age. I
>> >>>>>> know physically he is a bit behind due to the drugs in his
>> system at birth
>> >>>>>> but, not enough to cause concern. He always catches up.
>> However at his age
>> >>>>>> we are getting to the place where babysitters are pretty
>> much impossible to
>> >>>>>> get because he is huge to begin with and no one wants to
>> change a kid that
>> >>>>>> age and size. He's 4 like I said and is over 3 feet tall
>> weighing well over
>> >>>>>> 40lbs. I can't stand changing him and I'm his mom so I can
>> just imagine how
>> >>>>>> a sitter would feel. When there is a medical issue it's easy
>> to explain it
>> >>>>>> but, when there's such a gray area to what could be wrong it's not
>> >>>>>> so
>> >>>>>> simple. I'm just plain discouraged and confused. I'm
>> wondering if it's time
>> >>>>>> to get a doctor involved or just wait it out and see if the slow
>> >>>>>> development is the problem. I'd hate to push the issue only
>> to find out
>> >>>>>> later that there was something wrong but, if it's just
>> laziness on his part
>> >>>>>> fd hat to let it go. He can't even get involved in group
>> activities yet
>> >>>>>> because he's not trained, it's down right embarrassing. You
>> know it's funny
>> >>>>>> that before I had kids of my own I swore I'd never have a
>> child who wasn't
>> >>>>>> trained by the time they were 2 and now look at us. For all
>> the parents who
>> >>>>>> struggle with or have struggled with this issue I apologize whole
>> >>>>>> heartedly. I realize now that you can't choose what life
>> will bring you all
>> >>>>>> you can do is work through it. Part of this is because with
>> my eye problems
>> >>>>>> as bad as they have been we decided for a short while to let
>> training go
>> >>>>>> because I am so limited in what I can do right now but, that
>> lovely issue
>> >>>>>> has been going on so long almost 2 years now that we can no
>> longer just
>> >>>>>> leave it alone. This past year has been a strange one for sure.
>> >>>>>> Also today we discovered that he seems to struggle with
>> putting 2 and 2
>> >>>>>> together. figuring out simple concepts so we wonder if that
>> has something
>> >>>>>> to do with potty training as well. We took him for a hearing
>> test and he
>> >>>>>> can hear fine however when asked to put blocks into a bucket
>> whenever he
>> >>>>>> heard a beep he couldn't do it for some reason. he wanted to
>> and when I did
>> >>>>>> it with him he did it fine but, when doing it himself he
>> couldn't. When the
>> >>>>>> doc asked him if he heard the beeps he said yes but, the
>> blocks never went
>> >>>>>> into the bucket. He knew he had to put them in the bucket
>> and he knew he
>> >>>>>> could hear the sounds but, he couldn't put the 2 things
>> together unless
>> >>>>>> some one was doing it with him which isn't a true test since
>> he was copying
>> >>>>>> me. Now he has to go back again in a few months. I would
>> have thought at
>> >>>>>> his age he'd have been able to figure out how the do this.
>> I'm wondering
>> >>>>>> what kids at his age should know how to do. average kids
>> that is. It's been
>> >>>>>> a long few months though I finally have a follow up
>> appointment for my eye
>> >>>>>> and am hoping they will finally tell me when they will get around
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>> removing it. About the babysitter thing also I'm concerned
>> about privacy.
>> >>>>>> He is older now and though he is not trained I not so sure about
>> >>>>>> how
>> >>>>>> comfortable I am with babysitters changing him. Maybe I'm
>> being paranoid
>> >>>>>> but, he is my son and I want to protect him. We are very
>> careful about who
>> >>>>>> babysits but, some people have different boundaries then others
>> >>>>>> He's
>> >>>>>> getting to an age where he needs to understand boundaries
>> and that hard to
>> >>>>>> do when everyone who looks after him has to change his butt.
>> One of the
>> >>>>>> only sitters we have due to his age that is willing does
>> things that make
>> >>>>>> me uncomfortable. She isn't intentionally doing wrong things
>> and nothing
>> >>>>>> alarming just concerning like the way she tickles him and
>> things like that.
>> >>>>>> She has little concept of proper boundaries and I'm not sure
>> how to deal
>> >>>>>> with this. She's the only sitter I've got yet I'm not so
>> sure she's good
>> >>>>>> for him. Don't get me wrong she not molesting him or
>> anything like that
>> >>>>>> she's too childlike herself for that but, she is too touchy feely
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> clingy for my liking. Just so you are aware I'm a VERY private
>> >>>>>> person
>> >>>>>> overly so, so some of this could be my own paranoia as well
>> but, I'm having
>> >>>>>> a hard time discerning this situation. I'm not willing to
>> have my son put
>> >>>>>> in harms way so I am really stomped on what to do here. I've
>> expressed this
>> >>>>>> to my husband and he isn't sure what to do either. She is 23
>> but, seems to
>> >>>>>> act like a 14 year old. not very mature at all. any ideas
>> sorry for the
>> >>>>>> book it's been a while. I'll try to keep in touch better.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Shannan Zinck
>> >>>>>> Survival is letting GOD take over!!!
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> blparent:hello my wife is not pregnet yet but. when she dos have a baby girl. her name will bee Obianuju ! y? Obianuju? Obianuju is a song from duckin mighty. Obianujuis also is a name. I love the name Obianuju!
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