[blparent] Guns (was A total stranger crosses the line)

Michael Babcock michael.babcock09 at gmail.com
Tue May 14 22:49:49 UTC 2013


Jennifer,
Unfortunately, I understand where you're coming from, however have to respectfully disagree with what you have said below. My son at this time, primarily lives in Alaska where most of the way that they actually get their food is by fishing, and hunting. Especially in the area that he lives, and children begin hunting with rifles at about eight or nine. Therefore, I honestly think that starting a child out at a age where he can begin learning responsibility of guns, at an early age. This is because of the fact that I honestly feel that teaching a child via repetitive methods, for example, if for Saheed does something that you don't like, you simply keep reminding him that it is an inappropriate action, he will learn at a younger age than trying to train or teach him this way at an older age. It is a lot like respective elders, for example my son knows that if you meet someone older, he is to call him or her server or ma'am, respectively. However, most parents say that this is inappropriate, because he is a young child, and should just call them by their name. When children get to school however they are expected to call individuals Mr. so-and-so, or Mrs. so and so, and or serve, or ma'am, therefore, teaching my son at a young age to call individuals order than him sir or ma'am, I think is a smart choice on my part. However, parenting is one of those arts that people do differently, and it may not be appropriate for a three-year-old in your environment or your family to have a gun, in our situation it is a matter of survival, is he going to want to eat when he's older and not have to drive 4 1/2 hours to the nearest store? That's the way that I look at it, but I do respectfully agree with some of the point you presented below. For example, if the parents are unwilling to supervise the child, you should just give a three-year-old a gun and let him go play with it. But, with supervision I think three or four is a good age to start teaching. It's almost like a reading, should they wait until they can actually comprehend what they are reading, before they start to learn to read or should they start to learn to read, and then tackle the comprehension after work? In relation to guns, we teach him to have respect for guns, and that they are tools, not toys to be played with. I would never give him a gun and save go play Nicholas, but I would say lets go with a sighted individual, and practice with your target shooting.

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On May 14, 2013, at 3:43 PM, "Jennifer Jackson" <jennifersjackson at att.net> wrote:

> In my opinion there is no gun appropriate for a 3 year old. I have been on
> the archery range with kids that young, and I just do not think a 3 year old
> needs to be shooting a gun. I do not think they are able to understand the
> true dangers involved with gun safety.  Of course a child can be closely
> supervised while shooting in a controlled environments. It just does not
> seem like the most practical use of resources to me.
> 
> 
> Jennifer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jo
> Elizabeth Pinto
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:28 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Guns (was A total stranger crosses the line)
> 
> What kind of a gun would be appropriate for a three-year-old, and 
> transitions into three types?  I'm really just curious, as I've never heard 
> of such a thing.
> 
> Jo Elizabeth
> 
> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may 
> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at 
> evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Michael Babcock
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:17 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Guns (was A total stranger crosses the line)
> 
> Gabe,
> I saw the subject line of this email, and had to chime in before I even read
> 
> your email. However, after reading your email, I 1,000,000% agree with 
> everything you say. My ex-wife, and, current fiancé have both been going 
> users and I have taken an interest in how they work, and what you can do 
> with them. When I tell other blind individuals this information, most of 
> them shy away and tell me that I am insane. But I asked them why? And again 
> we always go back to the point that you bring up below, the inequality 
> factor, and how every blind person wants to be equal to his or her site 
> appears but if it comes to dangerous things such as guns, they often shy 
> away from them. My three-year-old son for his third birthday, received a gun
> 
> that is one that transitions into three different types. Most say it's a 
> totally right? No, this gun could kill someone if it was used that way, but 
> we raise Nicholas to understand that Duntert pools not toys.
> 
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> 
> On May 13, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S <theblindtech at gmail.com>
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Being that I have the same rights as cited people. Remember the quality we
> 
>> ask for? That means I carry any gun concealed as long as I'm not a 
>> prohibited possessor. Also, I am totally blind. But very well-trained. I 
>> have owned assault rifles, handguns, and rifles. As well as shotguns. I 
>> have been trained by police officers and former military men. I have 
>> training in firearm retention, meaning how well I could keep my gun from 
>> others. As well as combat shooting meaning to close quarters shooting 
>> range and firing of my firearm. I know you're shocked, and I expect most 
>> people too. But again we all asked for it call me as blind people, and I 
>> take all that you call me I could get. I'm also a business owner an 
>> idyllic cash and I do with sensitive documents and monies from other 
>> people but I need to keep safe as well. Again remember the inequality that
> 
>> we all 54?
>> 
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:20 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Seriously?  Can you see at all?  Can a blind person get a concealed 
>>> weapons permit, as opposed to say a gun license for shooting at a range? 
>>> Would you really shoot someone for trying to help you cross the street, 
>>> even if you didn't want to go?  I'm not picking on you, Gabe, please 
>>> don't take it that way.  I'd ask these questions of anyone who posted 
>>> what you just did; I'm stunned.
>>> 
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you 
>>> may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full 
>>> at evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:10 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A total stranger crosses the line
>>> 
>>> Or, you could always carry a gun. I do. It is a Keltec P32 with a seven 
>>> round clip. I always have one chambered so in total I carry 18 rounds on 
>>> me. I also carry a 10 round extra magazine in my back pocket.
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> CEO
>>> Commtech LLC
>>> The leader of computer support, training and web development services
>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
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>>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>>> Phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 710
>>> Fax: (480) 535-7649
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