[blparent] Guns (was A total stranger crosses the line)

[Jennifer Jackson]

Perhaps we are thinking of different circumstances here? Gabe seems to be
indicating an actual assault, but I believe the actual original topic was
about someone who was being a nuisance. Of course those situations require
different responses.


Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
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That is a weird form of self-defense. I've never heard of that philosophy.
In my self-defense, I don't aim to simply make the situation stop. I ain't
to make the person stop. Because if the person has the scruples or lack
there of to bother a blind man and/or woman who can't see and who has a
disadvantage, then who knows what else are capable of.

Gabe Vega 
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On May 16, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't try to hurt somebody who was pulling me somewhere or being
> inappropriately helpful, unless they were actually putting me in
> danger and verbal requests and/or jerking away didn't work. For
> example, if somebody tried to drag me across the street while
> perpendicular traffic was going by and could hit me, I would say no,
> plant my feet, jerk my arm and resort to self-defense only if none of
> the above worked. Or I might if somebody tried to actually lift me up
> and carry me somewhere in such a way that I couldn't break free and I
> didn't know where they were taking me. Even if I did use a strategic
> punch or kick, the goal wouldn't be to seriously hurt them, but just
> to disable long enough so that I could get out of the dangerous
> situation.
> Arielle
> 
> On 5/16/13, Veronica Smith <madison_tewe at spinn.net> wrote:
>> I did none of the above.
>> But now that you mentioned it, self defense is a good thing as for some,
>> guns, but seriously, if someone wanted to help you across the street and
>> grabbed you thinking they were just helping, you wouldn't pull out your
>> gun,
>> would you? On the otherhand, you might snap your arms up or down to break
>> the hold, but you wouldn't reach out and poke them in the eye. Or would
>> you?
>> Protecting yourself from creepy peeps is good, but not everyone is a
creepy
>> peep.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe
Vega
>> Via Iphone4S
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:15 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Guns (was A total stranger crosses the line)
>> 
>> But it's okay to bring up self-defense classes? Poking out eyes? Keep you
>> know people? An injury people physically with your hands?
>> 
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> CEO
>> Commtech LLC
>> The leader of computer support, training and web development services
>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>> Phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 710
>> Fax: (480) 535-7649
>> 
>> On May 15, 2013, at 2:37 PM, "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not shocked at all, but the topic was when strangers cross the line
>>> and I was talking about being dragged across the street when all I
>>> wanted to do wa stand and wait for my friend. I'm sure that carrying a
>>> gun for protecton is not a bad idea for some, not for me though!
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe
>>> Vega Via Iphone4S
>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:48 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Guns (was A total stranger crosses the line)
>>> 
>>> Being that I have the same rights as cited people. Remember the
>>> quality we ask for? That means I carry any gun concealed as long as
>>> I'm not a prohibited possessor. Also, I am totally blind. But very
>>> well-trained. I have owned assault rifles, handguns, and rifles. As
>>> well as shotguns. I have been trained by police officers and former
>>> military men. I have training in firearm retention, meaning how well I
>>> could keep my gun from others. As well as combat shooting meaning to
>>> close quarters shooting range and firing of my firearm. I know you're
>>> shocked, and I expect most people too. But again we all asked for it
>>> call me as blind people, and I take all that you call me I could get.
>>> I'm also a business owner an idyllic cash and I do with sensitive
>> documents and monies from other people but I need to keep safe as well.
>>> Again remember the inequality that we all 54?
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> CEO
>>> Commtech LLC
>>> The leader of computer support, training and web development services
>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>>> Phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 710
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>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:20 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Seriously?  Can you see at all?  Can a blind person get a concealed
>>> weapons permit, as opposed to say a gun license for shooting at a range?
>>> Would you really shoot someone for trying to help you cross the
>>> street, even if you didn't want to go?  I'm not picking on you, Gabe,
>>> please don't take it that way.  I'd ask these questions of anyone who
>>> posted what you just did; I'm stunned.
>>>> 
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>> 
>>>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay,
>>>> you may
>>> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full
>>> at evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:10 PM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] A total stranger crosses the line
>>>> 
>>>> Or, you could always carry a gun. I do. It is a Keltec P32 with a
>>>> seven
>>> round clip. I always have one chambered so in total I carry 18 rounds on
>> me.
>>> I also carry a 10 round extra magazine in my back pocket.
>>>> 
>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> CEO
>>>> Commtech LLC
>>>> The leader of computer support, training and web development services
>>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>>>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>>>> Phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 710
>>>> Fax: (480) 535-7649
>>>> 
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