[blparent] [Bulk] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From BeingHitby a Car

Gabe Vega theblindtech at gmail.com
Tue Sep 24 12:54:31 UTC 2013 

this is a simple legal decision. its called not wanting to be liable in case anything happens. by them training a dog to guide some one safely and if they included and certified the dog to guide with another component such as a child and then certifying it as safe. they then can be held liable. so from a business stand point I agree with them.
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On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:47 AM, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd agree with this. Many of the guide dog schools seem to operate in a
> vacuum, bywhich I mean, they can teach a person how to use a dog, but add
> another component, a hobby that isn't really dog compitable, a kid, any
> number of things, and the schools have no clue. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michelle
> Creedy 
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:12 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From
> BeingHitby a Car
> 
> Maybe it's an opportunity to create more awareness out there as terrible as
> that sounds. So many guide dog schools won't deal with the issues of
> parenting and using a guide dog. I no longer use a dog but when I did, there
> were lots of people having issues with schools saying they couldn't travel
> safely. This made parents feel uncomfortable talking about the issues they
> were facing so they'd basically go wing it. Perhaps there needs to be more
> of bringing these issues out into the open and making people feel more
> empowered as the NFB does to share strategies. This is why having something
> like the NFB is a very good resource. I only hope our Canadian training
> center gets up and running soon!
> 
> Michelle
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
> Via Iphone4S
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:52 AM
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> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From
> BeingHitby a Car
> 
> taking these issues into account, it still shows negligence on the side of
> the mother. If it was windy and she couldn't hear, maybe she could take her
> own safety and get herself killed, but to put the baby in danger, was wrong.
> If she has a hearing loss again traveling with the baby is not very safe,
> there's so many things that seem very funny to the story. I don't know why
> were trying to take it as something it's not it's not a feel-good story it's
> a sad tragedy that make the blind look in capable
> 
> Gabe Vega
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>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Could be any of these. It could also be that it was very windy, or she 
>> has a hearing loss. Maybe she was overtired and used very poor judgement.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Arielle Silverman
>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:34 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From 
>> BeingHitby a Car
>> 
>> I'm also confused about how a car almost hit the baby stroller when 
>> the mom was "getting ready" to cross the street. If she was waiting 
>> for traffic to clear, wouldn't she be waiting at the curb? Did a car 
>> try
> to jump the curb?
>> Or was she waiting a little too far into the street? Or did  she step 
>> out to cross right before a  car came through? Why didn't she hear the 
>> car? I've never been almost hit by a car while waiting to cross and 
>> something doesn't quite sound safe about this situation. I hope the 
>> mom is able to learn from whatever travel mistake might have allowed 
>> this
> to happen.
>> 
>> Arielle
>> 
>>> On 9/23/13, Tammy <tcl189 at rogers.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> How would you know whether it's safe or not?  Maybe she was taught 
>>> and the dog was taught to push a stroller?  Just because I don't 
>>> think it's safe doesn't mean it's wrong, and I have no right to 
>>> question or judge and neither do you.  As far as I know you've never 
>>> even had a guide dog, so how
>>> 
>>> would you know good practices or the capabilities of a guide dog team?
>>> Ultimately the baby was saved by the guidedog and whatever the mother 
>>> did or
>>> 
>>> didn't do had no part in it.  The car could have easily been coming 
>>> from the
>>> 
>>> other direction and the same think might have happened.  So your 
>>> point, while taken, was pointless.
>>> 
>>> Tammy
>>> 
>>> Tammy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:52 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From 
>>> BeingHitby a Car
>>> 
>>> maybe, but that's just like her driving a car. The practice might be 
>>> done it's still not safe. She should probably be investigated for 
>>> neglect, something similar, because she wasn't taking her baby safety 
>>> serious by steering something when you can't see.
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Tammy" <tcl189 at rogers.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know some people who are blind who push their strollers ahead of 
>>>> them while using a guide dog and although I dont' agree with the 
>>>> practice, some
>>>> 
>>>> schools teach their dogs to guide that way if necessary.  A stroller 
>>>> is much easier to push then to pull and maybe she felt comfortable 
>>>> pushing hers.
>>>> 
>>>> Tammy
>>>> --Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:14 AM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From 
>>>> Being Hitby a Car
>>>> 
>>>> Was no one else asking themselves, what was this blind mother doing 
>>>> pushing her stroller I had of her when crossing a street, does this 
>>>> not place the baby in danger if she was totally blind? Sounds kind 
>>>> of funny to
>>>> 
>>>> me, and I get the gist of the story is the capabilities and/or 
>>>> intuition of the guy dog, but I have more questions than answers at 
>>>> this point
>>>> 
>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> CEO
>>>> Commtech LLC
>>>> The leader of computer support, training and web development 
>>>> services
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>>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:52 AM, "Tammy" <tcl189 at rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, all 3 of them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tammy
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:54 AM Subject: [Bulk] 
>>>>> [blparent] Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From Being Hit by a Car
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mom's Guide Dog Saves Her Baby From Being Hit by a Car by Mary 
>>>>> Fischer Friday at 1:12 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mom Jessica Crowley is thanking her lucky stars after her guide dog 
>>>>> saved
>>>>> 
>>>>> her baby's life by pushing his stroller out of the way of a car 
>>>>> that was
>>>>> 
>>>>> heading straight for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica is registered blind, and her black lab, Jet, has been by 
>>>>> her side
>>>>> 
>>>>> for five years. While getting ready to cross the street pushing her 
>>>>> son Jacob's stroller, she heard the screech of a car coming in 
>>>>> their direction. And just before it hit, Jet broke loose from 
>>>>> Jessica's grip and knocked the stroller out of the way. It did fall 
>>>>> over and the baby wound up with a cut on his lip, but if it weren't 
>>>>> for Jet's quick actions, something much worse could have happened.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica says that Jet loves little Jacob as if he were her own, 
>>>>> which is
>>>>> 
>>>>> evident based on how she reacted when she realized he was in danger. 
>>>>> Who
>>>>> 
>>>>> says a dog can't have mama bear instincts -- even if a human baby 
>>>>> is the
>>>>> 
>>>>> one she's trying to protect? It's amazing how even though she's 
>>>>> trained to assist Jessica, she immediately switched gears and came 
>>>>> to Jacob's rescue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sure this mom keeps replaying what happened over and over again 
>>>>> in her mind -- I know I would if my son had almost been hit by a 
>>>>> car. And I
>>>>> 
>>>>> don't know how I'd ever be able to give that dog enough love and 
>>>>> praise to thank her for what she did -- though something tells me 
>>>>> dogs do what they feel is right without expecting anything much in
>> return.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What a blessing it is that Jessica had Jet with her that day. I'm 
>>>>> sure every time she hears her sweet baby boy's voice, she's once 
>>>>> again reminded of what a gem of a dog she has in her life!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is your dog protective of your baby?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://thestir.cafemom.com/baby/161452/moms_guide_dog_saves_her
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>> 
>>>>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, 
>>>>> you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round 
>>>>> and full
>>>>> 
>>>>> at evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
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