[blparent] Has anybody heard these Learn More 924 commercials on the radio?

Fri Jan 10 20:59:13 UTC 2014

I think some of you misinterpreted my words. I did not say sleep
disorder does not exist.
I said it cannot be blamed simply on total blindness. Other factors
may be involved. Although totally blind I did not experience sleep
disorder in my younger days, but now I do. So aging can be a factor.
Lack of exercise can be another. and one can go on and on.
And what's a light box and what does it do? Would it help someone like
me with no light perception?

On 1/10/14, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jennifer's post is great.
> My problem with the post below hers is that it comes across as if you think
> anybody who has non24 disorder is just sitting on their asses all day.
> I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes with my current pregnancy. I had
> two glucose tolerance tests to prove it. As a result, I need to eat
> differently, and test my glucose several times a day.
> Gestational diabetes has always been around. If not controlled, it can lead
> to some interesting things, strange behavior in women, (think agigation, too
> much sleepiness, being very anxious, huge weight gain) not to mention bad
> impacts to the baby.
> It has only been very recently that pregnant women are tested as a matter of
> course for gestational diabetes. Many of our moms were not tested because
> while their symptoms were real and not caused by "crazy pregnant lady" the
> medical industry hadn't developed the tools and the knowllege base to deal
> with it. Home glucose meters didn't exist. Nobody was real sure what role
> sugar played and how it was played.
> And, there are still some people that refuse to grasp that gestational
> diabetes is very real. I was talking with a friend a few weeks back, an
> older gentleman who told me "I don't believe in that, my wife never had that
> problem, I think the medical industry just needs something to do". This was
> n the context of dinner when I told him why I was saying no to a food I'd
> normally eat and explaining why.
> The midwife I saw yesterday told me that they used to think pregnant women
> who gained obscene amounts of weight were just eating too much and needed to
> step away from the table. Some of them probably do, and she readily admitted
> that. She also said that huge weight gains are often a sign of gestational
> diabetes and it's how the body is processing or not processing sugar. That
> can be resolved, but only if you know about it.
> It's fine not to believe in non24 disorder or anything else. That's your
> choice. Be careful though in expressing those beliefs as you minimize the
> experiences of people who know something isn't right, and can't quite put
> their finger on it. And, if you are proven correct, what have you lost?
> I say all this because non24 disorder and the "is it, isn't it" real debate
> reminds me a lot of women's health issues. Many of them are issues women
> have experienced and written about for thousands of years, and only now are
> we realizing that there truly is some medical stuff going on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer
> Stewart Jackson
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:05 AM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Has anybody heard these Learn More 924 commercials
> on the radio?
>
> You may not believe in this sleep disorder, but several of our list members
> apparently do as they expressed in responses to this same message that they
> struggle with it. You have very good points about some other contributing
> factors, but that does not mean the condition itself is not also a valid
> one. Melatonin is produced in the body as a natural response to light and is
> a direct part of our functioning on a 24 hour circadian rhythm. Many things
> can happen to interfere with this natural cycle of course. People who work
> nights and those who live in regions like Alaska often struggle with the
> same kind of problems.
> This may be part of why you did not struggle with this condition as a child
> as you still had some light perception. I think the process has something to
> do with the retina, so those with prosthetics or severe damage to the retina
> are going to be strongly effected in this way. If you check out some of the
> old studies on sensory deprivation, there is a lot of evidence about people
> developing a 25 to 26 hour rhythm when deprived of light.
>
> As women, we also can have many interruptions to our cycle that are hormonal
> related.
>
> All of this is why we have a food and drug administration in this country.
> An extensive study had to be done with control groups and other research
> into the causal aspect of this condition as part of getting the medication
> approved. Of course if it is labeled a supplement as opposed to a drug, the
> standards are lower, but they do still have to submit evidence.
>
> Goodness knows what this drug company is going to charge to recoup those
> expenses either. I think it would be interesting to find out if government
> dollars funded this research too, but my cynicism about drug corporations
> and the US Food and Drug folks is definitely straying way off topic.
>
> One of my children has a different sleep disorder and people often just do
> not seem to get it. We jump through a lot of hoops around here to keep that
> child even sleeping a few hours every night. Sleep disorders are a real
> struggle for some people. I know I became a true believer somewhere in the
> process of the numerous ER trips with an unconscious child who even the
> paramedics could not wake up when his little body finally just shut down and
> put him into that deep a sleep. At least twice in the middle of the school
> day. I know I have shared about these s struggles with Henry here before,
> but I know we have some new people who might want to know why I am so
> interested in sleep disorders.
>
>
> Jennifer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:42 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Has anybody heard these Learn More 924 commercials
> on the radio?
>
> I doubt it if sleep disorder is due to total blindness. I have been totally
> blind almost all of my life, only light perception during early childhood.
> In my younger days I did sleep very well, but it is only now that I I am
> older that I sleep only about 4 hours per night.
> I would say that one may have sleep disorder whether blind or not.
> People have this disorder as they get older.
> Another thing that needs consideration is how physically tired one is.
> Many blind people are very sedantic, lacking physical exercise. No doubt,
> getting sufficient exercise will help one's sleep.  It works for me.
> As far as comercials are concerned, I do not take them seriously, because
> they are produced to sell a product and not necessarily improve lives.
>
> On 1/10/14, Sharon Howerton <shrnhow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They are on every day here in Chicago and it is actually non 24.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Robert Shelton
>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:30 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Has anybody heard these Learn More 924
>> commercials onthe radio?
>>
>> Yep, it is real, but I have a big problem with the commercials.  The
>> speaker starts off by saying "You can't see me because this is radio,
>> and I can't see you because I'm totally blind."  Cute, I suppose, but
>> cheesy.  Then he goes off into this business about how he can't
>> concentrate on anything during the day, leaving the clear impression
>> that it is because of his blindness.  Were I in the position of a
>> sighted person thinking about hiring someone in a critical position,
>> and a blind person showed up, that commercial would add to any and
>> every other misconception about blindness I might have.
>>
>> So, maybe Vanda is working on a beneficial compound, but their way of
>> drumming up business strikes me as patronizing at best.
>>
>> OK, not about blind parenting, so no more from me on this.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: trising at sbcglobal.net [mailto:trising at sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:47 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Has anybody heard these Learn More 924
>> commercials onthe radio?
>>
>>     Yes, Non24 sleep disorder is real. I have it, and Melatonin helps.
>> Vanda
>> Pharmaceuticals is coming out with a medication that will help more
>> than Melatonin. I have not heard the commercials. There is also a
>> website if you are interested. If you put Non24 into your favorite
>> search engine, you will find it.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Terri Wilcox
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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