[blparent] email from school

Thu Feb 19 19:10:47 UTC 2015

I have a book share membership, but can't get the textbooks because they are
just for school students.  I am in contact with Debby and she is going to do
research and get back with me when she finds out what is going on and why we
can't get the books.

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson via blparent
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:07 PM
To: Dianna via blparent
Subject: Re: [blparent] email from school

Diana,

It is never easy to hear opinions that may differ from yours, but on the
other hand, I've asked several times for specifics of what you were told
about getting textbooks, and unless I have missed your responses, I have not
received any answers.  In fact, some of the information I remember getting
seemed to conflict, unless I misunderstood.

Are you a member of BookShare already?  If you are a member, were you told
that they have the textbooks you need but that you could not get the
textbooks from BookShare because you were not a student or teacher?  If you
are not a member of BookShare, have you spoken to them directly regarding
these textbooks?  It is important that we understand if disabled parents are
not able to get textbooks that are available in accessible format so we can
consider ways of fixing that.  

If you can establish that BookShare could get the textbooks you need, your
school might be able to help you get permission from the publishers if that
is needed.  Time is passing, though, so we really need to understand what
you have tried and what you have been told.  You can't depend upon
information that you may have gotten from people who don't really know what
is possible, and in this case, I don't think you can assume that the law
will necessarily help you.  Even if it could help, legal action wouldn't be
quick enough.  

It really is important to realize that the people with whom you are dealing
are not likely at all knowledgeable of how you might access material.  This
isn't an opinion, it is fact.  They may also not see it as their
responsibility to help a parent deal with this, although that doesn't mean
they might not be willing to help if approached carefully.  I know that
Deborah Kent Stein has offered to talk through some of this with you, and
others of us are certainly interested in your situation and may be able to
offer suggestions.  We need to know specifics to help, and you should try to
understand that those urging you to be careful when communicating with your
school are only saying that because we care about you and your child.
Sometimes the world is more complicated than a simple right or wrong.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:33:08 -0600, Dianna via blparent wrote:

>You all are entitled to your opinions, but if you do not take seats 
>when they are offered here in Chicago you lose them and it is a hy bred 
>school not home schooling.  She does both work at home and at school.  
>When you are blind sometimes it does not matter what you do your ducks 
>won't be where they should be for people to believe in your abilities 
>so I am going to do what I want and feel is right for my child.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star 
>Gazer via blparent
>Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:30 AM
>To: 'Judy Jones'; 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [blparent] email from school

>Yes. 
>It sounds like you didn't have your ducks in a row when you decided to 
>homeschool. Remember how some of us advised you to do this before 
>starting out? Now you know why.
>My suggestion would be to put your daughter back in school, get things 
>all set up to homeschool and then do that if you still think you need to.
>Realize that the school you've chosen doesn't know you from a hole in 
>the wall, so has no clue how you will do things or what your intentions
are.
>You don't sound adversial in your note to the school, you sound 
>downright hostile. There is a huge difference.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy 
>Jones via blparent
>Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:56 AM
>To: Dianna; Blind Parents Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [blparent] email from school

>The assumption here seems to be you cannot get at the printed word, or 
>at least, the admin not understanding how you would access the print.  
>This is very common in the sighted world, unless someone has been 
>exposed to the idea of  screen-reading software, and very understandable.

>It sounds like a case of not knowing, very understandable.  I found 
>that with my girls, once sighted teachers and administrators understood 
>how I planned to access the printed word, there were no more problems.  
>We experienced private and public schools, as well as homeschooling.

>Now, the un-knowing could turn into ignorance if the admin refuses to 
>accept your alternatives to learning.  My question would be, how they 
>would accommodate a disabled student at their school.

>When I think back on it, the textbooks I used with my girls in our home 
>schooling years were part of that school's curriculum and were online, 
>but that requirement for me as the teaching parent was a factor in 
>helping us choose that school..

>Judy

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dianna via blparent
>Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:18 PM
>To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>Subject: [blparent] email from school

>Here is what the head of school had to say.  She makes her school look 
>bad and my theory is if they can't believe in the learning coaches then 
>how can they teach their students to believe in themselves even if they 
>have a disability.  They decided to work with me on some level anyway 
>since one of the admin staff stood up for me and said he believed in me and
my abilities.
>I am very determined to make it work for my child and I.  We may decide 
>something different in a few years, but right now she needs this.

>Diana-

>This program requires a parent to read and do the work with the child.
>Children cannot just work through the program on their own. It requires 
>the parent to work through each lesson with the child  daily and it 
>takes the child and parent 5 hours a day on average working together to 
>complete the work.

>I will have Ms. Tucker follow up with you tomorrow to discuss in detail 
>how this works.

>Here is my reply.

>I understand all of this I am not stupid.  I have no intentions of my 
>child doing her work alone.  That would defeat the whole point of wanting
to
>school her this way.  It would make no since either.   I use a screen
reader
>program to read my screen.  She just happens to know how to use a mouse 
>already which makes us get to places faster and she will be able to log 
>in one  computer while I read on the other since she needs a screen and 
>I do not.  I close my screen half the time.  I can hear as well.  I 
>heard the requirements and expectations in orientation.  I also signed 
>them.  My signature counts for something and I uphold what I sign.  I 
>also can read books if I have them brailed as well as scanned print 
>with a scanning program on my computer as well as my iPhone.  This will 
>give me a reason to totally learn my iPhone scanning program that I have.

>From: Biasbas, Amy [mailto:agbiasbas at k12.com]

>_______________________________________________
>blparent mailing list
>blparent at nfbnet.org
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>blparent:
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent_nfbnet.org/jtj1%40cableone.n
>et

>_______________________________________________
>blparent mailing list
>blparent at nfbnet.org
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>blparent:
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent_nfbnet.org/pickrellrebecca%4
>0gmai
>l.com

>_______________________________________________
>blparent mailing list
>blparent at nfbnet.org
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>blparent:
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent_nfbnet.org/dianna24%40earthl
>ink.n
>et

>_______________________________________________
>blparent mailing list
>blparent at nfbnet.org
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blparent:
>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40
>visi.com

_______________________________________________
blparent mailing list
blparent at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
blparent:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent_nfbnet.org/dianna24%40earthlink.n
et