[blparent] walking with older children
Michelle Creedy
michelle.creedy at gmail.com
Wed Sep 2 15:49:36 UTC 2015
Hi Julie
Thanks so much for the feedback. I really appreciate it and actually, this
may be a good conversation to bring up at Love and Logic class tomorrow.
Michelle
-----Original Message-----
From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
via blparent
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:31 AM
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Cc: Julie J.
Subject: Re: [blparent] walking with older children
I think the cultural component to this discussion is interesting. There was
a time when all children were put on leading strings or apron strings for
the single purpose of keeping track of them, by sighted folks no less. I
suppose when Moms couldn't stay at home so much and had to enter the work
force and kids began to be cared for in day care centers, apron strings were
no longer an option.
Anyway...older children...Michelle I think you are on the right track.
Perhaps just a brief explanation of what you need from the child, things
like needing to check in with them from time to time and how they need to
respond promptly when you say their name and waiting for you at the corner
if they get ahead. Or if you are not okay with them getting ahead, letting
them know that. Whatever your expectations are, make them clear, in a kind
way, to the child. Then try to keep a conversation going as you walk. The
first few times might be a little awkward or slower, but as you get to know
each other and are more comfortable, it will feel much more natural.
Julie
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Creedy via blparent
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:10 AM
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Cc: Michelle Creedy
Subject: Re: [blparent] blparent Digest, Vol 136, Issue 2
I agree and frankly, it happens to anyone not just blind parents.
What about older ones who do understand? Any thoughts on a child who is
eight or so?
Michelle
-----Original Message-----
From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Meuse
via blparent
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:55 AM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Cc: Wendy Meuse
Subject: Re: [blparent] blparent Digest, Vol 136, Issue 2
I used things similar this when my daughter was small. i had someone
aproach me and ask how I could be so cruel? I just replied
that I thought it would be a lot more cruel to let my child be hit by a car
or something like that. I have heard about people
losing their children to speeding cars when they rushed out into the road
and the parent could not grab them quickly enough so this
certainly is not cruel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernadette Jacobs via blparent" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] blparent Digest, Vol 136, Issue 2
Firstly, regarding the issue of inaccessibility on the websites, for one
thing, if I hear that something is from Yahoo! Groups I do
not bother with it because it is Yahoo! Groups that is completely
inaccessible. So, I don't bother, Sperry ourselves.
Second regarding the issue of walking with children. I have known some
parents to think this is cool. However, I believe it is not.
At Walmart you can buy something called a monkey. It's straps onto your
child like a front pack and makes it look like the monkey is
cuddling with the child on the back of the monkey is an adjustable strap
that you can adjust the tightness around the child also, on
the back, is a long strap that you can wear on your wrist so that the child
can walk with you and will not get away. You can
adjusted so that the child will only go so far. That's how I have done it
with my Virginia and David I have also seen wrist straps
the small wrist strap ties onto the child's rest. This, too, have a long
strap that you could wear on your own wrist at the other
end. This, two is adjustable so that your child will only go so far. This
will work when the child is older and two large for the
monkey.
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> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:02:21 -0500
> From: "Dianna" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
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> I look at it like this all resources are good so I don't think you should
> get in trouble for it, but I know how people are when it comes to
> advertising so who knows. Thanks for the resource though.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wendy
Meuse
> via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:49 AM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Wendy Meuse <w_meuse at telus.net>
> Subject: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
> I don't know if i am allowed to do this. If not, could the mods please
give
> my wrist a slap and tell me not to do it again.
>
> Some friends and I had a blindparenting group on yahoogroups which became
> inaccessible. We had a good ggroup there, but we gradually slacked off as
> it was so hard to use the group. i am in no way suggesting that people
> switch grroups, but I thought that sometimes it is good to have more then
> one group to belong too as we can be in touch with more blind parents.
The
> more parents we can be in touch with, the more support we can gain. Just
an
> idea and I hope I am not in trouble for this. i belong to both hgroups
and
> I would not like to think of being kicked off of one group because I
belong
> to another. It is very small now, but we are trying to find more members
> who would like to join us and pass their wisdom or questions along to us.
I
> know that some of the gals who were with us before go on to facebook and I
> have heard that facebook groups are a good source of support too but there
> are still a few of us who feel more comfortable with E-mail groups. I
don't
> really have anyone to show mme how to use facebook. i belonged when Gary
> and I were together but I found it very frustrating. I know a lot of
blind
> people have no trouble with it, but oh man I
> sure did. All the ads and pictures and things just threw me for a loop
> ehehehehehehehe! I know. I am behind the times. My
> grand sons have told me countless times. Anyway if any of you are
> interested, the subscription info is:
> blindparenting+subscribe at groups.io
>
>
> Thanks you for reading. Your friend Wendy.
> God knows the end from the beginning so we can trust him with everything
in
> between.
>
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:14:39 -0400
> From: Jessica Reed <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
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> I agree. Thanks for passing along.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Dianna via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>>
>> I look at it like this all resources are good so I don't think you should
>> get in trouble for it, but I know how people are when it comes to
>> advertising so who knows. Thanks for the resource though.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wendy
Meuse
>> via blparent
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:49 AM
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Wendy Meuse <w_meuse at telus.net>
>> Subject: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>>
>> I don't know if i am allowed to do this. If not, could the mods please
give
>> my wrist a slap and tell me not to do it again.
>>
>> Some friends and I had a blindparenting group on yahoogroups which
became
>> inaccessible. We had a good ggroup there, but we gradually slacked off
as
>> it was so hard to use the group. i am in no way suggesting that people
>> switch grroups, but I thought that sometimes it is good to have more then
>> one group to belong too as we can be in touch with more blind parents.
The
>> more parents we can be in touch with, the more support we can gain. Just
an
>> idea and I hope I am not in trouble for this. i belong to both hgroups
and
>> I would not like to think of being kicked off of one group because I
belong
>> to another. It is very small now, but we are trying to find more members
>> who would like to join us and pass their wisdom or questions along to us.
I
>> know that some of the gals who were with us before go on to facebook and
I
>> have heard that facebook groups are a good source of support too but
there
>> are still a few of us who feel more comfortable with E-mail groups. I
don't
>> really have anyone to show mme how to use facebook. i belonged when Gary
>> and I were together but I found it very frustrating. I know a lot of
blind
>> people have no trouble with it, but oh man I
>> sure did. All the ads and pictures and things just threw me for a loop
>> ehehehehehehehe! I know. I am behind the times. My
>> grand sons have told me countless times. Anyway if any of you are
>> interested, the subscription info is:
>> blindparenting+subscribe at groups.io
>>
>>
>> Thanks you for reading. Your friend Wendy.
>> God knows the end from the beginning so we can trust him with everything
in
>> between.
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 13:51:58 +0000
> From: Judy Jones <Judy.Jones at icbvi.idaho.gov>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
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> To me, the more blind parents and resources the better, and it shouldn't
matter how.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wendy
Meuse via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:49 AM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Wendy Meuse
> Subject: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
> I don't know if i am allowed to do this. If not, could the mods please
give my wrist a slap and tell me not to do it again.
>
> Some friends and I had a blindparenting group on yahoogroups which became
inaccessible. We had a good ggroup there, but we
> gradually slacked off as it was so hard to use the group. i am in no way
suggesting that people switch grroups, but I thought
> that sometimes it is good to have more then one group to belong too as we
can be in touch with more blind parents. The more
> parents we can be in touch with, the more support we can gain. Just an
idea and I hope I am not in trouble for this. i belong to
> both hgroups and I would not like to think of being kicked off of one
group because I belong to another. It is very small now,
> but we are trying to find more members who would like to join us and pass
their wisdom or questions along to us. I know that some
> of the gals who were with us before go on to facebook and I have heard
that facebook groups are a good source of support too but
> there are still a few of us who feel more comfortable with E-mail groups.
I don't really have anyone to show mme how to use
> facebook. i belonged when Gary and I were together but I found it very
frustrating. I know a lot of blind people have no trouble
> with it, but oh man I
> sure did. All the ads and pictures and things just threw me for a loop
ehehehehehehehe! I know. I am behind the times. My
> grand sons have told me countless times. Anyway if any of you are
interested, the subscription info is:
> blindparenting+subscribe at groups.io
>
>
> Thanks you for reading. Your friend Wendy.
> God knows the end from the beginning so we can trust him with everything
in between.
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:15:36 -0400
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
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> Hmm, I seem to remember Paula's name and
> from what I remember that list was full of "Johnny barfed today" with a
lot
> of "praying for Johnny!" posts.
> Resources are good but you do need to get off the computer and actually
> interact with your kids and the world around them. All this is to say that
> if the list is good, use it, just don't feel like you have to be on it
> because it's about blind parents.
> Also, the advice given on the list may be slanted to Europe. That's fine
so
> far as it goes but may not apply to folks in the states. Example is that
in
> Europe the governments in many countries pay for sighted helpers. We don't
> have that here, so if we use sighted assistance, we are on our own to find
> and vet. Also, the school schedule is different in Europe, they have more
> breaks during the year instead of a long summer off. That makes a
difference
> in terms of how you do things. Ditto for getting your kids to and from
> school, in England you may have your kid going to school right down the
> street or you may have your kid going fifteen km away.
> All this is to say, use your head folks and do what makes sense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy
Jones
> via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:52 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <Judy.Jones at icbvi.idaho.gov>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
> To me, the more blind parents and resources the better, and it shouldn't
> matter how.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wendy
Meuse
> via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:49 AM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Wendy Meuse
> Subject: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
> I don't know if i am allowed to do this. If not, could the mods please
give
> my wrist a slap and tell me not to do it again.
>
> Some friends and I had a blindparenting group on yahoogroups which became
> inaccessible. We had a good ggroup there, but we gradually slacked off as
> it was so hard to use the group. i am in no way suggesting that people
> switch grroups, but I thought that sometimes it is good to have more then
> one group to belong too as we can be in touch with more blind parents.
The
> more parents we can be in touch with, the more support we can gain. Just
an
> idea and I hope I am not in trouble for this. i belong to both hgroups
and
> I would not like to think of being kicked off of one group because I
belong
> to another. It is very small now, but we are trying to find more members
> who would like to join us and pass their wisdom or questions along to us.
I
> know that some of the gals who were with us before go on to facebook and I
> have heard that facebook groups are a good source of support too but there
> are still a few of us who feel more comfortable with E-mail groups. I
don't
> really have anyone to show mme how to use facebook. i belonged when Gary
> and I were together but I found it very frustrating. I know a lot of
blind
> people have no trouble with it, but oh man I
> sure did. All the ads and pictures and things just threw me for a loop
> ehehehehehehehe! I know. I am behind the times. My
> grand sons have told me countless times. Anyway if any of you are
> interested, the subscription info is:
> blindparenting+subscribe at groups.io
>
>
> Thanks you for reading. Your friend Wendy.
> God knows the end from the beginning so we can trust him with everything
in
> between.
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:07:04 -0700
> From: "Wendy Meuse" <w_meuse at telus.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
> Message-ID: <C2005D8AEA594090890D3FD8094E7B58 at userpx03u2wk17>
>
> Most of the people who have been on the list are from the States and two
of us from Canada so although I am interested in what
> goes
> on in Europe, that is not talked about much. There is also a parent of an
older child, nineteen I believe who is from new Zealand
> who also has a lot of good advice to offer. i certainly don't like it
when there is infighting in a group and if there is, i just
> don't contribute to it that is for sure.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Star Gazer via blparent" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
>
> Hmm, I seem to remember Paula's name and
> from what I remember that list was full of "Johnny barfed today" with a
lot
> of "praying for Johnny!" posts.
> Resources are good but you do need to get off the computer and actually
> interact with your kids and the world around them. All this is to say that
> if the list is good, use it, just don't feel like you have to be on it
> because it's about blind parents.
> Also, the advice given on the list may be slanted to Europe. That's fine
so
> far as it goes but may not apply to folks in the states. Example is that
in
> Europe the governments in many countries pay for sighted helpers. We don't
> have that here, so if we use sighted assistance, we are on our own to find
> and vet. Also, the school schedule is different in Europe, they have more
> breaks during the year instead of a long summer off. That makes a
difference
> in terms of how you do things. Ditto for getting your kids to and from
> school, in England you may have your kid going to school right down the
> street or you may have your kid going fifteen km away.
> All this is to say, use your head folks and do what makes sense.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy
Jones
> via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:52 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <Judy.Jones at icbvi.idaho.gov>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
> To me, the more blind parents and resources the better, and it shouldn't
> matter how.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wendy
Meuse
> via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:49 AM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Wendy Meuse
> Subject: [blparent] don't know if I am allowed to do this.
>
> I don't know if i am allowed to do this. If not, could the mods please
give
> my wrist a slap and tell me not to do it again.
>
> Some friends and I had a blindparenting group on yahoogroups which became
> inaccessible. We had a good ggroup there, but we gradually slacked off as
> it was so hard to use the group. i am in no way suggesting that people
> switch grroups, but I thought that sometimes it is good to have more then
> one group to belong too as we can be in touch with more blind parents.
The
> more parents we can be in touch with, the more support we can gain. Just
an
> idea and I hope I am not in trouble for this. i belong to both hgroups
and
> I would not like to think of being kicked off of one group because I
belong
> to another. It is very small now, but we are trying to find more members
> who would like to join us and pass their wisdom or questions along to us.
I
> know that some of the gals who were with us before go on to facebook and I
> have heard that facebook groups are a good source of support too but there
> are still a few of us who feel more comfortable with E-mail groups. I
don't
> really have anyone to show mme how to use facebook. i belonged when Gary
> and I were together but I found it very frustrating. I know a lot of
blind
> people have no trouble with it, but oh man I
> sure did. All the ads and pictures and things just threw me for a loop
> ehehehehehehehe! I know. I am behind the times. My
> grand sons have told me countless times. Anyway if any of you are
> interested, the subscription info is:
> blindparenting+subscribe at groups.io
>
>
> Thanks you for reading. Your friend Wendy.
> God knows the end from the beginning so we can trust him with everything
in
> between.
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:55:33 -0500
> From: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
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>
> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea of
> what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in your
> take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christine
> Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please contact
> Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the blind
> and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about. Or you may
> visit our website at http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more
> information on pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook
order
> form.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
>
> Insightful Publications
>
> Email: christine at in-sightful.com <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
>
> Office: (808) 747-1006
>
> Website: in-sightful.com
>
> Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
>
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
>
> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
>
> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
>
> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>
https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgro
> ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
>
> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face book
> group for the link listed above).
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> blparent:
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> com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 08:00:45 -1000
> From: "Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications"
> <christine at in-sightful.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Texas Resource handbook available for purchase
> Message-ID: <00cb01d0e4e0$20a02dc0$61e08940$@in-sightful.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have created a screen reader-friendly Texas Resource Handbook containing
> resources pertaining to the blind and visually impaired, for use by
> consumers and professionals.
>
> This handbook is for the residents of Texas and includes the many
> organizations for the blind and visually impaired covering areas such as
> employment, housing, transportation, and more.
>
> The handbook includes contact information on the local, regional, and
> national level.
>
> For more information on pricing and formats please contact Insightful
> Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com or by phone at (808)
> 747-1006.
>
> Or visit our website at in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more
information
> on pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook order form.
>
> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
> Insightful Publications
> Email: christine at in-sightful.com
> Office: (808) 747-1006
> Website: in-sightful.com
> Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>
https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgro
> ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face book
> group for the link listed above).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Jacobson via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:56 AM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Cc: Steve Jacobson
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>
> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea of
> what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in your
> take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christine
> Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please contact
> Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the blind
> and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about. Or you may
> visit our website at http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more
> information on pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook
order
> form.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
>
> Insightful Publications
>
> Email: christine at in-sightful.com <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
>
> Office: (808) 747-1006
>
> Website: in-sightful.com
>
> Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
>
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
>
> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
>
> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
>
> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>
https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgro
> ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
>
> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face book
> group for the link listed above).
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blparent:
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:31:56 -0400
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
> Message-ID: <029a01d0e4fd$a0fe3ee0$e2fabca0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I just did. She's offering books that she
> compiled out of free material in a screen reader friendly format, at least
> according to her. We won't know until someone plunks down the cash.
> I'm not impressed. First, she refers to "the blind and visually impaired"
> like that is the same thing. Second, and maybe this should be first, she
> refers to those who are blind and visually impaired like objects.
> She does not appear to offer anything in Braille, nor does it look like
she
> even knows why that might matter.
> She does accept donations if anybody wants to do that, though it isn't
clear
> what the donations would be used for. It also doesn't appear as if her
> company is a nonprofit which I think it should be if it is accepting
> donations.
> That's all I know in a visit of about two minutes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Jacobson via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:56 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>
> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea of
> what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in your
> take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christine
> Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please contact
> Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the blind
> and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about. Or you may
> visit our website at http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more
> information on pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook
order
> form.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
>
> Insightful Publications
>
> Email: christine at in-sightful.com <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
>
> Office: (808) 747-1006
>
> Website: in-sightful.com
>
> Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
>
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
>
> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
>
> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
>
> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>
https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgro
> ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
>
> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face book
> group for the link listed above).
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blparent mailing list
> blparent at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blparent:
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>
>
>
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> l.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 14:36:20 -0700
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
> Message-ID:
> <CALAYQJC=Xx+Mj-mxeqrZST_w2ww-fCprEo8DNgp_wWcx2pZUcg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I don't understand why she is selling information that is already
> freely available on the Internet.
> Arielle
>
>> On 9/1/15, Star Gazer via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I just did. She's offering books that she
>> compiled out of free material in a screen reader friendly format, at
least
>> according to her. We won't know until someone plunks down the cash.
>> I'm not impressed. First, she refers to "the blind and visually impaired"
>> like that is the same thing. Second, and maybe this should be first, she
>> refers to those who are blind and visually impaired like objects.
>> She does not appear to offer anything in Braille, nor does it look like
she
>> even knows why that might matter.
>> She does accept donations if anybody wants to do that, though it isn't
>> clear
>> what the donations would be used for. It also doesn't appear as if her
>> company is a nonprofit which I think it should be if it is accepting
>> donations.
>> That's all I know in a visit of about two minutes.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>> Jacobson via blparent
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:56 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>>
>> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea of
>> what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in your
>> take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Christine
>> Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
>> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please
contact
>> Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
>> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
>> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the blind
>> and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about. Or you
may
>> visit our website at http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more
>> information on pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook
>> order
>> form.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
>>
>> Insightful Publications
>>
>> Email: christine at in-sightful.com <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
>>
>> Office: (808) 747-1006
>>
>> Website: in-sightful.com
>>
>> Facebook:
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
>>
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
>>
>> Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
>>
>> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
>>
>> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>>
https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgro
>> ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
>>
>> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face
book
>> group for the link listed above).
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blparent mailing list
>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blparent:
>>
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>> com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blparent:
>>
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>> l.com
>>
>>
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>> blparent:
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:59:21 -0700
> From: "Michelle Creedy " <michelle.creedy at gmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Question about Walking with Children
> Message-ID: <003d01d0e51a$9a8767e0$cf9637a0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi List
>
>
>
> I'm currently doing some respite in prep for adoption and I'm interested
to
> know what techniques people use when walking with children who are 8 or
> older. I'm trying to figure out the best strategies for maintaining
control
> of the situation because some of these kids have been quite programmed to
> believe that blind people need to be guided around. There are times when I
> do choose to use an elbow for example if my sister and I are walking but
I'm
> always using my cane if I choose to do so. This usually only happens if
I'm
> walking with my sister and I actually can't hear where she's going. I
> jokingly told her today that I'm going to tie a cow bel around her neck! I
> suppose this unpredictable guiding is confusing to the kids so perhaps it
is
> as simple as a conversation. It's different with your own children because
> they are so used to canes that it doesn't cross their mind to tell you
what
> to do and when to do it. I also find that it is more difficult to
> concentrate because of course we're chatting and so I probably make
mistakes
> I wouldn't make if I were on my own. Most of my travel is done alone by
> virtue of me living on my own within walking or transit distance of
> everything I need. I've been practicing Going out with other adults and
just
> doing my thing as I normally would while having a conversation as we go.
I'm
> sure this sounds really stupid but hey, somewhere somehow someone else
must
> have run into this and had the same questions.
>
>
>
> I have very good cane travel skills but I guess this is simply taking
things
> the next step.
>
>
>
> My nephew has it down pat! I explained to him that I really don't want
> comments when my cane hits something because that's how I find it and that
> it's ok if I move a little slower through the environment than my sister
or
> mom do. He has taken to walking in front of me and chatting up a storm so
> that I know where he is if he's wanting to show me where the toy section
is
> so that he can then persuade me to spend some money on the latest Lego.
> Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.
>
>
>
> It's amazing how much programming our children get about blindness. I
never
> realized this before.
>
>
>
> These are not children I need to worry about in terms of holding hands but
> I'm a little confused as to what ground rules would be helpful. Any
> suggestions would be really great.
>
>
>
> Michelle
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:36:04 -0500
> From: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
> Message-ID: <SNT406-EAS2932E1DD985AE225D5CAF89BC690 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Arielle,
>
> She is certainly not the first person to pull freely available information
> together and sell it for the convenience of having it in one place.
Still,
> it seems worthwhile to me to be sure people know the information is free
if
> they know how to look for it. I was hoping the price might be obvious.
She
> seems to be announcing each state as she completes the work on quite a
> number of our lists.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
> Silverman via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:36 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>
> I don't understand why she is selling information that is already freely
> available on the Internet.
> Arielle
>
>> On 9/1/15, Star Gazer via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I just did. She's offering books that she
> compiled out of free
>> material in a screen reader friendly format, at least according to
>> her. We won't know until someone plunks down the cash.
>> I'm not impressed. First, she refers to "the blind and visually impaired"
>> like that is the same thing. Second, and maybe this should be first,
>> she refers to those who are blind and visually impaired like objects.
>> She does not appear to offer anything in Braille, nor does it look
>> like she even knows why that might matter.
>> She does accept donations if anybody wants to do that, though it isn't
>> clear what the donations would be used for. It also doesn't appear as
>> if her company is a nonprofit which I think it should be if it is
>> accepting donations.
>> That's all I know in a visit of about two minutes.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>> Jacobson via blparent
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:56 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>>
>> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea
>> of what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in
>> your take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
>> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please
>> contact Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
>> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
>> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the
>> blind and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about.
>> Or you may visit our website at
>> http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more information on
>> pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook order form.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
>>
>> Insightful Publications
>>
>> Email: christine at in-sightful.com <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
>>
>> Office: (808) 747-1006
>>
>> Website: in-sightful.com
>>
>> Facebook:
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
>>
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
>>
>> Linkedin:
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
>>
>> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
>>
>> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>> https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com
>> %2Fgro ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
>>
>> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face
>> book group for the link listed above).
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blparent mailing list
>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blparent:
>
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>> com
>>
>>
>>
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>> 40gmai
>> l.com
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:14:42 -0600
> From: "Pipi Adams" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
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> The prices are listed on the website. They range from $40 to $65 for a
> consumer, depending on your state. They are $00 to $125 for an agency. It
> also says that if you would like a different format such as braille or
large
> print, you should email her.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Jacobson via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:36 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Cc: Steve Jacobson
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>
> Arielle,
>
> She is certainly not the first person to pull freely available information
> together and sell it for the convenience of having it in one place.
Still,
> it seems worthwhile to me to be sure people know the information is free
if
> they know how to look for it. I was hoping the price might be obvious.
She
> seems to be announcing each state as she completes the work on quite a
> number of our lists.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
> Silverman via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:36 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>
> I don't understand why she is selling information that is already freely
> available on the Internet.
> Arielle
>
>> On 9/1/15, Star Gazer via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I just did. She's offering books that she
> compiled out of free
>> material in a screen reader friendly format, at least according to
>> her. We won't know until someone plunks down the cash.
>> I'm not impressed. First, she refers to "the blind and visually impaired"
>> like that is the same thing. Second, and maybe this should be first,
>> she refers to those who are blind and visually impaired like objects.
>> She does not appear to offer anything in Braille, nor does it look
>> like she even knows why that might matter.
>> She does accept donations if anybody wants to do that, though it isn't
>> clear what the donations would be used for. It also doesn't appear as
>> if her company is a nonprofit which I think it should be if it is
>> accepting donations.
>> That's all I know in a visit of about two minutes.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>> Jacobson via blparent
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:56 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>>
>> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea
>> of what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in
>> your take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
>> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please
>> contact Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
>> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
>> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the
>> blind and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about.
>> Or you may visit our website at
>> http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more information on
>> pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook order form.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Christine Chaikin President and CEO
>>
>> Insightful Publications
>>
>> Email: christine at in-sightful.com <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
>>
>> Office: (808) 747-1006
>>
>> Website: in-sightful.com
>>
>> Facebook:
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963
>>
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/insightfulpubli
>>
>> Linkedin:
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pub/insightful-publications/46/664/153
>>
>> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/insightfulpubli/
>>
>> Helping the Blind and Visually Impaired face book group:
>> https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com
>> %2Fgro ups%2Fhelpingtheblindandvisuallyimpaired%2F
>>
>> (Note: You must be signed into your face book account to see the face
>> book group for the link listed above).
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 21:57:06 -0500
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
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> She has done this for several states. Some people may find it
> convenient to have everything in one place, especially if you are
> newly blinded, or just found out that your kid is blind. As I said,
> she has done it for several states, if there is a market then she
> will prosper, if not ......
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:36 PM 9/1/2015, you wrote:
>> I don't understand why she is selling information that is already
>> freely available on the Internet.
>> Arielle
>>
>>> On 9/1/15, Star Gazer via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I just did. She's offering books that she
>>> compiled out of free material in a screen reader friendly format, at
least
>>> according to her. We won't know until someone plunks down the cash.
>>> I'm not impressed. First, she refers to "the blind and visually
impaired"
>>> like that is the same thing. Second, and maybe this should be first, she
>>> refers to those who are blind and visually impaired like objects.
>>> She does not appear to offer anything in Braille, nor does it look like
she
>>> even knows why that might matter.
>>> She does accept donations if anybody wants to do that, though it isn't
>>> clear
>>> what the donations would be used for. It also doesn't appear as if her
>>> company is a nonprofit which I think it should be if it is accepting
>>> donations.
>>> That's all I know in a visit of about two minutes.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>>> Jacobson via blparent
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:56 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>>>
>>> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an idea
of
>>> what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be interested in your
>>> take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Christine
>>> Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
>>> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>>> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>>> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please
contact
>>> Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
>>> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
>>> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the
blind
>>> and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about. Or you
may
>>> visit our website at http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more
>>> information on pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook
>>> order
>>> form.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>
> David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 22:08:08 -0500
> From: "Jennifer S Jackson" <jennifersjackson at att.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
> Message-ID: <000201d0e52c$990381d0$cb0a8570$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Available for free or not, I would have liked a resource like this for
> deafness when My son was first diagnosed. I might not put down the cash
now
> as after nine years I have a network of resources to start with. This
might
> also be a useful resource to someone thinking of relocating and not
wanting
> to have to start gathering new information.
>
> Just some thoughts on why this might be a useful resource for some.
>
>
> Jennifer J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Andrews via blparent
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:57 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Cc: David Andrews
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>
> She has done this for several states. Some people may find it convenient
to
> have everything in one place, especially if you are newly blinded, or just
> found out that your kid is blind. As I said, she has done it for several
> states, if there is a market then she will prosper, if not ......
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:36 PM 9/1/2015, you wrote:
>> I don't understand why she is selling information that is already
>> freely available on the Internet.
>> Arielle
>>
>>> On 9/1/15, Star Gazer via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I just did. She's offering books that
>>> she compiled out of free material in a screen reader friendly
>>> format, at least according to her. We won't know until someone plunks
> down the cash.
>>> I'm not impressed. First, she refers to "the blind and visually
> impaired"
>>> like that is the same thing. Second, and maybe this should be first,
>>> she refers to those who are blind and visually impaired like objects.
>>> She does not appear to offer anything in Braille, nor does it look
>>> like she even knows why that might matter.
>>> She does accept donations if anybody wants to do that, though it
>>> isn't clear what the donations would be used for. It also doesn't
>>> appear as if her company is a nonprofit which I think it should be
>>> if it is accepting donations.
>>> That's all I know in a visit of about two minutes.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Steve Jacobson via blparent
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:56 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Texas
>>>
>>> Has anyone taken a look at the web site mentioned below to get an
>>> idea of what she is offering? If anyone has time, I would be
>>> interested in your take on this. I am swamped at the moment.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications via blparent
>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:44 PM
>>> To: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>>> Cc: Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications
>>> Subject: [blparent] Texas
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone on these email lists is from the state of Texas. Please
>>> contact Insightful Publications by email at christine at in-sightful.com
>>> <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> As I have a Texas resource handbook
>>> available for purchase that is specifically designed for use by the
>>> blind and visually impaired that I would like to let you know about.
>>> Or you may visit our website at
>>> http://www.in-sightful.com/orderpage.html for more information on
>>> pricing, formats available, and state resource handbook order form.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time regarding this matter.
>
> David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
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