[blparent] Introduction and a question

Jennifer Bose jen10514 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 16 22:46:20 UTC 2016


I usually stay out of these discussions when they get heated, but I would urge you to be careful here, Rebecca. Maybe the client asked the professional to email the list because she's busy; ;maybe the client doesn't have a working computer yet; maybe she's interested in joining the list and plans on doing so later. We really don't know. And this was really just a question about traveling independently with a very young child when the thread was started. The professional just asked for suggestions about that. No need to blow things way out of proportion. Thanks.

Jen

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> On Feb 16, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Jo Elizabeth Pinto via BlParent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Accusing the father of being a sperm donor is a far cry from saying that the rehab counselor is spoon feeding her client information.  Neither claim is based on well established fact, but one is much more damaging and unfounded than the other.  We're simply asking you to be more sensitive and less harsh and critical when you express your opinions so that new members--and perhaps veteran ones--feel free to ask questions on the list.
> 
> Jo Elizabeth
> 
> "The Bright Side of Darkness"
> is my newly published novel,
> available in Kindle, audio, and paperback formats at Amazon.com.
> -----Original Message----- From: Star Gazer via BlParent
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:27 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> Still guys, as a professional this lady
> needs to be helping her client get on the list not just spoon feeding
> whatever info *she* (not necessarily the client) finds useful.
> That's all I've been trying to say. It's only nasty and has no place if you
> disagree with it, which you are free to do.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlParent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> via BlParent
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:39 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <Judy.Jones at icbvi.idaho.gov>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> It may not have occurred to her at the time, although she may refer her
> client now.  Plus, client may or may not have computer access, or may be
> getting computer training.  Who knows? . . .
> 
> Judy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlParent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
> via BlParent
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:35 AM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> To me it's strange she isn't telling the
> client about this list. I don't understand why she wouldn't give her client
> the tools and this list is one of them, v. feeding the client information.
> It's like a pharamicist saying "take these iron supplements" because then
> they remain in business when eating spinach would accomplish the same thing.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlParent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annely Rose
> via BlParent
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:00 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Annely Rose <annely53r at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> If you read the initial post, this is a vision rehab. instructor inquiring
> for some information for one of her clients. Why are you reading more into
> it? No need for any additional information from her. If she wants to tell
> her client about your list, she will.  Blessings to you all.
> 
> Annely
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 2/15/16, Jo Elizabeth Pinto via BlParent <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
> Date: Monday, February 15, 2016, 6:13 PM
> 
> We have not been given
> any information by which we can assume that the  father in question, if
> there is one, is a sperm  donor.  That's a dangerous  and  needless
> conclusion to jump to.
> 
> Jo Elizabeth
> 
> "The Bright Side of Darkness"
> is my newly published novel,
> available in Kindle, audio, and paperback  formats at Amazon.com.
> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: Star Gazer via
> BlParent
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016
> 1:31 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing
> List'
> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a  question
> 
> My sense is that
> in this case, the father is
> a father in
> sperm donation either.
> And like J.E. says,
> why are you asking these questions for her? She can get  on the list and
> ask whatever she wants. So can  you, it's just odd that you  are and she
> isn't. Makes me wonder what more is going on.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlParent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Jo
> Elizabeth Pinto via
> BlParent
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016
> 2:47 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Introduction and a  question
> 
> very true.
> Sorry.
> 
> Jo Elizabeth
> 
> "The Bright Side of
> Darkness"
> is my newly published
> novel,
> available in Kindle, audio, and
> paperback formats at Amazon.com.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Baldwin via BlParent
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 12:43 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Cc: Michael Baldwin
> Subject:
> Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> Hey now, don't forget the
> fathers.
> LOL.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlParent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Jo
> Elizabeth Pinto via
> BlParent
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016
> 1:11 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Cc: Jo Elizabeth Pinto
> Subject:
> Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> Why don't you suggest that
> your client might want to join this list?  She  could ask the question for
> herself, and a lot  of other parenting questions,  too, if she is
> interested.  There are many mothers of babies and  toddlers  here, and some
> mothers of older  children, or mothers whose children are  grown now.
> 
> Jo
> Elizabeth
> 
> "The Bright
> Side of Darkness"
> is my newly published
> novel,
> available in Kindle, audio, and
> paperback formats at Amazon.com.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elizabeth Bowden via BlParent
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 4:46 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Cc: Elizabeth Bowden
> Subject:
> Re: [blparent] Introduction and a question
> 
> Hello Judy,
> Thanks for the information. I had almost  thought of that angle but not all
> the way
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 9:20
> PM, Judy Jones via BlParent
>> <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, Liz,
>> 
>> My kids are grown, but we managed in all  sorts of transportation  >
> situations.
> I'm no longer up on the most up-to-date conveyances, but  I  > can tell you
> what we did.
>> 
>> Both my husband and
> are blind, and we used both paratransit and  > fixed-route buses, sometimes
> a combination  of both.  And, of course, cabs.
>> 
>> When our youngest was a baby, I had a car  seat with carrying handles.
>> It doubled
> as a car seat or baby carrier.  The handles came up from  > the head and
> foot in suit case-fashion,  and I could easily carry Baby  > very  securely.
>> 
>> When she
> was able to sit up, we used the frame pack constantly.
>> 
>> Many busses have
> fold-down child seats for the toddlers.
>> 
>> Another thing we
> did:  At a strip mall near our house, I had  > established a relationship
> with the  cleaners where we took my husbands  > work  suits, so, if I had a
> lot of errand-running to do with  the  > kidlets, I asked the vendor if I
> could leave the car seat in a safe  >  place in his shop and come back when
> we were ready to  leave.  It  > worked  perfectly.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth  Bowden via BlParent  > Sent:
> Sunday,  February 14, 2016 3:55 PM  > To: Blind  Parents Mailing List  > Cc:
> Elizabeth  Bowden  > Subject: Re: [blparent]  Introduction and a question  >
>> Hello Wendy,  > Thanks  so much for the encouragement I really hope all
> that will  > happen is well.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2016,
> at 4:07 PM, Wendy Meuse via BlParent
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi
> Elizabeth:  I am sure that there are car seats that can fit  in  >>
> strollers.  However I am a  grandmother now, and the strollers and car  >>
> seat I used are probably long gone.  I found a back pack very useful  >>
> though.  I just loved mine.  I hope you will get some  good  >> information
> from folks on this  list that are using or have used more  >> modern
> strollers and car seats then I  had.  Perhaps she would like to  >>  get
> hold of people on this list to get some good ideas and  to have  >> lots of
> support.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> "Elizabeth Bowden via BlParent"
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Elizabeth Bowden"
> <bowdenelizabeth5 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:35  PM  >> Subject: [blparent]
> Introduction  and a question  >>  >>  >> Hello  Little,  >> My name is Liz
> Bowden.  I  am a blind independen Living instructor  >> instructing the
> mother of a toddler.  The mother would like to take  >> her  child around in
> her community, but will have difficulty with  a  >> cane, stroller, and a
> car seat.  She primarily uses cabs for her  >>  transportation.  Do any of
> you use anything like a stroller  car seat  >> combination for your
> toddler, and if so, what make and model.  I have  >> investigated options,
> and find them  overwhelming.  Other solutions  >> for  the problem would be
> welcome.
>>> 
> Thanks In Advance.
>>> Sent from my
> iPhone
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