[blParent] Accessible Monitor or Surveillance System

Judy Jones sonshines59 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 25 21:24:07 UTC 2023 

Hahaha, I was just talking about our discussions with my younger daughter today, and she remembers playing in the Tupperware in the lower cupboards, and she remembers being fascinated with, of all things, baking soda.

Judy

“Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”

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From: BlParent <blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Therese Vercellone via BlParent
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:12 AM
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Cc: Therese Vercellone <tlvercellone at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blParent] Accessible Monitor or Surveillance System

Hi Judy,

Thanks for your input and kindness. We are considering trying some adhesive locks and absorbing the cost for repair, and we might look into some of the tech suggestions others mentioned here. And yes, we have bells and plan to use them soon. We’ve heard from so many other parents they’re very helpful. We already cleared out a shelf and have our hand soap for the sink in a nearby cupboard that’s on the wall, which solved a lot of problems. Our daughter loves playing with liquids, and I think she thinks spices are colorful sand. LOL! Have a lovely day!

Therese

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:46 PM, Judy Jones via BlParent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Therese,
> 
> I think Ben mentioned you are renting.  Can you ask your landlord about installing child locks for you, or ask him if you can do it yourselves.
> 
> When you are no longer renting, there are probably others who would benefit in future from that installation as well.
> 
> Can you temporarily place your soaps and such in a higher cupboard?  Just some thoughts that might help.
> 
> Us older blind parents raised happy healthy kids without monitors and such, just as our parents raised us, so some of the lower tech options tend to be what we went with, and they worked.
> 
> I had bells on our toddlers' shoes, and back then, we were on our feat 
> a lot, checking to make sure we knew where they were and what they 
> were doing.  Your ears learn to distinguish the normal activity from 
> the abnormal, or quiet.  When quiet, definitely check hahaha 😊
> 
> Our daughters are both sighted, and the older daughter is very high tech with monitors everywhere, whereas our younger daughter is not.  Jada's stroller for her baby actually had a console with speaker and hookup for your phone, and the console is at the handle, so, if you are a runner, you could take the baby on your jaunt.  Crazy.
> 
> Then, Sadie has a folding no-frill stroller.  
> 
> Judy
> 
> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlParent <blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Therese 
> Vercellone via BlParent
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 10:26 AM
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> Cc: Therese Vercellone <tlvercellone at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blParent] Accessible Monitor or Surveillance System
> 
> Hi Star Gazer,
> 
> I see Ben already replied to your inappropriate, judgmental message. Clearly, you don’t understand what input we were looking for. We are not looking to log information. We know we can’t keep our daughter out of the kitchen completely, and I’m totally fine with that. We already child safety locks some cabinets, but we can’t child safety lock everything because some adhesive locks will damage the woodwork and we don’t want to pay our leasing office for the damage. And our daughter is able to climb over the baby gate we had, so it’s pretty useless. As parents, Ben and I know kids make messes. It has happened several times, and we know it will happen more. We just want something to detect where our daughter is if we have to leave her unattended for a few short moments when we need to be in another room or tend to our younger daughter.
> 
> To shrewdly suggest daycare for our daughter tells me you’re assuming my husband and I are not capable of time management and childcare. I’m home with my 2 kids. They’re happy and well-cared for, so mind your own and back off.
> 
> And to those who offered understanding and helpful advice, thank you for your messages.
> 
> Therese
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 10:22 AM, Star Gazer via BlParent <blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>                 Ben, you are describing your kitchen like
>> it's a demilitarized zone or restricted air space.. you want to know 
>> and log the exact moment it was entered? What exactly will that do 
>> for you? It's weird and useless. Nobody cares least of all the person 
>> doing it and it's not like you can use the information to get her in 
>> trouble because it makes no difference to her.
>> When she trashes the joint have her help clean it up even if the bulk 
>> of it is you clean while she sits in your presence, the goal is to 
>> make her day a little more unpleasant based on actions she chose to 
>> take. She'll get the idea.
>> 
>> Please don't tell me you both are working while trying to care for 
>> kids, it sucks for all involved. Kids are bored, mom and dad are 
>> stressed, mom and dad are overtired, it's a miserable way to live.
>> Find daycare or stagger your schedules so you all don't have to live 
>> this way.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlParent <blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones 
>> via BlParent
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 10:45 AM
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>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blParent] Accessible Monitor or Surveillance System
>> 
>> Oh yes, another great idea I had forgotten about.
>> 
>> We kept our Tupperware and non-breakables on lower shelves.  We did 
>> have soaps and such under the sink with child locks, but both girls 
>> always went to the Tupperware lids drawer or the Tupperware or pots 
>> and pans, they could get to and play with.  They seemed to know where 
>> to find those things right away.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlParent <blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MOe C via 
>> BlParent
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 7:40 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [blParent] Accessible Monitor or Surveillance System
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Something you could try is to put something they are interested in 
>>> right outside of the kitchen, especially if you are headed off to 
>>> the
>> restroom.
>>> That way when they are headed that way they will hopefully get 
>>> distracted with something you want them to mess with.
>> 
>> I find it pretty unhelpful to think they will avoid the kitchen all 
>> together, so another best practice is to put things like pots and 
>> pans on the bottom where they can reach, and the treats and snacks up 
>> high out of reach.
>> Motion detection items are nice, but they don't really help if you 
>> are in the restroom, and need to be there for a few minutes.
>> Take care,
>> MOe Carpenter
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