[Cabs-talk] Let's get down to business.

Darian Smith dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 21:37:26 UTC 2009


Agreed, it's always good to proceed with good intent, but with
caution."we'll see" said the blind people
 Darian

On 8/10/09, Bruce Sexton Jr. <bjsexton at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Darian brings up more good points.  I too would like to bring forward some
> points that have not yet been discussed.  Some candidates will wish to make
> their announcement at the last minute that they are running, others may wish
> to keep their candidacy  private.  Some people may wish to run with one
> presidential candidate and not another.  So, when having an open forum, we
> do have to proceed with care.  Another important thing I must say, is that,
> unless circumstances change, I will not be running for a CABS position this
> year.
>
> Thank you, and I agree with Mike.  I think Angela would be an excellent
> presidential CABS candidate if she so chooses to be.  I think she would have
> the support of many who may be thinking of running.
>  Yours Sincerely,
> Bruce
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>
>
>> information servers of the list-serve,
>> I wonder if it's not a bad Idea to  send the cabs constitutionas an
>> atatchment to  this very list-serve?
>> though, i don't think that would answer all of the questions
>> regarding who's running for what.
>> Yes, B.J.  is correct, i do remember taking part in a forum where the
>> then presidential canadates did speak.
>> so, maybe a questionI might pose is this go-round, would having all
>> the canadates who are running for all the board positions that are up,
>> involved in such a situation be an idea? more over, a good one?
>> Darian
>>
>> On 8/10/09, Bruce Sexton Jr. <bjsexton at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Hello members and concerned parties,
>>>
>>> As the First Vice-President on behalf of CABS, I would like to make some
>>> comments on the topic of an open forum.  Let me first say, that our
>>> president, Deepa Goraya, is out of the country, in Italy.  Last year, we
>>> provided the membership with an open forum over a conference call.  I too
>>> think it is important to have  transparency and frank discussions in
>>> every
>>> organization.  I believe that there may be some confusion, because not
>>> everyone has decided where they would like to be in the upcoming
>>> elections.
>>> I am all for an informational discussion between everyone.  Our next
>>> board
>>> meeting, which will be closed, will be on August 16th where the board
>>> will
>>> discuss the appropriate ways to insure a good positive open forum
>>> experience
>>> for everyone.  So, if you have anything you would like to have brought up
>>>
>>> in
>>> this board meeting, please contact one of your board members to have them
>>>
>>> do
>>> so.
>>>
>>> thanks, and I look forward to our upcoming discussion!
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Bruce F. Sexton Jr., First Vice President
>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I have recently returned from my second summer at the Colorado Center
>>>> of the Blind, having participated in NABS and the Colorado Student
>>>> Devisions activities over the summer, I am excited to be back in
>>>> California and eager to see our student devision evolve in the
>>>> upcoming year.
>>>>
>>>> I too have heard many rummors about possible candidates, candidates
>>>> for positions that are not even up for election in this upcoming
>>>> meeting. I would find it benificial to have an open forum where
>>>> interested candidates, and interested members can discuss the future
>>>> of the California Student Devision, as a board, we have already begun
>>>> planning out the upcoming year, however, the membership as a whole has
>>>> a right to an oppinion, and to bring forth suggestions and interests
>>>> that could assist us to move forward. Having an open forum as Darian
>>>> has suggested can bring some balance and understanding to our
>>>> elections, increase the involvment, and simplify the process for those
>>>> who have only seen confusion. I am supposed to be on the inside, as a
>>>> board member, and I can honestly say I am still confused as to who is
>>>> running for what, why, and when. Meeting our candidates before the
>>>> election is an idea that can assist us greatly in making the right
>>>> decision for the new board.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Aziza Cano
>>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>>> Secretary
>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>>    1. rumors and reality: cabs election? (Darian Smith)
>>>>>    2. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Michael Peterson)
>>>>>    3. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Isabel arreola)
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>> To: cabs-talk <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that our state convention is  in october, and at that
>>>>> time is   the anual cabs meeting. I've already been   hearing rumors
>>>>> swirlingabout regarding  individuals who might be interested in
>>>>> running for  board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>  I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where   the membership can:
>>>>>  A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> B.  hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>> C. find out  what positions are  up for election.
>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>  I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place,  talking  about their
>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to  the division to
>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>  I propose that if we do  have something like this, that we have a
>>>>> moderator who would ask  two or three questions  to the canadets
>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>   I  am interested to hear  from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>   Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>  best
>>>>>   Darian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:20:01 -0700
>>>>> From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <0B4802ADFFD34C9DBE697259A55571A1 at MikePC>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Darian. I'm sure someone can tell you which offices are up for
>>>>> re-election.  I went to the last CABS meeting at convention but am not
>>>>> sure
>>>>> which offices run for two years and
>>>>>  which are for one. If you attend the meeting however, each candidate
>>>>> is
>>>>> usually given a chance to introduce his/her self.
>>>>> I suspect you could question the candidates from the audience if you
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to find out about a specific One idea I think would be good is the CABS
>>>>> constitution be posted on the website than any question about which
>>>>> positions were open would be answered there.
>>>>>   The constitution if I remember was amended at the last
>>>>> Meeting.
>>>>>  The CABS meeting will happen on Friday so I doubt there would be a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> time for an involved discussion.
>>>>> Perhaps if students wish such a discussion to occur candidates could
>>>>> introduce themselves on the listserve or maybe a conference meeting
>>>>> could
>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>> conveened by one or more of the officers.
>>>>> If such a position is open and if the division needs my services I have
>>>>> told
>>>>> some I will gladly serve as a board member at large.  I have one year
>>>>> left
>>>>> until I graduate SDSU in June 2010 with my Masters in Rehabilitation.
>>>>> I am not asking for the nomination but will be available if requested
>>>>> to
>>>>> serve.  I am not requesting a
>>>>>  higher office.  When our affiliate reorganized I was the first
>>>>>  president of the student division.
>>>>>  I held that office for a couple years and than it was taken by Michael
>>>>> Bayliff.
>>>>> I'm dating myself but doing it to say I want to see young blood have
>>>>> the
>>>>>  opportunity to serve that I did whether Depa continues in the office
>>>>> or
>>>>>  some one else is elected.
>>>>>  I feel that as a board member I could serve as an organizer and an
>>>>> advisor
>>>>>  based on my previous experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rafting trip was a great idea and I commend the administration for
>>>>>  encouraging involvement of students.  I however
>>>>>  would like to see regional seminars held in the north, the south
>>>>>  and perhaps in central California.
>>>>> These seminars would focus on teaching students about things like
>>>>>  how to acquire scholarships, how to set up a PASS,
>>>>> How to acquire books what options are available, bookshare.org, RFBD
>>>>> etc
>>>>> and
>>>>> other topics.  The seminars would be maybe from 10:00 a.m to 4:00 p.m
>>>>> they
>>>>> would
>>>>>  include a luncheon and maybe other features designed to get students
>>>>>  and parents to mingle and become familiar with the CABS and it's
>>>>>  role Why they should join CABS and what exactly is the NFB.
>>>>> We would stress inviting blind high school students their parents, as
>>>>> well
>>>>> as
>>>>>  local high school and college officials.
>>>>> Another idea that could be fun is a Student legislative lunchon.
>>>>>  It could be held in Sacramento and we could invite State legislatures
>>>>> to
>>>>> come
>>>>>  and talk with us as well as congressional leaders or their
>>>>> representatives.
>>>>> We might even consider a march to the capitol similar to the National
>>>>> march
>>>>> in Detroit and it could be a fundraiser as well as an educational
>>>>> event.
>>>>> What a way to end our luncheon or begin it whichhever.
>>>>> I think probably the March should come first and end as we conveen for
>>>>> the
>>>>>  luncheon!
>>>>> I would also like to introduce some new fundraising projects such as
>>>>> the
>>>>>  sell of holiday cards candles or gifts.  This could be done online and
>>>>> at
>>>>> events
>>>>>   Other fundraisers also could be created
>>>>> We could attempt to get fraternities and sorities to assist in our
>>>>> efforts.
>>>>> Moneys raised would be invested in developing
>>>>>  our student affiliate across
>>>>> theState.
>>>>> My emphasis would be get more students involved in participation!
>>>>>  To me the membership not the board is the student division.
>>>>>  We need students in mass to get involved if we want
>>>>>  college books to be accessible if
>>>>>  we want to influence change on our local campuses we need to
>>>>>  organize the numbers to make our voices heard.
>>>>>   We need to invite government officials and college
>>>>>  administrators to our meetings and when necessary we need to ask
>>>>>  hard questions.
>>>>> We need to draft strong resolutions for the State convention and be
>>>>>  strong in our participation in the NABS.
>>>>> We need to take very seriously the reality that
>>>>>  today's students are tomorrow's leaders in the NFBC.
>>>>>  This is why training seminars are so very important.  We also need to
>>>>> listen to the membership to work with the members  and be receptive to
>>>>> their
>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>   We need to encourage all students to do the work
>>>>> not just the board.That being said, in most organizations not just the
>>>>> student
>>>>>  division NFBC a minority seems to "get stuck" doing a majority of the
>>>>> work.
>>>>> Please if you come to vote come also to participate as an
>>>>>  active member to help create the very best Student Division we have
>>>>> ever
>>>>>  had and to take an active part not just in voting but in
>>>>>  shapeing
>>>>>  your own destiny!
>>>>> We need you each of you we need your voice your energy your
>>>>>  creativity
>>>>> and your unique talent that only you can provide.
>>>>>  So come Join us in Newark and help make our dreams come true.
>>>>> Let's see a really large contingent of students on ThursdayOct 22,
>>>>> walking
>>>>>  across the golden gate bridge! How fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are gifted in that we have some wonderful students with great
>>>>> leadership
>>>>>  potential.
>>>>>   And with monumental budget cuts to education on the State level we
>>>>> need
>>>>>  all the help we can get!
>>>>> Let's make the Student division CABS as well as the NFBC the
>>>>>  best they can be by working together.
>>>>> I will vote for the candidates I like but when the smoke clears
>>>>>  I will as now do all I can to support those the membership deems most
>>>>> suited to be their leaders.
>>>>> God bless:
>>>>> Michael Peterson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "cabs-talk" <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is  in october, and at that
>>>>>> time is   the anual cabs meeting. I've already been   hearing rumors
>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding  individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>> running for  board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where   the membership can:
>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B.  hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>> C. find out  what positions are  up for election.
>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place,  talking  about their
>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to  the division to
>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>> I propose that if we do  have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>> moderator who would ask  two or three questions  to the canadets
>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>  I  am interested to hear  from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>  Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>  Darian
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:15 -0700
>>>>> From: Isabel arreola <twylyt74 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>>>>
>>>>> I completely endorse this proposal for such a forum . I am excited to
>>>>> see
>>>>> such interest in the chapter. Best of all, as a voter, it is nice to
>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> hoice of cadidates to represent me as a blind student.
>>>>>  I nominate Angela Fouler to set up the web page.
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>>> From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: cabs-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>
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