[Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
Michael Peterson
its_mike at sbcglobal.net
Mon Aug 10 22:27:27 UTC 2009
Darian a conference call is a good idea. In order for that to work well
first an anouncement needs to be sent explaining exactly which offices are
open.
Than Someone needs to collect names of those who are interested in each
position.
The call needs to be set up at a time when all the candidates can attend and
it should be set up during a time students can attend.
I personally don't like Sunday because I have other committments and often
can't get to meetings held that day especially evening ones.
Saturday or a week night except wednesday usually works better for me.
I don't think a huge rift exists in the division although people have
opinions on how things can and should be done.
I also think though some folks say they don't want to serve with one
candidate or the other many times that too can be worked out.
Sometimes we have disagreements over things and people feel put on the
defensive. For example, and this is just my personal opinion,
I don't have any problem with Bruce Deepa or anyone else and
am happy working with them to the best of my ability.
But I do have a difference of opinion.
During the last few years the student division CABS has financed retreats
for the board members which cost significant amounts of money to fly
people arround the state.
As a result those moneys weren't spent
doing things like recruiting students and
I think those board meetings could have been held as well via telephone.
In fact the board unity could have been established the same way flying
board
members to conduct these seminars.
Also in my view the treasury wasn't handled well. When Terra(My wife)
was treasurer she was ask to forge signatures and money was held in
our safe cash money for several months.I think until
February just before the last retreat in fact,
I can definitely say during my administration that wouldn't have been
permitted.
Money needs to be kept in the bank at all times and accounted for
because we are
at risk of government problems if it's not
not just problems for the CABS but also for the State affiliate NFBC.
Also when someone is keeping several hundred dollars at there house
their is a risk of burglary than what? When terra had that money in our
safe after a few weeks I can tell you it felt scarry,
Presidents of our State affiliate AKA Bob Acosta
prior to our reorganization was taken to task for messing with the cash I
think if I remember he borrowed money to buy a clock for his wife.
Keeping our
cash in a bank at all times leaves a clear trail no one will borrow a few
bucks
temporarily for a weekend trip to Las Vegas intending to Pay it back.
and, I know all or most of our members are honest
but keeping pillowcases full of cash for months well that's not
professional
in any circles.
We need to make sure money is placed in an account and when necessary
transferred from bank to bank just like the State affiliate does.
I know signatures are a headache and such
but that is the same for all organizations.
When I was president of the San Fernando valley chapter many years ago a
girlfriend was serving as an officer,
I believe treasure but maybe secretary, it was many years ago.
We broke up she left town and it was a nightmare doing paperwork
but we got it done and the names got changed and I didn't keep physical
cash
at my house.
I am not suggesting anyone is a bad leader,
I have utmost respect for this administration but we need to be careful how
we r
un the organization and we need to do everything in our power
to educate and recruit students so our voice will be heard as we strive
to improve conditions for blind students pursuing higher education.
Some would like thesee matters kept between board members
but for those aspiring to sit on the board these are some of the issues
you must address.
The student division is a good training ground and
dealing with these kinds of things enriches your resume when
you graduate college.
I do not plan on bringing these issues up in a forum.
Mike
We don't need to debate these opinions they are mine
and I will do what I can to help whoever is elected.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
<cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
> information servers of the list-serve,
> I wonder if it's not a bad Idea to send the cabs constitutionas an
> atatchment to this very list-serve?
> though, i don't think that would answer all of the questions
> regarding who's running for what.
> Yes, B.J. is correct, i do remember taking part in a forum where the
> then presidential canadates did speak.
> so, maybe a questionI might pose is this go-round, would having all
> the canadates who are running for all the board positions that are up,
> involved in such a situation be an idea? more over, a good one?
> Darian
>
> On 8/10/09, Bruce Sexton Jr. <bjsexton at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hello members and concerned parties,
>>
>> As the First Vice-President on behalf of CABS, I would like to make some
>> comments on the topic of an open forum. Let me first say, that our
>> president, Deepa Goraya, is out of the country, in Italy. Last year, we
>> provided the membership with an open forum over a conference call. I too
>> think it is important to have transparency and frank discussions in
>> every
>> organization. I believe that there may be some confusion, because not
>> everyone has decided where they would like to be in the upcoming
>> elections.
>> I am all for an informational discussion between everyone. Our next
>> board
>> meeting, which will be closed, will be on August 16th where the board
>> will
>> discuss the appropriate ways to insure a good positive open forum
>> experience
>> for everyone. So, if you have anything you would like to have brought up
>> in
>> this board meeting, please contact one of your board members to have them
>> do
>> so.
>>
>> thanks, and I look forward to our upcoming discussion!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Bruce F. Sexton Jr., First Vice President
>> California Association of Blind Students
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:19 PM
>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I have recently returned from my second summer at the Colorado Center
>>> of the Blind, having participated in NABS and the Colorado Student
>>> Devisions activities over the summer, I am excited to be back in
>>> California and eager to see our student devision evolve in the
>>> upcoming year.
>>>
>>> I too have heard many rummors about possible candidates, candidates
>>> for positions that are not even up for election in this upcoming
>>> meeting. I would find it benificial to have an open forum where
>>> interested candidates, and interested members can discuss the future
>>> of the California Student Devision, as a board, we have already begun
>>> planning out the upcoming year, however, the membership as a whole has
>>> a right to an oppinion, and to bring forth suggestions and interests
>>> that could assist us to move forward. Having an open forum as Darian
>>> has suggested can bring some balance and understanding to our
>>> elections, increase the involvment, and simplify the process for those
>>> who have only seen confusion. I am supposed to be on the inside, as a
>>> board member, and I can honestly say I am still confused as to who is
>>> running for what, why, and when. Meeting our candidates before the
>>> election is an idea that can assist us greatly in making the right
>>> decision for the new board.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Aziza Cano
>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>> Secretary
>>>
>>> On 8/10/09, cabs-talk-request at nfbnet.org <cabs-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>> To: cabs-talk <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>
>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>> membership might have.
>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>> best
>>>> Darian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:20:01 -0700
>>>> From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <0B4802ADFFD34C9DBE697259A55571A1 at MikePC>
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>>>>
>>>> Hi Darian. I'm sure someone can tell you which offices are up for
>>>> re-election. I went to the last CABS meeting at convention but am not
>>>> sure
>>>> which offices run for two years and
>>>> which are for one. If you attend the meeting however, each candidate
>>>> is
>>>> usually given a chance to introduce his/her self.
>>>> I suspect you could question the candidates from the audience if you
>>>> wanted
>>>> to find out about a specific One idea I think would be good is the CABS
>>>> constitution be posted on the website than any question about which
>>>> positions were open would be answered there.
>>>> The constitution if I remember was amended at the last
>>>> Meeting.
>>>> The CABS meeting will happen on Friday so I doubt there would be a lot
>>>> of
>>>> time for an involved discussion.
>>>> Perhaps if students wish such a discussion to occur candidates could
>>>> introduce themselves on the listserve or maybe a conference meeting
>>>> could
>>>>
>>>> be
>>>> conveened by one or more of the officers.
>>>> If such a position is open and if the division needs my services I have
>>>> told
>>>> some I will gladly serve as a board member at large. I have one year
>>>> left
>>>> until I graduate SDSU in June 2010 with my Masters in Rehabilitation.
>>>> I am not asking for the nomination but will be available if requested
>>>> to
>>>> serve. I am not requesting a
>>>> higher office. When our affiliate reorganized I was the first
>>>> president of the student division.
>>>> I held that office for a couple years and than it was taken by Michael
>>>> Bayliff.
>>>> I'm dating myself but doing it to say I want to see young blood have
>>>> the
>>>> opportunity to serve that I did whether Depa continues in the office
>>>> or
>>>> some one else is elected.
>>>> I feel that as a board member I could serve as an organizer and an
>>>> advisor
>>>> based on my previous experience.
>>>>
>>>> The rafting trip was a great idea and I commend the administration for
>>>> encouraging involvement of students. I however
>>>> would like to see regional seminars held in the north, the south
>>>> and perhaps in central California.
>>>> These seminars would focus on teaching students about things like
>>>> how to acquire scholarships, how to set up a PASS,
>>>> How to acquire books what options are available, bookshare.org, RFBD
>>>> etc
>>>> and
>>>> other topics. The seminars would be maybe from 10:00 a.m to 4:00 p.m
>>>> they
>>>> would
>>>> include a luncheon and maybe other features designed to get students
>>>> and parents to mingle and become familiar with the CABS and it's
>>>> role Why they should join CABS and what exactly is the NFB.
>>>> We would stress inviting blind high school students their parents, as
>>>> well
>>>> as
>>>> local high school and college officials.
>>>> Another idea that could be fun is a Student legislative lunchon.
>>>> It could be held in Sacramento and we could invite State legislatures
>>>> to
>>>> come
>>>> and talk with us as well as congressional leaders or their
>>>> representatives.
>>>> We might even consider a march to the capitol similar to the National
>>>> march
>>>> in Detroit and it could be a fundraiser as well as an educational
>>>> event.
>>>> What a way to end our luncheon or begin it whichhever.
>>>> I think probably the March should come first and end as we conveen for
>>>> the
>>>> luncheon!
>>>> I would also like to introduce some new fundraising projects such as
>>>> the
>>>> sell of holiday cards candles or gifts. This could be done online and
>>>> at
>>>> events
>>>> Other fundraisers also could be created
>>>> We could attempt to get fraternities and sorities to assist in our
>>>> efforts.
>>>> Moneys raised would be invested in developing
>>>> our student affiliate across
>>>> theState.
>>>> My emphasis would be get more students involved in participation!
>>>> To me the membership not the board is the student division.
>>>> We need students in mass to get involved if we want
>>>> college books to be accessible if
>>>> we want to influence change on our local campuses we need to
>>>> organize the numbers to make our voices heard.
>>>> We need to invite government officials and college
>>>> administrators to our meetings and when necessary we need to ask
>>>> hard questions.
>>>> We need to draft strong resolutions for the State convention and be
>>>> strong in our participation in the NABS.
>>>> We need to take very seriously the reality that
>>>> today's students are tomorrow's leaders in the NFBC.
>>>> This is why training seminars are so very important. We also need to
>>>> listen to the membership to work with the members and be receptive to
>>>> their
>>>> ideas.
>>>> We need to encourage all students to do the work
>>>> not just the board.That being said, in most organizations not just the
>>>> student
>>>> division NFBC a minority seems to "get stuck" doing a majority of the
>>>> work.
>>>> Please if you come to vote come also to participate as an
>>>> active member to help create the very best Student Division we have
>>>> ever
>>>> had and to take an active part not just in voting but in
>>>> shapeing
>>>> your own destiny!
>>>> We need you each of you we need your voice your energy your
>>>> creativity
>>>> and your unique talent that only you can provide.
>>>> So come Join us in Newark and help make our dreams come true.
>>>> Let's see a really large contingent of students on ThursdayOct 22,
>>>> walking
>>>> across the golden gate bridge! How fun.
>>>>
>>>> We are gifted in that we have some wonderful students with great
>>>> leadership
>>>> potential.
>>>> And with monumental budget cuts to education on the State level we
>>>> need
>>>> all the help we can get!
>>>> Let's make the Student division CABS as well as the NFBC the
>>>> best they can be by working together.
>>>> I will vote for the candidates I like but when the smoke clears
>>>> I will as now do all I can to support those the membership deems most
>>>> suited to be their leaders.
>>>> God bless:
>>>> Michael Peterson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "cabs-talk" <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:57 PM
>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>> best
>>>>> Darian
>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:15 -0700
>>>> From: Isabel arreola <twylyt74 at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>>> I completely endorse this proposal for such a forum . I am excited to
>>>> see
>>>> such interest in the chapter. Best of all, as a voter, it is nice to
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> hoice of cadidates to represent me as a blind student.
>>>> I nominate Angela Fouler to set up the web page.
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>> From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>>>>> To: cabs-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>> best
>>>>> Darian
>>>>>
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