[Cabs-talk] Let's get down to business.
Michael Peterson
its_mike at sbcglobal.net
Mon Aug 10 23:42:32 UTC 2009
Hi Darian that works great because the person who doesn't want to serve
under a specific leader would know prior to running.
Unless the president ends up with a slate of people he /she doesn't want to
serve with. I am sure if Angela is President she will work with everyone.
Not sure who is running at this point though.
Looks like we have a lot of interest in these elections which is great!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
<cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] Let's get down to business.
>i believe that positions are always elected from "highest ranking" to
> "lowest ranking". this is the case on the local level, and it's the
> case on the national level, so it would stand to reason that that's
> how this election will go, as well.
> Darian
>
> On 8/10/09, Michael Peterson <its_mike at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Ha ha Bruce
>> thanks for answering that question didn't see it when I last posted.
>> Maybe the other answer will appear before this one which offices are
>> coming
>> up?
>> I suggest if someone doesn't want to serve in a particular administration
>> all they have to do is pull their name from consideration.
>> Which order will officers be elected in Highest or lowest first?
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Sexton Jr." <bjsexton at comcast.net>
>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:10 PM
>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] Let's get down to business.
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Darian brings up more good points. I too would like to bring forward
>>> some
>>>
>>> points that have not yet been discussed. Some candidates will wish to
>>> make their announcement at the last minute that they are running, others
>>> may wish to keep their candidacy private. Some people may wish to run
>>> with one presidential candidate and not another. So, when having an
>>> open
>>> forum, we do have to proceed with care. Another important thing I must
>>> say, is that, unless circumstances change, I will not be running for a
>>> CABS position this year.
>>>
>>> Thank you, and I agree with Mike. I think Angela would be an excellent
>>> presidential CABS candidate if she so chooses to be. I think she would
>>> have the support of many who may be thinking of running.
>>> Yours Sincerely,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>
>>>
>>>> information servers of the list-serve,
>>>> I wonder if it's not a bad Idea to send the cabs constitutionas an
>>>> atatchment to this very list-serve?
>>>> though, i don't think that would answer all of the questions
>>>> regarding who's running for what.
>>>> Yes, B.J. is correct, i do remember taking part in a forum where the
>>>> then presidential canadates did speak.
>>>> so, maybe a questionI might pose is this go-round, would having all
>>>> the canadates who are running for all the board positions that are up,
>>>> involved in such a situation be an idea? more over, a good one?
>>>> Darian
>>>>
>>>> On 8/10/09, Bruce Sexton Jr. <bjsexton at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello members and concerned parties,
>>>>>
>>>>> As the First Vice-President on behalf of CABS, I would like to make
>>>>> some
>>>>> comments on the topic of an open forum. Let me first say, that our
>>>>> president, Deepa Goraya, is out of the country, in Italy. Last year,
>>>>> we
>>>>> provided the membership with an open forum over a conference call. I
>>>>> too
>>>>> think it is important to have transparency and frank discussions in
>>>>> every
>>>>> organization. I believe that there may be some confusion, because not
>>>>> everyone has decided where they would like to be in the upcoming
>>>>> elections.
>>>>> I am all for an informational discussion between everyone. Our next
>>>>> board
>>>>> meeting, which will be closed, will be on August 16th where the board
>>>>> will
>>>>> discuss the appropriate ways to insure a good positive open forum
>>>>> experience
>>>>> for everyone. So, if you have anything you would like to have brought
>>>>> up in
>>>>> this board meeting, please contact one of your board members to have
>>>>> them do
>>>>> so.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks, and I look forward to our upcoming discussion!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Bruce F. Sexton Jr., First Vice President
>>>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have recently returned from my second summer at the Colorado Center
>>>>>> of the Blind, having participated in NABS and the Colorado Student
>>>>>> Devisions activities over the summer, I am excited to be back in
>>>>>> California and eager to see our student devision evolve in the
>>>>>> upcoming year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I too have heard many rummors about possible candidates, candidates
>>>>>> for positions that are not even up for election in this upcoming
>>>>>> meeting. I would find it benificial to have an open forum where
>>>>>> interested candidates, and interested members can discuss the future
>>>>>> of the California Student Devision, as a board, we have already begun
>>>>>> planning out the upcoming year, however, the membership as a whole
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> a right to an oppinion, and to bring forth suggestions and interests
>>>>>> that could assist us to move forward. Having an open forum as Darian
>>>>>> has suggested can bring some balance and understanding to our
>>>>>> elections, increase the involvment, and simplify the process for
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> who have only seen confusion. I am supposed to be on the inside, as a
>>>>>> board member, and I can honestly say I am still confused as to who is
>>>>>> running for what, why, and when. Meeting our candidates before the
>>>>>> election is an idea that can assist us greatly in making the right
>>>>>> decision for the new board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Aziza Cano
>>>>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>>>> 1. rumors and reality: cabs election? (Darian Smith)
>>>>>>> 2. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Michael Peterson)
>>>>>>> 3. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Isabel arreola)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>>>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>> To: cabs-talk <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>> <409c235c0908092057p5e48bc9fh6d21028ff80f70a9 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:20:01 -0700
>>>>>>> From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>>>>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <0B4802ADFFD34C9DBE697259A55571A1 at MikePC>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
>>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Darian. I'm sure someone can tell you which offices are up
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> re-election. I went to the last CABS meeting at convention but am
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> which offices run for two years and
>>>>>>> which are for one. If you attend the meeting however, each
>>>>>>> candidate
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> usually given a chance to introduce his/her self.
>>>>>>> I suspect you could question the candidates from the audience if you
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to find out about a specific One idea I think would be good is the
>>>>>>> CABS
>>>>>>> constitution be posted on the website than any question about which
>>>>>>> positions were open would be answered there.
>>>>>>> The constitution if I remember was amended at the last
>>>>>>> Meeting.
>>>>>>> The CABS meeting will happen on Friday so I doubt there would be a
>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> time for an involved discussion.
>>>>>>> Perhaps if students wish such a discussion to occur candidates could
>>>>>>> introduce themselves on the listserve or maybe a conference meeting
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> conveened by one or more of the officers.
>>>>>>> If such a position is open and if the division needs my services I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> some I will gladly serve as a board member at large. I have one
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>> until I graduate SDSU in June 2010 with my Masters in
>>>>>>> Rehabilitation.
>>>>>>> I am not asking for the nomination but will be available if
>>>>>>> requested
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> serve. I am not requesting a
>>>>>>> higher office. When our affiliate reorganized I was the first
>>>>>>> president of the student division.
>>>>>>> I held that office for a couple years and than it was taken by
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> Bayliff.
>>>>>>> I'm dating myself but doing it to say I want to see young blood have
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> opportunity to serve that I did whether Depa continues in the
>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> some one else is elected.
>>>>>>> I feel that as a board member I could serve as an organizer and an
>>>>>>> advisor
>>>>>>> based on my previous experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rafting trip was a great idea and I commend the administration
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> encouraging involvement of students. I however
>>>>>>> would like to see regional seminars held in the north, the south
>>>>>>> and perhaps in central California.
>>>>>>> These seminars would focus on teaching students about things like
>>>>>>> how to acquire scholarships, how to set up a PASS,
>>>>>>> How to acquire books what options are available, bookshare.org, RFBD
>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> other topics. The seminars would be maybe from 10:00 a.m to 4:00
>>>>>>> p.m
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> include a luncheon and maybe other features designed to get
>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>> and parents to mingle and become familiar with the CABS and it's
>>>>>>> role Why they should join CABS and what exactly is the NFB.
>>>>>>> We would stress inviting blind high school students their parents,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> local high school and college officials.
>>>>>>> Another idea that could be fun is a Student legislative lunchon.
>>>>>>> It could be held in Sacramento and we could invite State
>>>>>>> legislatures
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>> and talk with us as well as congressional leaders or their
>>>>>>> representatives.
>>>>>>> We might even consider a march to the capitol similar to the
>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>> march
>>>>>>> in Detroit and it could be a fundraiser as well as an educational
>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>> What a way to end our luncheon or begin it whichhever.
>>>>>>> I think probably the March should come first and end as we conveen
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> luncheon!
>>>>>>> I would also like to introduce some new fundraising projects such as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sell of holiday cards candles or gifts. This could be done online
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>> Other fundraisers also could be created
>>>>>>> We could attempt to get fraternities and sorities to assist in our
>>>>>>> efforts.
>>>>>>> Moneys raised would be invested in developing
>>>>>>> our student affiliate across
>>>>>>> theState.
>>>>>>> My emphasis would be get more students involved in participation!
>>>>>>> To me the membership not the board is the student division.
>>>>>>> We need students in mass to get involved if we want
>>>>>>> college books to be accessible if
>>>>>>> we want to influence change on our local campuses we need to
>>>>>>> organize the numbers to make our voices heard.
>>>>>>> We need to invite government officials and college
>>>>>>> administrators to our meetings and when necessary we need to ask
>>>>>>> hard questions.
>>>>>>> We need to draft strong resolutions for the State convention and be
>>>>>>> strong in our participation in the NABS.
>>>>>>> We need to take very seriously the reality that
>>>>>>> today's students are tomorrow's leaders in the NFBC.
>>>>>>> This is why training seminars are so very important. We also need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> listen to the membership to work with the members and be receptive
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>> We need to encourage all students to do the work
>>>>>>> not just the board.That being said, in most organizations not just
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> student
>>>>>>> division NFBC a minority seems to "get stuck" doing a majority of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> Please if you come to vote come also to participate as an
>>>>>>> active member to help create the very best Student Division we have
>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>> had and to take an active part not just in voting but in
>>>>>>> shapeing
>>>>>>> your own destiny!
>>>>>>> We need you each of you we need your voice your energy your
>>>>>>> creativity
>>>>>>> and your unique talent that only you can provide.
>>>>>>> So come Join us in Newark and help make our dreams come true.
>>>>>>> Let's see a really large contingent of students on ThursdayOct 22,
>>>>>>> walking
>>>>>>> across the golden gate bridge! How fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are gifted in that we have some wonderful students with great
>>>>>>> leadership
>>>>>>> potential.
>>>>>>> And with monumental budget cuts to education on the State level we
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> all the help we can get!
>>>>>>> Let's make the Student division CABS as well as the NFBC the
>>>>>>> best they can be by working together.
>>>>>>> I will vote for the candidates I like but when the smoke clears
>>>>>>> I will as now do all I can to support those the membership deems
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> suited to be their leaders.
>>>>>>> God bless:
>>>>>>> Michael Peterson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "cabs-talk" <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing
>>>>>>>> rumors
>>>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for
>>>>>>>> election.
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:15 -0700
>>>>>>> From: Isabel arreola <twylyt74 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I completely endorse this proposal for such a forum . I am excited
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> such interest in the chapter. Best of all, as a voter, it is nice to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> hoice of cadidates to represent me as a blind student.
>>>>>>> I nominate Angela Fouler to set up the web page.
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> To: cabs-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>
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