[Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
Bruce Sexton Jr.
bjsexton at comcast.net
Tue Aug 11 01:53:59 UTC 2009
and if my memory serves me correctly, our treasurer was MIA many of the
meetings that we were trying to get an account established.
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From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
> Darian a conference call is a good idea. In order for that to work well
> first an anouncement needs to be sent explaining exactly which offices are
> open.
> Than Someone needs to collect names of those who are interested in each
> position.
> The call needs to be set up at a time when all the candidates can attend
> and it should be set up during a time students can attend.
> I personally don't like Sunday because I have other committments and often
> can't get to meetings held that day especially evening ones.
> Saturday or a week night except wednesday usually works better for me.
> I don't think a huge rift exists in the division although people have
> opinions on how things can and should be done.
> I also think though some folks say they don't want to serve with one
> candidate or the other many times that too can be worked out.
> Sometimes we have disagreements over things and people feel put on the
> defensive. For example, and this is just my personal opinion,
> I don't have any problem with Bruce Deepa or anyone else and
> am happy working with them to the best of my ability.
> But I do have a difference of opinion.
> During the last few years the student division CABS has financed retreats
> for the board members which cost significant amounts of money to fly
> people arround the state.
> As a result those moneys weren't spent
> doing things like recruiting students and
> I think those board meetings could have been held as well via telephone.
> In fact the board unity could have been established the same way flying
> board
> members to conduct these seminars.
> Also in my view the treasury wasn't handled well. When Terra(My wife)
> was treasurer she was ask to forge signatures and money was held in
> our safe cash money for several months.I think until
> February just before the last retreat in fact,
>
> I can definitely say during my administration that wouldn't have been
> permitted.
> Money needs to be kept in the bank at all times and accounted for
> because we are
> at risk of government problems if it's not
> not just problems for the CABS but also for the State affiliate NFBC.
> Also when someone is keeping several hundred dollars at there house
> their is a risk of burglary than what? When terra had that money in our
> safe after a few weeks I can tell you it felt scarry,
> Presidents of our State affiliate AKA Bob Acosta
> prior to our reorganization was taken to task for messing with the cash I
> think if I remember he borrowed money to buy a clock for his wife.
> Keeping our
> cash in a bank at all times leaves a clear trail no one will borrow a few
> bucks
> temporarily for a weekend trip to Las Vegas intending to Pay it back.
> and, I know all or most of our members are honest
> but keeping pillowcases full of cash for months well that's not
> professional
> in any circles.
> We need to make sure money is placed in an account and when necessary
> transferred from bank to bank just like the State affiliate does.
> I know signatures are a headache and such
> but that is the same for all organizations.
> When I was president of the San Fernando valley chapter many years ago a
> girlfriend was serving as an officer,
> I believe treasure but maybe secretary, it was many years ago.
> We broke up she left town and it was a nightmare doing paperwork
> but we got it done and the names got changed and I didn't keep physical
> cash
> at my house.
> I am not suggesting anyone is a bad leader,
> I have utmost respect for this administration but we need to be careful
> how we r
> un the organization and we need to do everything in our power
> to educate and recruit students so our voice will be heard as we strive
> to improve conditions for blind students pursuing higher education.
> Some would like thesee matters kept between board members
> but for those aspiring to sit on the board these are some of the issues
> you must address.
> The student division is a good training ground and
> dealing with these kinds of things enriches your resume when
> you graduate college.
> I do not plan on bringing these issues up in a forum.
> Mike
> We don't need to debate these opinions they are mine
> and I will do what I can to help whoever is elected.
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>
>
>> information servers of the list-serve,
>> I wonder if it's not a bad Idea to send the cabs constitutionas an
>> atatchment to this very list-serve?
>> though, i don't think that would answer all of the questions
>> regarding who's running for what.
>> Yes, B.J. is correct, i do remember taking part in a forum where the
>> then presidential canadates did speak.
>> so, maybe a questionI might pose is this go-round, would having all
>> the canadates who are running for all the board positions that are up,
>> involved in such a situation be an idea? more over, a good one?
>> Darian
>>
>> On 8/10/09, Bruce Sexton Jr. <bjsexton at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Hello members and concerned parties,
>>>
>>> As the First Vice-President on behalf of CABS, I would like to make some
>>> comments on the topic of an open forum. Let me first say, that our
>>> president, Deepa Goraya, is out of the country, in Italy. Last year, we
>>> provided the membership with an open forum over a conference call. I
>>> too
>>> think it is important to have transparency and frank discussions in
>>> every
>>> organization. I believe that there may be some confusion, because not
>>> everyone has decided where they would like to be in the upcoming
>>> elections.
>>> I am all for an informational discussion between everyone. Our next
>>> board
>>> meeting, which will be closed, will be on August 16th where the board
>>> will
>>> discuss the appropriate ways to insure a good positive open forum
>>> experience
>>> for everyone. So, if you have anything you would like to have brought
>>> up in
>>> this board meeting, please contact one of your board members to have
>>> them do
>>> so.
>>>
>>> thanks, and I look forward to our upcoming discussion!
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Bruce F. Sexton Jr., First Vice President
>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I have recently returned from my second summer at the Colorado Center
>>>> of the Blind, having participated in NABS and the Colorado Student
>>>> Devisions activities over the summer, I am excited to be back in
>>>> California and eager to see our student devision evolve in the
>>>> upcoming year.
>>>>
>>>> I too have heard many rummors about possible candidates, candidates
>>>> for positions that are not even up for election in this upcoming
>>>> meeting. I would find it benificial to have an open forum where
>>>> interested candidates, and interested members can discuss the future
>>>> of the California Student Devision, as a board, we have already begun
>>>> planning out the upcoming year, however, the membership as a whole has
>>>> a right to an oppinion, and to bring forth suggestions and interests
>>>> that could assist us to move forward. Having an open forum as Darian
>>>> has suggested can bring some balance and understanding to our
>>>> elections, increase the involvment, and simplify the process for those
>>>> who have only seen confusion. I am supposed to be on the inside, as a
>>>> board member, and I can honestly say I am still confused as to who is
>>>> running for what, why, and when. Meeting our candidates before the
>>>> election is an idea that can assist us greatly in making the right
>>>> decision for the new board.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Aziza Cano
>>>> California Association of Blind Students
>>>> Secretary
>>>>
>>>> On 8/10/09, cabs-talk-request at nfbnet.org <cabs-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
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>>>>> 1. rumors and reality: cabs election? (Darian Smith)
>>>>> 2. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Michael Peterson)
>>>>> 3. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Isabel arreola)
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>> To: cabs-talk <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <409c235c0908092057p5e48bc9fh6d21028ff80f70a9 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>> best
>>>>> Darian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:20:01 -0700
>>>>> From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <0B4802ADFFD34C9DBE697259A55571A1 at MikePC>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Darian. I'm sure someone can tell you which offices are up for
>>>>> re-election. I went to the last CABS meeting at convention but am not
>>>>> sure
>>>>> which offices run for two years and
>>>>> which are for one. If you attend the meeting however, each candidate
>>>>> is
>>>>> usually given a chance to introduce his/her self.
>>>>> I suspect you could question the candidates from the audience if you
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to find out about a specific One idea I think would be good is the
>>>>> CABS
>>>>> constitution be posted on the website than any question about which
>>>>> positions were open would be answered there.
>>>>> The constitution if I remember was amended at the last
>>>>> Meeting.
>>>>> The CABS meeting will happen on Friday so I doubt there would be a
>>>>> lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> time for an involved discussion.
>>>>> Perhaps if students wish such a discussion to occur candidates could
>>>>> introduce themselves on the listserve or maybe a conference meeting
>>>>> could
>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>> conveened by one or more of the officers.
>>>>> If such a position is open and if the division needs my services I
>>>>> have
>>>>> told
>>>>> some I will gladly serve as a board member at large. I have one year
>>>>> left
>>>>> until I graduate SDSU in June 2010 with my Masters in Rehabilitation.
>>>>> I am not asking for the nomination but will be available if requested
>>>>> to
>>>>> serve. I am not requesting a
>>>>> higher office. When our affiliate reorganized I was the first
>>>>> president of the student division.
>>>>> I held that office for a couple years and than it was taken by
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> Bayliff.
>>>>> I'm dating myself but doing it to say I want to see young blood have
>>>>> the
>>>>> opportunity to serve that I did whether Depa continues in the office
>>>>> or
>>>>> some one else is elected.
>>>>> I feel that as a board member I could serve as an organizer and an
>>>>> advisor
>>>>> based on my previous experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rafting trip was a great idea and I commend the administration for
>>>>> encouraging involvement of students. I however
>>>>> would like to see regional seminars held in the north, the south
>>>>> and perhaps in central California.
>>>>> These seminars would focus on teaching students about things like
>>>>> how to acquire scholarships, how to set up a PASS,
>>>>> How to acquire books what options are available, bookshare.org, RFBD
>>>>> etc
>>>>> and
>>>>> other topics. The seminars would be maybe from 10:00 a.m to 4:00 p.m
>>>>> they
>>>>> would
>>>>> include a luncheon and maybe other features designed to get students
>>>>> and parents to mingle and become familiar with the CABS and it's
>>>>> role Why they should join CABS and what exactly is the NFB.
>>>>> We would stress inviting blind high school students their parents, as
>>>>> well
>>>>> as
>>>>> local high school and college officials.
>>>>> Another idea that could be fun is a Student legislative lunchon.
>>>>> It could be held in Sacramento and we could invite State legislatures
>>>>> to
>>>>> come
>>>>> and talk with us as well as congressional leaders or their
>>>>> representatives.
>>>>> We might even consider a march to the capitol similar to the National
>>>>> march
>>>>> in Detroit and it could be a fundraiser as well as an educational
>>>>> event.
>>>>> What a way to end our luncheon or begin it whichhever.
>>>>> I think probably the March should come first and end as we conveen for
>>>>> the
>>>>> luncheon!
>>>>> I would also like to introduce some new fundraising projects such as
>>>>> the
>>>>> sell of holiday cards candles or gifts. This could be done online
>>>>> and
>>>>> at
>>>>> events
>>>>> Other fundraisers also could be created
>>>>> We could attempt to get fraternities and sorities to assist in our
>>>>> efforts.
>>>>> Moneys raised would be invested in developing
>>>>> our student affiliate across
>>>>> theState.
>>>>> My emphasis would be get more students involved in participation!
>>>>> To me the membership not the board is the student division.
>>>>> We need students in mass to get involved if we want
>>>>> college books to be accessible if
>>>>> we want to influence change on our local campuses we need to
>>>>> organize the numbers to make our voices heard.
>>>>> We need to invite government officials and college
>>>>> administrators to our meetings and when necessary we need to ask
>>>>> hard questions.
>>>>> We need to draft strong resolutions for the State convention and be
>>>>> strong in our participation in the NABS.
>>>>> We need to take very seriously the reality that
>>>>> today's students are tomorrow's leaders in the NFBC.
>>>>> This is why training seminars are so very important. We also need to
>>>>> listen to the membership to work with the members and be receptive to
>>>>> their
>>>>> ideas.
>>>>> We need to encourage all students to do the work
>>>>> not just the board.That being said, in most organizations not just the
>>>>> student
>>>>> division NFBC a minority seems to "get stuck" doing a majority of the
>>>>> work.
>>>>> Please if you come to vote come also to participate as an
>>>>> active member to help create the very best Student Division we have
>>>>> ever
>>>>> had and to take an active part not just in voting but in
>>>>> shapeing
>>>>> your own destiny!
>>>>> We need you each of you we need your voice your energy your
>>>>> creativity
>>>>> and your unique talent that only you can provide.
>>>>> So come Join us in Newark and help make our dreams come true.
>>>>> Let's see a really large contingent of students on ThursdayOct 22,
>>>>> walking
>>>>> across the golden gate bridge! How fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are gifted in that we have some wonderful students with great
>>>>> leadership
>>>>> potential.
>>>>> And with monumental budget cuts to education on the State level we
>>>>> need
>>>>> all the help we can get!
>>>>> Let's make the Student division CABS as well as the NFBC the
>>>>> best they can be by working together.
>>>>> I will vote for the candidates I like but when the smoke clears
>>>>> I will as now do all I can to support those the membership deems most
>>>>> suited to be their leaders.
>>>>> God bless:
>>>>> Michael Peterson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "cabs-talk" <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:15 -0700
>>>>> From: Isabel arreola <twylyt74 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>>>>
>>>>> I completely endorse this proposal for such a forum . I am excited to
>>>>> see
>>>>> such interest in the chapter. Best of all, as a voter, it is nice to
>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> hoice of cadidates to represent me as a blind student.
>>>>> I nominate Angela Fouler to set up the web page.
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>>> From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: cabs-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing rumors
>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for election.
>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has in
>>>>>> the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work
>>>>>> C. find out what positions are up for election.
>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the canadates
>>>>>> who wish to seek election in one place, talking about their
>>>>>> backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the division to
>>>>>> strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions that the
>>>>>> membership might have.
>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have a
>>>>>> moderator who would ask two or three questions to the canadets
>>>>>> running for these positions as well.
>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students to
>>>>>> chime in on the idea.
>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>
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