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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Marci that was an excellent email. I support you and our chapter and our state and national organizations 100 percent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Les Fitzpatrick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Piano Technician<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ham call sign K5FPT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b> CCCNFBW <cccnfbw-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Marci Carpenter via CCCNFBW<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 5, 2020 7:38 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NFB of Washington List Clark County Chapter <cccnfbw@nfbnet.org><br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Marci Carpenter <mjc59@comcast.net>; Vaughn Brown <jazzdressage@gmail.com><br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [CCCNFBW] guide dogs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hello Vaughn <br><br>As President of the National Federation of the Blind of Washington I want to address issues you raised in your email concerning Marion Gwizdala, guide dog issues and also our Clark County chapter and our state affiliate. Marion Gwizdala is the elected President of the National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU), a division of the National Federation of the Blind. He was elected to the position by guide dog users attending our national convention, some of whom are members of this chapter and this affiliate. In that role he speaks for NAGDU and thus for the Federation. As anyone who has attended National Federation of the Blind conventions can tell you NAGDU holds meetings with lively discussions every year at its annual meeting. The national convention also considers many resolutions regarding guide dogs and guide dog schools, some of which pass and some which don’t. Our national convention is the supreme authority of the Federation. Leaders speak for the Federation in between conventions, weather they are leaders of chapters, state affiliates or state or national divisions.<br><br>Regarding the Clark County chapter and the National Federation of the Blind of Washington (and all levels of the Federation) we do not tolerate discrimination against blind people. Those who feel they may have been discriminated against by an agency or company can and do file complaints against those entities. If we feel that a case has merit we will support it with legal and other resources to whatever extent we are able. I am not aware of any findings of discrimination against the Washington State School for the Blind. If you or anyone else is aware of such findings I would encourage you to contact me. I do not consider the location of the Clark County chapter meetings to be discriminatory.<br><br>As members of the National Federation of the Blind we pledge to participate actively in the efforts of the National Federation of the Blind to achieve equality, opportunity and security for the blind, to support the policies and programs of the Federation and to abide by its constitution. Our lists are forums for discussion and debate about issues we are considering. Many people ask questions. They may question why we do a certain thing. These discussions are welcome. What is not welcome is a personal attack on any member or elected leader of this organization or false accusations concerning a chapter, affiliate or any other body in the Federation. Anyone who violates our list rules, which are published each month by David Andrews and which apply regardless of the sender’s membership status in the Federation, is subject to removal from this or any other list.<br><br>Marci Carpenter, President<br>National Federation of the Blind of Washington<br>206-604-5507<br><a href="mailto:mjc59@comcast.net">mjc59@comcast.net</a><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Vaughn Brown via CCCNFBW <<a href="mailto:cccnfbw@nfbnet.org">cccnfbw@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Lately Marion has been attacking guide dog training centers as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>president of the guide dog users branch of NFB. He noted that no guide<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>dog program has endorsed the so-called "bill of rights". And rightly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>so for the bill of rights are without input from any of these centers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>He also sent out an email several weeks ago with stories about<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>trainers grabbing dogs from their handlers and taking them away or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>forceably removing harnasses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As a legal studies student I find his unfounded attacks on guide dog<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>centers severely disappointing. I received guide dogs from two<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>separate centers and never read in their policies the need to snatch<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>dogs or harnasses from handlers. Nor did Marion cite any cases in<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>which this occurred. Legal cases are published by courts or are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>available in other forms. And I am disappointed that this chapter and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>the Washington chapter endorsed his attacks on the centers by not<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>addressing this matter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I was planning on paying my $5 fee and join you but since Marion's<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>hostile emails and unfounded attitudes has gone out publically I<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>withdraw my decision. I also withdraw my decision because this chapter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>endorses blindness discrimination against employees by taking up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>meetings at WSSB. Many of your on the board are employees of WSSB and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>are perfectly aware of Scott's and Sean's discriminatory policies. I<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>will remain friends with the members but I, until this chapter changes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>its location and addresses Marion's hostile emails regarding guide dog<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>training centers, will not and cannot, in good faith, support NFB as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>an organization.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I will, instead, be joining the American Council of the Blind.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>You are welcome to contact me to share your thoughts. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Vaughn Brown<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>