[Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility

Wed Jun 5 19:36:15 UTC 2024

You're all off in the weeds. The rules will be crafted to implement the
state law that just passed. That was the post Tim made to kick off this
thread. Even though DIA is part of Denver, it will be covered by this law
and the subsequent rules, including the wayfinding provisions

My point was that depending on how the rules process goes and how
wayfinding is defined, DIA might be compliant already with its Aira
contract.

But the big takeaway is that the NFB needs to be a major contributor to
this rule process, or we could have an accommodation imposed on us that we
neither need nor want.

Dan

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:33 PM Theresa Montano via Colorado-Talk <
colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Yes, this is what I’m saying.  I am responsible for the state contract, so
> I’m well aware who owns what.
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> That is what I stated, thank you for validating.
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *kevan
> nfbco.org via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 4:51 PM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* kevan nfbco.org <kevan at nfbco.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
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> The Ira con tract regarding the airport is with the city of Denver
> airport. But there is a contract between Ira and the state of Colorado to
> provide free! Free iris service on all state property. This includes
> universities and parks, operated by the state of Colorado. I I know that
> there are some state employees benefiting from this.
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> At Your Service,
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> Kevan Worley
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> On Jun 4, 2024, at 4:03 PM, Theresa Montano via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Aira contract is not with the state.  The City and County of Denver owns
> that.
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> So we as the state wouldn’t apply Rules.
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> Unless I’m out of the loop on something regarding the Rules!  😝
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Dan
> Burke via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 3:04 PM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
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> The devil will be in the details, of course, because the state rules have
> to be crafted and published. By some definitions, Aira would be considered
> wayfinding technology an d thus DIA would already be in compliance.
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> BTW, there's no way the rules will be ready for a good while.
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> Dan
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 10:38 AM kevan nfbco.org via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I use Aria at DIA and many other airports. Now you got me curious!
> Wayfinding technology often means many different things. I wonder what the
> aspiration is for this project. I know that SFO has received a lot of
> acclaim for the work the San Francisco Light House and its partners have
> done. But I haven't flown through there since before pandemic. Again, maybe
> we need a little group to dig into this a little bit. I’m going to reach
> out to COS airport director today as a follow-up here.
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Nate
> Trela via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 9:54 AM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Nate Trela <ntrela at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
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> Looks like it could be something by a company called Lazarillo, which won
> a SmartCities competition last year. Sounds a lot like GoodMaps, which I
> found pretty helpful in Louisville's airport a couple years a go.
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> Lazarillo selected to install accessible way finding technology in the
> denver international airport
> <https://lazarillo.app/uncategorized/denverairportannouncement/>
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> lazarillo.app
> <https://lazarillo.app/uncategorized/denverairportannouncement/>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 4, 2024, at 9:46 AM, Tim Keenan via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> That’s great! It says it’s supposed to be operational by the middle of the
> year. Supposed to be. 😊
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> I’m flying in late July and again in late August, so naturally, I’m super
> curious how this is going to work.
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> I hope they’re bringing in blind travelers to help test it.
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> Thanks,
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> Tim
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Julie
> Reiskin via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 9:35 AM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Julie Reiskin <jreiskin at ccdconline.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
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> We absolutely included wayfinding as something that needed to be included
> in DIA accessibility.
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:23 AM Curtis Chong via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hello Tim:
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> I don't know what is planned in terms of wayfinding technology for the
> blind, but I do know that the Denver International Airport is an Aira free
> zone, meaning that none of your minutes are used if you use Aira at the
> airport.
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> Kindly,
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> Curtis Chong
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Tim
> Keenan via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 9:13 AM
> *To:* 'NFB of Colorado Discussion List' <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* tkeenan79 at gmail.com
> *Subject:* [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
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> Hi, all,
>
> I was intrigued by this little slice of an article I read in the Denver
> Post about a bill to improve accessibility at DIA:
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> Before it was amended, the bill provided grounds for potential lawsuits if
> the airport failed to meet several deadlines that are still set out in the
> legislation. Those include installing wayfinding technology to serve people
> who are blind or vision impaired by the middle of this year;
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> Say what? Anyone know anything about this?
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> Thanks,
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> Tim
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