[Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility

Thu Jun 6 17:09:29 UTC 2024

This is the bill referenced in the article mentioned.
HB24-1452
Airport Accessibility Requirements

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1452

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 4:42 PM Theresa Montano via Colorado-Talk <
colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Dan, which Bill are you referring to?  I’m asking because we do not have
> any Rule making on our radar here at the Governor’s Office for anything at
> the airport.
>
> Is it for HB 1452, there is an Advisory Committee with some Rule making
> but that is a different kind of Rule Making.
>
>
>
> Otherwise there were 2 other Bills  involving the Airport.
>
> There were a couple of bills this session around airport accessibility.
>
>
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> HB24-1165, Denver Airport Accessibility
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__leg.colorado.gov_bills_hb24-2D1165&d=DwMFaQ&c=sdnEM9SRGFuMt5z5w3AhsPNahmNicq64TgF1JwNR0cs&r=POXFNpI9lzB-36NXnN77zUaZUGHpZJgDLQuTybdO0vs&m=rgjGPjCiQgJX61M0DRi4v2atkVTuc4Q6rS1zZAcYH817IRuhwOtUOQJFil5abxm9&s=tDBSI6SeJokx4t8ehrLAJBJJCMaDd_hvkHjDyvI5z34&e=>,
> did not pass. It did not make it past the House Appropriations Committee.
> The Division of Aeronautics in CDOT would have been authorized to create
> rules around enforcement of various accessibility requirements at DIA. One
> of the accessibility requirements would have been to "incorporate
> wayfinding technology to assist individuals who are blind or visually
> impaired to navigate the airport independently."
>
>
>
> HB24-1452, Airport Accessibility Requirements
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__leg.colorado.gov_bills_hb24-2D1452&d=DwMFaQ&c=sdnEM9SRGFuMt5z5w3AhsPNahmNicq64TgF1JwNR0cs&r=POXFNpI9lzB-36NXnN77zUaZUGHpZJgDLQuTybdO0vs&m=rgjGPjCiQgJX61M0DRi4v2atkVTuc4Q6rS1zZAcYH817IRuhwOtUOQJFil5abxm9&s=NkAuijt1Va9HmJNrmtTwIGf7gzd9WXc6uJem80Cro1A&e=> did
> pass although it hasn't yet been signed by Gov. Polis. Michael says that
> Friday, June 7 is the last day for Polis to take action on bills from this
> session. This bill doesn't have CDOT making rules for enforcement. Instead,
> each large hub airport in Colorado has various accessibility duties,
> including incorporating wayfinding. Also each large hub airport is supposed
> to establish an advisory committee for the cross-disabled community,
> including representation from various disabilities. The committee is to
> identify areas for improvement and provide input during renovations and
> construction of walkways and facilities.
>
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> Theresa Montano
> Senior Solutions Architect of Accessibility PMP/CSM
> Technology Accessibility Program
>
>
>
> P 303.862.1683
>
> 1575 Sherman Street, Denver, CO 80203
> State Scoop Innovation Award 2022
> International Association of Accessibility Professionals (IAAP)
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>
> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *kevan
> nfbco.org via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 2:57 PM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* kevan nfbco.org <kevan at nfbco.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
>
>
>
> Dan, thanks for clarification. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been off
> in the weeds. And it won’t be the last. Although, I think my comment was
> appropriate to the conversation. That is to say, there will be some rules
> relative to the recent change in state law And that Ira has a contract with
> the state and Ira has a contract with Denver international airport. What I
> really am trying to do is promote using the Aira con tract with the state
> of Colorado because it can be used on all state property. The team dealing
> with access technologies out of the governors office advocated for that
> contract. So if we don’t use it? We will lose it.
>
> At Your Service,
>
> Kevan Worley
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Dan Burke via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> You're all off in the weeds. The rules will be crafted to implement the
> state law that just passed. That was the post Tim made to kick off this
> thread. Even though DIA is part of Denver, it will be covered by this law
> and the subsequent rules, including the wayfinding provisions
>
>
>
> My point was that depending on how the rules process goes and how
> wayfinding is defined, DIA might be compliant already with its Aira
> contract.
>
>
>
> But the big takeaway is that the NFB needs to be a major contributor to
> this rule process, or we could have an accommodation imposed on us that we
> neither need nor want.
>
>
>
> Dan
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:33 PM Theresa Montano via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Yes, this is what I’m saying.  I am responsible for the state contract, so
> I’m well aware who owns what.
>
> That is what I stated, thank you for validating.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *kevan
> nfbco.org via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 4:51 PM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* kevan nfbco.org <kevan at nfbco.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
>
>
>
> The Ira con tract regarding the airport is with the city of Denver
> airport. But there is a contract between Ira and the state of Colorado to
> provide free! Free iris service on all state property. This includes
> universities and parks, operated by the state of Colorado. I I know that
> there are some state employees benefiting from this.
>
> At Your Service,
>
> Kevan Worley
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2024, at 4:03 PM, Theresa Montano via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Aira contract is not with the state.  The City and County of Denver owns
> that.
>
> So we as the state wouldn’t apply Rules.
>
> Unless I’m out of the loop on something regarding the Rules!  😝
>
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Dan
> Burke via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 3:04 PM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
>
>
>
> The devil will be in the details, of course, because the state rules have
> to be crafted and published. By some definitions, Aira would be considered
> wayfinding technology an d thus DIA would already be in compliance.
>
>
>
> BTW, there's no way the rules will be ready for a good while.
>
> Dan
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 10:38 AM kevan nfbco.org via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I use Aria at DIA and many other airports. Now you got me curious!
> Wayfinding technology often means many different things. I wonder what the
> aspiration is for this project. I know that SFO has received a lot of
> acclaim for the work the San Francisco Light House and its partners have
> done. But I haven't flown through there since before pandemic. Again, maybe
> we need a little group to dig into this a little bit. I’m going to reach
> out to COS airport director today as a follow-up here.
>
>
>
> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Nate
> Trela via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 9:54 AM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Nate Trela <ntrela at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
>
>
>
> Looks like it could be something by a company called Lazarillo, which won
> a SmartCities competition last year. Sounds a lot like GoodMaps, which I
> found pretty helpful in Louisville's airport a couple years a go.
>
>
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> <image001.jpg>
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> Lazarillo selected to install accessible way finding technology in the
> denver international airport
> <https://lazarillo.app/uncategorized/denverairportannouncement/>
>
> lazarillo.app
> <https://lazarillo.app/uncategorized/denverairportannouncement/>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 4, 2024, at 9:46 AM, Tim Keenan via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> 
>
> That’s great! It says it’s supposed to be operational by the middle of the
> year. Supposed to be. 😊
>
> I’m flying in late July and again in late August, so naturally, I’m super
> curious how this is going to work.
>
> I hope they’re bringing in blind travelers to help test it.
>
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> Thanks,
>
> Tim
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Julie
> Reiskin via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 9:35 AM
> *To:* NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Julie Reiskin <jreiskin at ccdconline.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
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>
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> We absolutely included wayfinding as something that needed to be included
> in DIA accessibility.
>
>
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:23 AM Curtis Chong via Colorado-Talk <
> colorado-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hello Tim:
>
>
>
> I don't know what is planned in terms of wayfinding technology for the
> blind, but I do know that the Denver International Airport is an Aira free
> zone, meaning that none of your minutes are used if you use Aira at the
> airport.
>
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>
> Kindly,
>
>
>
> Curtis Chong
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> *From:* Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Tim
> Keenan via Colorado-Talk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 9:13 AM
> *To:* 'NFB of Colorado Discussion List' <colorado-talk at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* tkeenan79 at gmail.com
> *Subject:* [Colorado-Talk] DIA Accessibility
>
>
>
> Hi, all,
>
> I was intrigued by this little slice of an article I read in the Denver
> Post about a bill to improve accessibility at DIA:
>
> Before it was amended, the bill provided grounds for potential lawsuits if
> the airport failed to meet several deadlines that are still set out in the
> legislation. Those include installing wayfinding technology to serve people
> who are blind or vision impaired by the middle of this year;
>
>
>
> Say what? Anyone know anything about this?
>
>
>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
>
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