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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I suggest that the 2 of you send me your cards for further evaluation and analysis. You can trust me. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>At Your Service,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kevan Worley<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>303-929-2369<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Colorado-Talk <colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gail Hamilton via Colorado-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 18, 2021 2:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> NFB of Colorado Discussion List <colorado-talk@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Gail Hamilton <gail@soaringintogreatness.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colorado-Talk] Wells Fargo and Braille credit cards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My pleasure. Yep, 16 numbers decreased in space by two finger withs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Colorado-Talk <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Sandoval via Colorado-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 18, 2021 2:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'NFB of Colorado Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Paul Sandoval <<a href="mailto:paulsandoval75@gmail.com">paulsandoval75@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colorado-Talk] Wells Fargo and Braille credit cards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, this is accurate, the braille on my card goes from edge to edge. There is no way to cram that braille any tighter. If it is still only on one line I can see how this is impossible to read.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for the clarification.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Paul Sandoval<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>President - Wild West Metro Chapter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Board Member - National Federation of The Blind of Colorado<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Board Member - Colorado Association of Guide Dog Users<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>email: <a href="mailto:paulsandoval75@gmail.com">paulsandoval75@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Phone: 720-620-8007<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Colorado-Talk <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gail Hamilton via Colorado-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 18, 2021 11:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> NFB of Colorado Discussion List <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Gail Hamilton <<a href="mailto:gail@soaringintogreatness.com">gail@soaringintogreatness.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colorado-Talk] Wells Fargo and Braille credit cards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Paul<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, your experience is valid for the former cards. However, what I’ve seen on the recent cards is not micro Braille. Formally, the 16 digit account number went from the left edge of the card to the right edge. Now, there is at least two fingers worth of space that is blank. What once was micro Braille is now totally illegible. I’d defy any Braille reader to discern the numbers and all other information on the new cards.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Colorado-Talk <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Sandoval via Colorado-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 18, 2021 11:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'NFB of Colorado Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Paul Sandoval <<a href="mailto:paulsandoval75@gmail.com">paulsandoval75@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colorado-Talk] Wells Fargo and Braille credit cards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So I have a Wels Fargo debit card. The braille is what some may consider micro-braille. This means the dots are closer together, and the 16 digit code is all on one line. The dots seem to be a standard size however. I have to admit it is a little difficult to read, but I wonder if this is the same as having small print that standard vision would struggle to read?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The expiration and CVN are easier to read since its not part of a longer string of text.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Paul Sandoval<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>President - Wild West Metro Chapter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Vice President - National Association of Guide Dog Users<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Board Member - National Federation of The Blind of Colorado<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Board Member - Colorado Association of Guide Dog Users<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>email: <a href="mailto:paulsandoval75@gmail.com">paulsandoval75@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Phone: 720-620-8007<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Colorado-Talk <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevan Worley via Colorado-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 18, 2021 3:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> NFB of Colorado Discussion List <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Kevan Worley <<a href="mailto:kevan@nfbco.org">kevan@nfbco.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colorado-Talk] Wells Fargo and Braille credit cards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I am a Wells customer. I will join you in reaching out to them.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>At Your Service,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kevan Worley<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Oct 16, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Gail Hamilton via Colorado-Talk <<a href="mailto:colorado-talk@nfbnet.org">colorado-talk@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m not sure if any of you have run across this issue yet; however, I thought I’d bring this to your attention. About two months ago, I ordered a new American Express credit card from Wells Fargo bank. In the past, they have provided Braille credit cards to their customers. Evidently, they changed their formatting. Their latest Braille credit cards are compressed and illegible. I think they are putting the Braille in the same space as they would put the print. I’ve complained twice and have received two new credit cards which have the same illegible Braille. I was told today that if more than one person would call and voice their complaints that perhaps Wells Fargo would see the light to change. I like Wells Fargo for the fact that they have Braille bank statements. Obviously, they didn’t have a Braille reader proof read the Braille credit card before implementing the change. I’m hoping some of you can complain and Wells Fargo would return the credit and debit cards back to the former Braille formatting style. 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