[Community-service] On Collecting Can Tops

Steven Johnson blinddog3 at charter.net
Tue Jan 7 11:32:40 UTC 2014 

Very cool, now this is the type of information we need to hear.  Thanks,
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: Community-service [mailto:community-service-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Holly Idler
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:29 AM
To: Community Service Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Community-service] On Collecting Can Tops

I have stayed at the Ronald McDonald House in Gainesville, Fl where the
poptops are collected. The house attendant explained that although they
don't make anymore for the tops then they would the cans themselves, that
collecting the tops is easier, cleaner and takes less room then recycling
the entire cans. There often donors who will match the money that's brought
in from the poptops. I don't think anything that has a poptop but v8 fission
cans, but we save the tops and recycle the can ourselves. 
Holly   

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> On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:34 AM, "Denise Shaible" <denise.shaible at att.net>
wrote:
> 
> Wow!  I would have never guessed that the can tops were being used in
scams. It leads me to think that simply saving them and redeeming them as
people do with plastic bottles would be better and then donate the money to
a needy group or person.  I always thought that certain hospitals or
organizations used the tops but, I'm glad to know it's not real before
starting to collect them or suggesting that the Community Service Group get
into it for a fund raiser.
> 
> 
> I guess we really do need to do some due dilligence.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Denise
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Clark
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:10 PM
> To: blinddog3 at charter.net ; 'Community Service Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Community-service] On Collecting Can Tops
> 
> Well, it proves we have to check and double check things before we 
> jump into a project. Something like "Due Diligence"? I watch a program 
> on television called "American Greed". It is amazing what crooks get 
> away with and folk believe them.
> 
> Michelle
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Community-service [mailto:community-service-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:22 PM
> To: 'Community Service Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Community-service] On Collecting Can Tops
> 
> From www.SNOPES.com
> 
> I also found that the aluminum in the tops is the same as in the 
> can...and from what we are reading, it is simply aluminum that is 
> being collected.  I fell for it as well.
> 
> Claim:   Pull tabs from aluminum cans have special redemption value for
time
> on dialysis machines.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> FALSE
> 
> 
> 
> Origins:   A legend this good-hearted should be true. But it's not. And a
> lot of really nice people end up sadly disappointed when they 
> eventually discover all their hard work pretty much went for naught.
> 
> Pulltabs have no special value that makes them redeemable for time on 
> dialysis machines, or indeed which make them worth far in excess of 
> their ordinary scrap metal recycle value. While a handful of 
> charitable concerns (including McDonald's Ronald McDonald House and 
> Shriners Hospitals for
> Children) accept donations of can tabs, said tabs fetch such groups no 
> more than the items' ordinary recycle value (more on that later in this
article).
> 
> 
> The National Kidney Foundation (NKF) says this of the dialysis rumor 
> that has been dogging them for quite a while:
> A false rumor that has plagued the National Kidney Foundation (NKF) 
> and the aluminum industry for decades has recently resurfaced, perhaps 
> fueled by the Internet. Individuals and groups believe they can donate 
> the pull tabs on aluminum cans in exchange for time on a kidney dialysis
machine.
> 
> Such a program has never existed through the NKF, nor have there ever 
> been programs through the foundation allowing people to exchange any 
> type of item (box tops, product points, etc.) for time on dialysis.
> I don't think anyone is ever going to figure out where what have come 
> to be called "redemption rumors" first came from. The notion of 
> something of little value (pull-tabs, empty cigarette packs) being 
> collected by good-hearted people and then turned over to a 
> public-spirited company who would redeem them for an item that would 
> help the less fortunate (time on a dialysis machine, a wheelchair, a 
> seeing eye dog) goes back a long way - ours is far from the first
generation to fall for this canard.
> 
> A 2002 article described a common experience with the rumor:
> Back when 15-year-old Elizabeth Bohli was in the third grade, she had 
> a friend who had a friend who had leukemia. Word was that the sick 
> girl's doctor told her about a program in which the Coca-Cola Co. 
> would pay for one chemotherapy session for every 1,000 aluminum pop-tops
collected.
> 
> Elizabeth remembered that program when her 12-year-old sister, Jenny, 
> was diagnosed with melanoma in September, and a massive collection 
> drive began at Pelham High School.
> 
> For two months, students, teachers and parents brought in thousands of 
> the tiny aluminum objects.
> 
> Soon, other schools were calling, asking how they could donate their 
> pop-tops. Word spread to churches, which eagerly jumped in to help. 
> And one friend told another, and another and another.
> 
> Since then, the pop-tops campaign has gone, well, a little over the 
> top. As of this week, more than 276,000 had been collected.
> 
> And they're still pouring in.
> 
> But none of that metal will translate into free treatments for Jenny. 
> "It was just an old myth," she said this week.
> 
> Jenny's mother, Jo, called Coca-Cola recently, feeling as though she 
> held a winning lottery ticket in her hands. Then she asked how she 
> could cash in the pop-tops for money to pay for her daughter's
immunotherapy treatments.
> 
> At first, there was laughter. Then the voice on the other end told her 
> there's no such program.
> 
> "She actually laughed because she couldn't believe that the kids had 
> collected so many," Bohli said. "To me, it was just so outstanding 
> that these kids made such a fantastic effort to help Jenny."
> 
> Walker Jones, community relations director for Coca-Cola in 
> Birmingham, said that while the company works with some cancer-related 
> charities, it does not redeem pop-tops for medical treatments.
> 
> Jones doesn't know who perpetuates the pop-tops rumor, but it has been 
> fizzing around for some time. "I think the myth has been going on for 
> over
> 20 years," she said.1
> There's nothing special about pull tabs which makes them exchangeable 
> for time on a dialysis machine. These bits of metal are worth nothing 
> more than the ordinary recycle value of the aluminum they contain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Community-service [mailto:community-service-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Denyece Roberts, MSW, RCSW
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 6:48 PM
> To: Community Service Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Community-service] On Collecting Can Tops
> 
> Hello everyone, with my busy schedule I'm just getting a chance to 
> check my emails.  The  soda tabs are used for dialysis, and heart
patients.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brooke Evans" <brooke6358 at aol.com>
> To: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>; "Community Service 
> Discussion List" <community-service at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <community-service at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Community-service] On Collecting Can Tops
> 
> 
>> Everett,
>> 
>> Your info is correct!.......and thank you for the reminder, which I'd 
>> totally forgotten about.....it's the aluminum that brings funds into 
>> the coffers of the club piggy bank.  bre
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2014, at 10:58 AM, "Everett Gavel"
>>> <everett at everettgavel.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michelle, Chris, and all,
>>> 
>>> What I heard, probably more than a decade ago now, is that the can 
>>> tabs are aluminum, therefore can be turned in for a few cents a 
>>> pound, and it can help to, say, defray the cost of dialysis for some.
>>> That's how it was 'splained to me.
>>> 
>>> Strive On!
>>> Everett
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Did the question below ever get answered? I have not ran across it 
>>>> and am interested in knowing myself.
>>>> Michelle
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Hi Denyece and all,
>>>> I am unfamiliar with the activity of collecting bottle caps or soda 
>>>> tabs for hospitals. Could someone explain this? How would the 
>>>> caps/tabs be used by the hospital?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much.
>>>> Chris
>>> 
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