<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4441">Good morning friends,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4442"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4443" dir="ltr">I had thought this issue of Braille verses technology was over, but since it's not let me ad a last thought, and that is this. Yes I love to listen to talking books, I am somewhat in the process of writing a fictional novel, well I was but now I'm working on something else. However when I wish to check some thing or I did before I damaged my book sense drag the file which I was writing to the book sense to play it back, and for the most part it worked well.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4498" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4496" dir="ltr">Now having said that, I was never an avid reader as a child, I just couldn't seem to concentrate on the pages, if I had learned Braille I might have been a better reader. No my friends as they say reading is fundamental and if you don't have the ability to read either braille or print you're screwed.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4658" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4659" dir="ltr">Technology is a great tool, and some may say gift, but if you can't read it's worthless. Always try to remember friends you need to crawl before you walk, and walk before you run. We can't become a society who learns how to push buttons and than when you lose electricity or if a battery dies you can't function. I'm certainly not the sharpest knife in the draw so to speak, but I am an accomplished reader, some day it will be braille I hope, but for now I may not be the best, but I can read large print, and I thank God for the ability to read.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_5014" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_5015" dir="ltr">Take care be safe</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_5016" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_5017" dir="ltr">Happy Thanksgiving to you all</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_5018" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_5019" dir="ltr">Rich<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1448358422961_4547"><span></span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:53 PM, Justin Salisbury via Ct-nfb <ct-nfb@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0230828183"><div>
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<div id="yiv0230828183AppleMailSignature">I am also much more a fan of the old-fashioned paper Braille when it is available. I also like have the electronic resources and refreshable braille displays have made Braille even more widely available. I was reading a book for
a class that I will begin in a few weeks on my BrailleSense U2 tonight. I would prefer to have it in paper form, but I don't. It's also nice to be able to carry hundreds of braille books in my pocket.</div>
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<div id="yiv0230828183AppleMailSignature">I'm still not entirely sure that I understand the crawling and walking metaphor, but I'm pretty sure we're on the same page. We both believe in braille.</div>
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<div id="yiv0230828183AppleMailSignature">Have a good night!</div>
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On Nov 23, 2015, at 3:08 PM, stanley torow via Ct-nfb <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>I mean one has to learn the basics whether it be braille or the sighted alphabet. sometimes if feels good to read on your own, talking devices are great, but I mess being able to read myself. reading by ones self, you can imagine the story. talking books
have saved me, but it takes all the imagination out of the story. for tech purposes, talking devises are great. still I guess I am old fashioned or out of date. one does not need to charge up braille.</div>
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Justin, I just wrote you but my computer is acting up. will reply tomorrow, when I hope it is acting better.
<div>lost all that I wrote you.</div>
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<div class="yiv0230828183MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">What do you mean when you say that one needs to crawl before one can walk?</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0230828183MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Take care,</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0230828183MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Justin Salisbury, NOMC</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0230828183MsoNormal">I am legally blind{ have some sight}. lost it at a senior age, but I think one needs both Braille & audio. I agree with you totally. young kids needs to learn Braille. one needs to crawl before one can walk.</div>
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deaf culture, I would have to say, as a person who learned Braille young, I would be bereft without it—and am, when it isn’t available! Apparently, as I’ve read in several sources, the areas of the brain’s visual cortex usually earmarked for sight are transferred,
in a blind person, to use of other senses that take over for sight—and I have become a highly-visual learner. Meaning, if you tell me something ten times, I finally get it; if you make me learn it by tactile reading, it may take 3-4 times. I’d guess, really,
that my learning style is mixed—I have a highly visual structure, but because Braille involves hand and arm movement, I probably have some kinesthetic aspects (moving helps learning—the same reason that, when I’m hearing a lecture or sermon, I can retain details
later if I’m working on a crochet piece, or taking notes on a slate, Brailler, notetaker or whatever). I am not sure what learning style I’d have developed if I hadn’t been trained in Braille—it might be one of those “chicken or egg” questions... I have gotten
better at audio learning over the years, but anything that needs close attention: music, recipes, appliance manuals, poetry, devotional materials—absolutely must come in tactually, or it doesn’t stick!! I think another area where it does impact identity, for
me, is in the fact that it contributes to my self-concept, and the conception in sighted hiring managers, that I am an able employee; I would not have had the many jobs I’ve had without Braille, and would not be nearly as capable without it.</span></div>
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