<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Jim & All,<br></div>I agree that whichever skill sets we learn in order to be mobile and independent, we need to practice and use them. I believe there is room for both. These signals are not only for us but they also can act as an alert to drivers as well. <br></div>Mary <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Jim McCollum via CT-NFB <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hello. </div><div id="m_-8297899477487178146AppleMailSignature">We have some audible traffic signals in the New Haven area, but not very many. I use them when I can, but when I can't, I rely on the mobility skills I learned in 1983. I'm not against audible signals, but it is essential, in my opinion, to know how to travel safely without them. </div><div id="m_-8297899477487178146AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Jim McCollum<div>Legislative Co-ordinator</div><span class=""><div>National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut</div></span><div><a href="mailto:j.mccollum64@comcast.net" target="_blank">j.mccollum64@comcast.net</a></div><div><a href="tel:860-581-0430" value="+18605810430" target="_blank">860-581-0430</a></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Nov 21, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Mary Silverberg via CT-NFB <<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>All,<br></div>As a partially sighted person, I rely on audible signals when crossing complex intersections. I do not view this as a crutch to dependancy. When the Town of West Hartford began the installation of these signals when replacing older equipment, several of us with a variety of disabilities went out with the Town engineers and the installers to optimize the volume with time of day and length of time to cross. I welcome these signals in every larger city in which I must navigate.<br><br></div>Mary Silverberg <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:07 PM, bob morrissey via CT-NFB <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-8297899477487178146m_6439541235649657025WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hey Justin,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Why do you feel so opposed to audible cross walks? Is it a dependency issue when the function is not working?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As a partially sighted person, I find an audible signal very helpful when crossing a busy intersection.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But, I'm open minded and willing to hear your thoughts.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Bob Morrissey<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:203-272-3278" value="+12032723278" target="_blank">203-272-3278</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> CT-NFB [mailto:<a href="mailto:ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.<wbr>org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Justin Salisbury via CT-NFB<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 4:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Connecticut Association of Blind Students<br><b>Cc:</b> Justin Salisbury; '<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ctabs] December Meeting of the Waterbury Area Chapter<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="m_-8297899477487178146h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Lucia,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks for sending this out! I’m so glad to see that our Waterbury Chapter is already speaking out against the custodialism that yields audible crosswalk signals. If we didn’t have the Waterbury Chapter working on this, Waterbury could become as bad as Honolulu, with audible crosswalk signals almost everywhere. It really gets in the way of teaching my students how to cross streets safely. I’m working on a research article for the orientation and mobility profession on exactly why the implementation of audible crosswalk signals are bad for blind people. It’s too bad that I haven’t published it already because it could be great support for the Chapter’s argument. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Good luck, and please let me know how I can help!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Justin<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Justin M. Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Opportunity Ambassador<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">National Federation of the Blind<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Email: <a href="mailto:President@Alumni.ECU.edu" target="_blank">President@Alumni.ECU.ed<wbr>u</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">LinkedIn: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">https://www.linkedin<wbr>.com/in/justin-salisbury</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.” <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">William Butler Yeats<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Ctabs [<a href="mailto:ctabs-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">mailto:ctabs-bounces@nfbnet.o<wbr>rg</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>llee--- via Ctabs<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 10:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> NFB of CT list serve <<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>>; CTABS List serv <<a href="mailto:ctabs@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">ctabs@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:llee@nfbct.org" target="_blank">llee@nfbct.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Ctabs] December Meeting of the Waterbury Area Chapter<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Help Us Build Our Future</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Attend Meetings of Our New Waterbury Chapter!</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">The National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut (NFB of CT) </span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">invites you to join our new <b>Waterbury Chapter. </b>We hold our meetings at the <b>Silas Bronson Library, 267 Grand Street,</b> on the Second Saturday of each month.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">On December 10th, our meeting will concern audible crosswalk signals in the City of Waterbury. Our State Representative Gerry Reyes, several Aldermen and a City Engineer will attend our meeting to discuss this issue. </span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Plan to attend this important meeting!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">To learn that you are greater than what most sighted people believe they see, meet us at the Silas Bronson Library on S<b>aturday December 10th from noon to 2:00 PM.</b> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">For further questions, please contact Josefina Martinez at <a href="tel:203-578-6471" value="+12035786471" target="_blank">203-578-6471</a>, or call our community outreach office at <a href="tel:860-289-1971" value="+18602891971" target="_blank">860-289-1971</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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