<div style="white-space:pre-wrap">I see your point of view Justin when teaching people to cross the street audible signals can be a hindrance. The majority of blind and low vision people are people in their 60s 70s and 80s. Those people often don't get mobility training. It is important to have audible crosswalks to allow those people to cross the street safely. Blind people are not the only ones that benefit from audible crosswalks. Children people with other disabilities, and People who are texting and walking or talking on the phone also benefit from Audibles crosswalks.<br><br><br>Gary Allen. <br><br>So it is not just the blind that benefit from audible crosswalks.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:00 PM Jim McCollum via CT-NFB <<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Hello. </div><div id="m_4230770421992469730AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">We have some audible traffic signals in the New Haven area, but not very many. I use them when I can, but when I can't, I rely on the mobility skills I learned in 1983. I'm not against audible signals, but it is essential, in my opinion, to know how to travel safely without them. </div><div id="m_4230770421992469730AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Jim McCollum<div class="gmail_msg">Legislative Co-ordinator</div></div></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_4230770421992469730AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">National Federation of the Blind of Connecticut</div></div></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_4230770421992469730AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><a href="mailto:j.mccollum64@comcast.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">j.mccollum64@comcast.net</a></div><div class="gmail_msg">860-581-0430</div><div class="gmail_msg">Sent from my iPhone</div></div></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">On Nov 21, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Mary Silverberg via CT-NFB <<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">All,<br class="gmail_msg"></div>As a partially sighted person, I rely on audible signals when crossing complex intersections. I do not view this as a crutch to dependancy. When the Town of West Hartford began the installation of these signals when replacing older equipment, several of us with a variety of disabilities went out with the Town engineers and the installers to optimize the volume with time of day and length of time to cross. I welcome these signals in every larger city in which I must navigate.<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div>Mary Silverberg <br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:07 PM, bob morrissey via CT-NFB <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" lang="EN-US" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_4230770421992469730m_6439541235649657025WordSection1 gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Hey Justin,<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Why do you feel so opposed to audible cross walks? Is it a dependency issue when the function is not working?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">As a partially sighted person, I find an audible signal very helpful when crossing a busy intersection.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">But, I'm open minded and willing to hear your thoughts.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Thanks.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Bob Morrissey<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><a href="tel:203-272-3278" value="+12032723278" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">203-272-3278</a><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg"> CT-NFB [mailto:<a href="mailto:ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>Justin Salisbury via CT-NFB<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 4:42 PM<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> Connecticut Association of Blind Students<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Cc:</b> Justin Salisbury; '<a href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>'<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b> Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ctabs] December Meeting of the Waterbury Area Chapter<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_4230770421992469730h5 gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg">Hi Lucia,<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg">Thanks for sending this out! I’m so glad to see that our Waterbury Chapter is already speaking out against the custodialism that yields audible crosswalk signals. If we didn’t have the Waterbury Chapter working on this, Waterbury could become as bad as Honolulu, with audible crosswalk signals almost everywhere. It really gets in the way of teaching my students how to cross streets safely. I’m working on a research article for the orientation and mobility profession on exactly why the implementation of audible crosswalk signals are bad for blind people. It’s too bad that I haven’t published it already because it could be great support for the Chapter’s argument. <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg">Good luck, and please let me know how I can help!<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg">Justin<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="gmail_msg">Justin M. 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