<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_3953">Good morning all,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_3659"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_3660">Eileen, I must confess I missed your original comment, but you should know that at one time or another we all experience demeaning situations, the thing is to just ignore it, and move on. Yes it's very sad that people may not accept us for ourselves, and sometimes they think we're not capable of doing something which we've done several times over, but the thing to try and remember is to show them the patients and understanding because although it's sometimes hurtful, I truly think people don't mean to be rude it's just that they don't understand</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_7105"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_7024" dir="ltr">For me it's different, because of Janet's disability and my Father in law's age and hearing disability I have developed a care taker roll, although Janet's vision is fortunately still good, her other disabilities are becoming more evident, and forcing me to take a different type roll.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_8019"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_8166">I'm telling you all this because we as a blind community must take the time to educate those around us. Not with arrogance or sarcasm, but with patients, Please understand I'm not saying we should be puppets for anyone but we should remember that, as frustrating it is for us to gain our acceptance & equality, it's just as difficult for the sighted folks to understand what it is we can actually do.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_9457"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_8872">It's a very delegate balance sometimes it's important to kind of swallow our pride, for me if or when I experience a humble or disappointing adventure, I have learned to just laugh it off, and move on. there are times however when I need to remind myself that I can do anything I choose to.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_10792"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_10793">I hope this helps a little, because I went down with Janet to weigh my Father in law I kind of lost my original train of thought, so forgive me if this turns in to my usual rambling or ranting.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_10884"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_10883">Be well all</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_10882"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_10881">Rich<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_9676">     <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_5700"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_6221"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_6220">Be well <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_6219"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_6295">Riich<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480243102234_3655"><span></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:30 PM, Esther Levegnale via CT-NFB <ct-nfb@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3820691735"><div><div>Hi, Eileen!</div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature">Yes, voice inflections say a lot as well, and it's true that it's not what they say, but how they say it.  I totally agree with  you.</div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature">Esther<br><br>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!</div><div><br>On Nov 26, 2016, at 1:54 PM, stanley torow via CT-NFB <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>thank you Esther. i was very helpful. some times it's not what they say but the tone of their voice. <br>Eileen<br><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br><br><br>On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Esther Levegnale via CT-NFB wrote:<br><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(136, 136, 136);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Hi, Eileen and Everyone!</div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature">Yes, it could be very demeaning when people treat you like a child.  My relatives are okay with me, but I have more trouble with strangers.  For example, one time my cousin and I were in Costco and we were sampling different foods.  There was one particular item that had a toothpick in it and the person handing out the food said to my cousin, "Tell her there's a toothpick in it," to which I replied, "You already did, mam."  I had a slight smile on my face when I said this, but it's very degrading when people speak to anyone this way.  Then when a friend tries to tell a waitress or waiter what I want, I interrupt her and tell them myself.  Then when the waiter goes away, I just tell them to please not speak for me, but I try to tell them in a nice tone.  They understand and apologize profusely and realize how wrong they were.  I, of course, accept their apology and move on.</div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature">There's a way to be assertive and be nice about it, but if they persist, then you have to be more firm with these people.  There's a saying which is "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar."</div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature">Anyway, that's my take on the situation and hope this helps you.</div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="yiv3820691735AppleMailSignature">Esther<br><br>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!</div><div><br>On Nov 26, 2016, at 10:37 AM, stanley torow via CT-NFB <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>thanks Gary.<br>does anyone else have this problem? and how do they handle it without sounding nasty.<br>Eileen<br><br><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br><br><br>On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Gary Allen via CT-NFB wrote:<br><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(136, 136, 136);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap;">You should no reason for that. </div><br><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:05 AM stanley torow via CT-NFB <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="yiv3820691735gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">i am glad everyone had a good holiday. we did, but i find that relatives that don't see me too often, treat me like a child, just because i don't have perfect vision. wish i could speak up. nest year i will.<br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">Eileen Torow<img alt=":-)" src="https://webtop.webmail.optimum.net/permCacheWrapper/images/emoticons/smile.gif"><div style="font-family:Verdana;" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 09:25 AM, Mary Silverberg via CT-NFB wrote:<br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(136,136,136);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">Gary & All,<br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"></div>Thanks for all the good Thanksgiving wishes. Joe & I also had a lovely day yesterday with family in New Jersey.  We are all very fortunate to have much to eat, & friends and family to share. <br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"></div>Mary<br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"></div><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_extra yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_quote yiv3820691735gmail_msg">On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Gary Allen via CT-NFB <span dir="ltr" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><blockquote class="yiv3820691735gmail_quote yiv3820691735gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap;" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">I spent the day with Rob Palaski<br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">and his family.  I had a great time, and the goid was really good also. </div><br class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_quote yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201h5 yiv3820691735gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv3820691735gmail_msg">On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:04 PM Nathanael T. Wales via CT-NFB <<a rel="nofollow" yma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Thank you both very much for the Thanksgiving wishes to all of us.  I too,<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
along with my wife and son, spent it with family and had a great time.<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Have a great evening,<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
Nathanael<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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From: CT-NFB [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org" class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">ct-nfb-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] On Behalf Of Esther<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
Levegnale via CT-NFB<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:05 PM<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] Happy Thanksgiving<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Hi, Gary!<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes.  Mine was great and I spent it with a<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
cousin and her family.  We had quite a crowd and wonderful food.  Hope yours<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
and everyone else's was good too.<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Take care.<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Esther<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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> On Nov 24, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Gary Allen via CT-NFB <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ct-nfb@nfbnet.org" class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">ct-nfb@nfbnet.org</a>><br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
wrote:<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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> Hello, Fellow Federationists:<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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> I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving. I hope everyone has the<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
opportunity to spend time with the ones that they care about the most.<br class="yiv3820691735m_-589321624634593201m_-2501925258780261539gmail_msg yiv3820691735gmail_msg">
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