[Diabetes-talk] Greetings.

Robert Shelton rshelton1 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 14 21:25:12 UTC 2009


Yep, this is good.  You're right, I've noticed that there is a wide
variation in how quickly different substances will be digested for sugar.
Juice seems to be about the best -- that's what I've always used, but there
*wasn't* any.  It wasn't just me freaking out and missing it; there simply
was none.  Unbelievable!  

The EMTs had little tubes of glucose paste, and that was quite impressive.
They said that it really didn't need to be swallowed in order to work.  That
looked like a pretty good deal to me as I think it would have been effective
even if I couldn't get Linda where she could swallow juice.  They left a
couple and I ordered some more from our mail order pharmacy.

>I would still inquire about the Glucogun.  
A couple of months ago, Linda spoke to her internist about this, and he had
reservations.  I just read the usage instructions, and there would be some
issues.  I could perform the necessary actions, but it might be problematic
for me to be sure I drew up the solution properly.  I suppose if you are a
blind diabetic who injects insulin every day, this would seem like child's
play.  Think I'll tag along on her next appointment and revisit the issue.
As long as we are here at home, I really think I can handle things by making
S*U*R*E I have a stash that I can use.  The issue really wasn't the insulin
reaction, but that our emergency process was broken.  Said another way, it
wasn't the quality of the ammunition; it was I had none.  That's fixable by
my just taking responsibility for having a plan and the means to execute it.

Been practicing taking my sugar with Linda's kit.  I'm just about 100% now,
and even tested her once yesterday.  I ordered the PV.

"Mathematics is the result of mysterious powers which no one understands,
and which the unconscious recognition of beauty must play an important part.
Out of an infinity of designs a mathematician chooses one pattern for
beauty's sake and pulls it down to earth."
--Marston Morse

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[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Jacobs Family
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:50 PM
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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Greetings.

Hey Robert:  First of all, I'd like to thank Dar!  You've got some great 
suggestions here.  I would still inquire about the Glucogun.  Sounds like 
you and Linda need all the amunition you can get.  Another thing I can 
suggest is that between you and Linda, you can figurer out what brings her 
out of the low most quickly.  As for candy, chocolate, doughnuts, and any 
other sweets, they actually work pretty slowly on the system because the 
body has to work longer and harder to digest them.  Then there's the issue 
of whatever else they have in them, like fats?  Oh Glory!  The best thing is

to go straight sugar without all the extras if ya can get by with it.  If 
she can drink, that works faster than anything.  One thing we found when I 
had all my reactions, was that there were two things that worked really 
quickly: whole milk, because of the lactose; and Gatorade.  If I'm not too 
low, I can do coke.  Glucose tabs are actually slower than anything for me, 
there again, because of digestion.  If it's just a slight low, I can do 
glucose.  If it's something heavy-duty, don't bother with the glucose 
nonsense.  Takes too long!  However, everyone is different.  For some, I 
guess the glucose is like magic.  When I get the bad ones, which isn't 
nearly so often anymore, I tend to ride for hours on a roller coaster.  It 
all depends on the person.  That's why I suggest you and Linda sit down and 
make a plan while she's still coherent  And, make it a point to be prepared.

My stash is always in two given places in the house.  And, of course, we 
have a stash in the van.  If I travel alone anywhere, a stash goes in my 
briefcase.  Not milk.  Gatorade.  If I cannot physically get to it, Bill 
knows where it is.  Also, we've talked and he knows. when I'll tend to 
bottom out, if and when I do.  When he knows I've had a particularly rough 
time, he calls me from work to check in on me.  For back-up, we've got 
specific people who can fill in if he can't.  We've got lists of those 
things programmed in both our cell phones, on the back wall of our kitchen 
where the sanitation calendar for trash pick-up and recycling is located. 
Everything is all right there together.  I haven't needed help like that for

a long time.  But it's all there just in case.  I even have all that info in

the computer as well as in the Braille Plus.  Anyone who knows me can find 
it anywhere.  Now that I don't have pregnancy to worry about, things aren't 
quite so extreme.  I think I'm in better sink with everything here now. 
Things used to happen much more quickly and dramatically when I was 
pregnant.  All this is far easier to catch now.  I guess I've learned over 
the years how I can control the diabetes, instead of it controling me, or 
simply making me fall flat on my...whatever...

You're doing great Robert!  Absolutely phantabulous!!  Besides, you've got 
lots of folks pullin' for ya here!

You and Linda have a great day!

Bern
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> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:26:40 -0500
> From: "Paul & Paula Jordan" <paujor at fuse.net>
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> Hi Robert:  I am a diabetic with a totally blind spouse, and I'm not sure
> what her reactions would be in an emergency.  I'm not sure how she'd feel
> about testing me, nor am I sure how I would feel either.  I know that when

> I
> test, I can tell how much blood I've got, but I'm not sure what she'd do.
> I have mentioned your situation, and I think she'll probably share some of
> her ideas later.
> Hang in, and I hope and trust we can get you some help soon.
>
> Paul
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Shelton
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:04 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was diagnosed
> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been 
> muddling
> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic partner.
> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've got
> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her blood
> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this. 
> If
> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> --Robert
>
> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and 
> you
> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>
> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
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> Dear Robert,
> Hi and welcome.  I have Diabetes and I am blind.  My husband is also 
> blind.
> What I have reminded him is if I ever do not make sense or if he can't 
> wake
> me up is to break up a glucose tablet in half and put each half between my
> cheek and teeth and let them dissolve.  If there is no effect in 2 minutes
> he is to call 911.
>
> By the time he checked my blood sugar (which would take about 5 or more
> minutes) I could be a lot worse.
> I would also tell you that it is up to your wife to keep track of her 
> blood
> sugar readings to give to her Doctor.
>
> Warmly, Joy Stigile
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> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:13 AM
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>
>> Oh the prodigy voice will work.
>> I just love mine.
>> Then you can send the doctor the averages because you can read them
>> yourself.
>> You can set the time date and much more.
>> This is one of the things we truly enjoy about the voice.
>> yes some can mess up but machines do wear out.
>> Mine I think is a year and a half old.
>> The time flies by and I forget.
>> Yes please ask any questions you wish,
>> I am pleased your wife is feeling better.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
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> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:55:37 -0600
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> Thanks.  This is definitely something I need to figure out.  We've been
> really lucky so far, but I know that I can take responsibility and handle
> this.  Linda is quite protective (for lack of a better word) in wanting to
> manage her condition independently.  We have always divided our
> responsibilities that way.  I've made the pay checks and she's managed the
> house, kids, and everything else.  Now we are coming to the time when I 
> need
> to step up.
>
> K C suggested I share what I know about how Linda manages her sugar, and
> also where I am in my own knowledge and skills.  Fair enough.
>
> Linda is insulin dependent and insulin resistant which means she needs to
> take a lot -- something north of 60 units per day.  Most of this is Lantus
> taken at night, the remainder Humalog taken during the day to correct. 
> She
> tests several times a day and has gotten fairly good at detecting ups and
> downs -- at least she can tell when it's time to test.  I don't know the
> brand of her glucometer, but I can use it to test her sugar; of course, I
> can't read it.  We're getting the PV -- I suspect that I'll get to 
> practice
> using it on myself, not a problem.
>
> All of Linda's serious low incidents have happened at night.  As I said, 
> she
> can head them off fine if she's awake.  I seem to know when she's going 
> low.
> I've awakened to Linda being in a cold sweat, and got her up and righted.
> Friday night was just a whole lot worse, maybe because I didn't wake up in
> time to catch her while she could still help me.   Once she goes past a
> certain point, she's completely incapable of helping me at all, but
> fortunately, she can swallow liquids.  I've always had emergency juice
> stashed away, but for some reason, it wasn't there Friday night.  I looked
> high and low, but the best I could do was some chocolate which doesn't 
> have
> much sugar.  I'm not sure she would have been able to drink anything under
> these circumstances anyway.
>
> The paramedics had squeeze tubes of glucose concentrate, and that worked
> great.  I've already ordered a supply from our mail order pharmacy.  I 
> think
> getting comfortable using the meter, and having a proven, certain 
> emergency
> sugar source, will go a long ways toward solving our problems.
>
> Poor baby, when she goes low, she's pretty obstinate.  Even when she 
> catches
> it herself, it's like she goes into slow motion.  Like I said, I just have
> to step up and take responsibility while respecting her wishes to be
> independent.  Not sure I'm making the best of sense here, and not sure I
> really provided the right information.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Robert
>
> "A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm,
> thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to
> others. It is a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with
> bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity."
> --Jimmy Carter
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul & Paula Jordan
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>
> Hi Robert:  I am a diabetic with a totally blind spouse, and I'm not sure
> what her reactions would be in an emergency.  I'm not sure how she'd feel
> about testing me, nor am I sure how I would feel either.  I know that when

> I
> test, I can tell how much blood I've got, but I'm not sure what she'd do.
> I have mentioned your situation, and I think she'll probably share some of
> her ideas later.
> Hang in, and I hope and trust we can get you some help soon.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Shelton
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:04 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>
> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was diagnosed
> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been 
> muddling
> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic partner.
> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've got
> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her blood
> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this. 
> If
> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> --Robert
>
> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and 
> you
> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>
> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>
>
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> You did just grate.
> Your wife needs to understand for you to help her, you need to do this
> while she is alert to explain how best to help her.
> Yes you are correct there is a time when you have to be in charge and
> she can't say much until she feels better.
> Yes you can do this.
> I know my husband is afraid to help me out, I wish he would while I am
> alert to know if he is doing it correctly.
> I ask from time to time, and he is afraid.
> I don't know if I should push or just know I am going to heaven.
> It is the two of us.
> We are thinking of getting the alert for the house, then he could get
> help that way as well.
> thanks for sharing.
>
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> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:21:20 -0500
> From: "The Jacobs Family" <bandbjacobs at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A whole bunch of comments on a whole bunch of
> stuff...
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> Yah Guys!!!
>
> Isn't this great?  Mike has a good come-back for absolutely everything!!!
> Love it!!!  It's absolutely phantabulous!!!
>
> Now, Robert, first for you!  This is Bern here!!  Everybody knows who I 
> am!!
> Welcome to the family Bro!!  I'm so sorry about your wife the other night.
> If there's anyone who can relate to things like this it's my wonderful,
> dedicated and loyal husband Bill!!  During my pregnancy, which 
> unfortunatly
> had to be terminated early because we lost our baby, There were times I 
> had
> reactions on a daily basis.  That was on good days.  There were real bad
> days, however, when I'd spend anywhere from seven to 12 hours at a crack 
> on
> an up-and-down roller coster.  And, to be truthful, most of it I'd never
> even remember.  Scared me spittless!!  I don't wish that kind of thing on
> anyone.  My husband never knew whether he'd come home to a nicely prepared
> lunch on the table, or a fumbling idiot crying on the floor, or maybe if I
> was lucky, I just might be sitting in a chair?  Oh Glory!!  Glad those 
> days
> are behind us.  One thing that was suggested to me, is that it might not 
> be
> a bad idea to also learn about a Glucogun.  I can't tell you everything
> there is to know.  But I am aware that on one of the occasions I was run
> into the hospital via ambulance, my husband witnessed it all firsthand 
> from
> the perimedics.  When I finally came to at the hospital, he kept saying to
> me, "Man!  I've never seen such a big needle in all my life!  You 
> should've
> seen that thing they shot into your arm!!  I couldn't believe that 
> thing!!"
> I don't know how extreme her reactions are.  But that may be one thing to
> think about.  Also, I, as a totally blind diabetic, recommend the "Prodigy
> Voice" as well.  Not just because I work for them on a consulting basis.
> But, because, so far, that's the only meter I've found completely and
> totally accessible out there.  I like it's size, ease, and you can't get
> much faster than a reading in seven seconds?  I'm so happy with mine!  One
> thing I recommend you do when you order the machine is, to order extra
> control solution.  It's one way of practicing on her fingers without 
> making
> a pin cushion out of the poor dear lady!  You can practice and practice 
> and
> the strip will draw up the solution as it would actual blood.  That's what
> it's made to do.  It's just as sure as polking for blood; a hole lot less
> painful!!  That's what I've done with my trade shows for them.  Works like

> a
> charm!!  If you need any help at all, don't hesitate to email me, at least
> offlist, and I'll answer questions the best I can for you.  If you email 
> me
> for my phone number, we can call back and forth and do some of this by 
> phone
> if you wish.  I usually do phone calls during the day from 7:30 am--3:30 
> pm
> and again from eight pm--ten pm Eastern Standard time.
>
> And, last but not least, about that article!  That's phantabulous as well!
> Gotta pick up a bunch of those cards.  I might even suggest for "Prodigy
> Diabetes Care" to distribute them as well.
>
> Take care of yourselves gang!!  Bout time for me to crash!!
>
> Bern
>
>
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>>   1. Fw: great article (Mike Freeman)
>>   2. Re: Fw: great article (d m gina)
>>   3. Re: Fw: great article (Mike Freeman)
>>   4. Re: Fw: great article (d m gina)
>>   5. Re: Thanks Guys!  I really needed this! (d m gina)
>>   6. Re: False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice? (Mike Freeman)
>>   7. Re: False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice? (Mike Freeman)
>>   8. New Member Introduction (Robert Shelton)
>>   9. Re: New Member Introduction (d m gina)
>>  10. Re: New Member Introduction (K C)
>>  11. Re: New Member Introduction (Robert Shelton)
>>  12. Re: New Member Introduction (K C)
>>  13. Re: New Member Introduction (cheryl echevarria)
>>  14. Re: New Member Introduction (d m gina)
>>  15. Re: False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice? (eileen SCRIVANI)
>>  16. Re: False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice? (d m gina)
>>  17. Re: False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice? (Mike Freeman)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:01:02 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: great article
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Patricia LaFrance-Wolf
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:32 AM
>> Subject: [acb-diabetics] great article
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Bill Polonsky, PhD, CDE, knows diabetes. Among other things, he has
>> served as Chairman of the National Certification Board for Diabetes
>> Educators, as
>>
>> a Senior Psychologist at the Joslin Diabetes Center in Boston, and as an
>> Instructor in Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He is the founder and
>> president
>>
>> of the Behavioral Diabetes Institute (BDI) in San Diego, California. He 
>> is
>> also on Diabetes Health's Advisory Board.
>>
>>
>>
>> A few years ago, Dr. Polonsky addressed the frustration people with
>> diabetes feel when it comes to other people's reactions to their health.
>> He developed
>>
>> a very popular Diabetes Etiquette Card that helps express these feelings.
>> It's not necessarily mean to be handed to another person, but more an
>> acknowledgment
>>
>> that we have all felt this way at one time or another and that it's all
>> okay. Dr. Polonsky says that it might be time for you to try talking to
>> the family
>>
>> members who "only open their mouth to change feet" when it comes to your
>> diabetes. They usually mean well but they probably just don't understand
>> how it
>>
>> is for you and how they can help you. You can let them gently and with
>> empathy know what's it's like for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are Dr. Polonsky's 10 etiquette tips for people without diabetes,
>> written from the perspective of someone with diabetes:
>>
>>
>>
>> list of 10 items
>>
>> . 1 - DON'T offer unsolicited advice about my eating or other aspects of
>> diabetes. You may mean well, but giving advice about someone's personal
>> habits,
>>
>> especially when it is not requested, isn't very nice. Besides, many of 
>> the
>> popularly held beliefs about diabetes ("you should just stop eating
>> sugar")
>>
>> are out of date or just plain wrong.
>>
>> . 2 - DO realize and appreciate that diabetes is hard work. Diabetes
>> management is a full-time job that I didn't apply for, didn't want, and
>> can't quit.
>>
>> It involves thinking about what, when, and how much I eat, while also
>> factoring in
>>
>> exercise
>>
>> , medication, stress,
>>
>> blood sugar
>>
>> monitoring, and so much more - each and every day.
>>
>> . 3 - DON'T tell me horror stories about your grandmother or other people
>> with diabetes you have heard about. Diabetes is scary enough, and stories
>> like
>>
>> these are not reassuring! Besides, we now know that with good management,
>> odds are good you can live a long, healthy, and happy life with diabetes.
>>
>> . 4 - DO offer to join me in making healthy lifestyle changes. Not having
>> to be alone with efforts to change, like starting an exercise program, is
>> one
>>
>> of the most powerful ways that you can be helpful. After all, healthy
>> lifestyle changes can benefit everyone!
>>
>> . 5 - DON'T look so horrified when I check my blood sugars or give myself
>> an injection. It is not a lot of fun for me either. Checking blood sugars
>> and
>>
>> taking medications are things I must do to manage diabetes well. If I 
>> have
>> to hide while I do so, it makes it much harder for me.
>>
>> . 6 - DO ask how you might be helpful. If you want to be supportive, 
>> there
>> may be lots of little things I would probably appreciate your help with.
>> However,
>>
>> what I really need may be very different than what you think I need, so
>> please ask first.
>>
>> . 7 - DON'T offer thoughtless reassurances. When you first learn about my
>> diabetes, you may want to reassure me by saying things like, "Hey, it
>> could be
>>
>> worse; you could have cancer!" This won't make me feel better. And the
>> implicit message seems to be that diabetes is no big deal. However,
>> diabetes (like
>>
>> cancer) IS a big deal.
>>
>> . 8 - DO be supportive of my efforts for self-care. Help me set up an
>> environment for success by supporting healthy food choices. Please honor
>> my decision
>>
>> to decline a particular food, even when you really want me to try it. You
>> are most helpful when you are not being a source of unnecessary
>> temptation.
>>
>> . 9 - DON'T peek at or comment on my blood glucose numbers without asking
>> me first. These numbers are private unless I choose to share them. It is
>> normal
>>
>> to have numbers that are sometimes too low or too high. Your unsolicited
>> comments about these numbers can add to the disappointment, frustration,
>> and anger
>>
>> I already feel.
>>
>> . 10 - DO offer your love and encouragement. As I work hard to manage
>> diabetes successfully, sometimes just knowing that you care can be very
>> helpful and
>>
>> motivating.
>>
>> list end
>>
>>
>>
>> The Diabetes Etiquette Card is free. Here's three ways that you can get a
>> copy of the card:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Download a
>>
>> PDF copy
>>
>> from the Diabetes Behavioral Institute's website.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. Get a hard copy of the accordion-style card at no cost by contacting
>> your local
>>
>> Accu-Chek
>>
>> representative. Roche Diabetes Care has licensed and printed the card and
>> distributes them to healthcare professionals and to people with diabetes
>> and
>>
>> their loved ones.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Order it directly from BDI. To cover costs, they charge $1.00 per card
>> plus shipping, and they only sell and ship orders of 50 cards or more.
>> You can
>>
>> call them at 858-336-8693 or email them at
>>
>> info at behavioraldiabetes.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Read Rachel Garlinghouse's recent article, "
>>
>> Dear Medical Professional
>>
>> " on how frustrating it can be for a person with diabetes to deal with
>> their doctor.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please post your comment below (be civil, now!) on other things you wish
>> other people would understand about you and your diabetes.
>>
>>
>>
>> * * *
>>
>>
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> Behavioral Diabetes Institute
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:06:58 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: great article
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20091212190658.32264.69740 at web3.serotek.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> Mike,
>> I will bring up something here that maybe you can help me with.
>> I offend my inlaws when I don't eat there.
>> I eat at home and go visiting for Christmas.
>> Because I only see them once a year, I feel out of place trying to take
>> my shot.
>> so if I eat here, and do all of what I need to do then I feel safe.
>> Now I can go out to eat do what I need to do and I am fine.
>> I might take a salad and a small peace of meat but since I ate at home,
>> I just do that to be kind.
>> I would rather leave well enough alone.
>> Even when I share I had my dinner or sandwich just before I left home,
>> so I could take my shot.
>> they have around fifteen to twenty persons at their home, this is why I
>> don't feel comfortable.
>> Now if you have an idea you might be able to help me out.
>> Thanks,
>> Like that message.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> skype
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:21:46 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: great article
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <51341AAB89A540F0B437EE59E1DC756A at owner1e06aeb63>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Dar:
>>
>> Eating at home before going to a glutonous feast is a time-tested
>> technique
>> for dealing with such situations. So I wouldn't worry.
>>
>> But I don't understand your reluctance to give yourself a shot at the
>> party.
>> I mean, it's not like you and Jim are having sex on the dining room table
>> or
>> something! Would you feel uncomfortable taking a pill when a guest at
>> someone's home? I suspect not. Then why feel uncomfortable about giving
>> yourself a shot? After all, it's the only way at present to take insulin.
>> So
>> shoot away and offer to give anyone a shot that complains about it! Yee
>> haw!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: great article
>>
>>
>>> Mike,
>>> I will bring up something here that maybe you can help me with.
>>> I offend my inlaws when I don't eat there.
>>> I eat at home and go visiting for Christmas.
>>> Because I only see them once a year, I feel out of place trying to take
>>> my
>>> shot.
>>> so if I eat here, and do all of what I need to do then I feel safe.
>>> Now I can go out to eat do what I need to do and I am fine.
>>> I might take a salad and a small peace of meat but since I ate at home, 
>>> I
>>> just do that to be kind.
>>> I would rather leave well enough alone.
>>> Even when I share I had my dinner or sandwich just before I left home, 
>>> so
>>> I could take my shot.
>>> they have around fifteen to twenty persons at their home, this is why I
>>> don't feel comfortable.
>>> Now if you have an idea you might be able to help me out.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Like that message.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> --Dar
>>> skype
>>> dmgina23
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>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:13:51 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: great article
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20091212211351.7690.6725 at web3.serotek.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> Now I like the second part.
>> Give them a shot.
>> What a thrill smile.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:15:21 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Thanks Guys!  I really needed this!
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20091212211521.7690.52721 at web3.serotek.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> My gosh, I didn't realize your daughter who is nine now is a diabetic?
>> I am so sorry.
>>
>> -- 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:01:00 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <6E32B8AEAF0E4C44A5B6B70E00D7CA19 at owner1e06aeb63>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Unfortunately, there isn't a meter on the market (protests to the 
>> contrary
>> notwithstanding) that reliably differentiates between low blood glucose
>> and
>> just plain too little blood. When in doubt, test again!
>>
>> That said, insurance companies often pay for a replacement meter after 
>> six
>> months or a year if asked because although some meters take a lickin' and
>> keep on tickin', others do wear out.
>>
>> I'm sure Kellly has assisted you by now. Just getting my laptop back in
>> order.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul & Paula Jordan" <paujor at fuse.net>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>
>>
>>> Ileen, have you run tests on your strips to see if they are the right
>>> ones?
>>> What about the battery status?
>>> I know that I can get some real low readings with my morning fasting
>>> test,
>>> but, based on the way I feel, I really think it's wrong.
>>> I have had both the prodigy voice, and the audocode, but they neither 
>>> one
>>> says when the blood sample is insufficient.  Sometimes, it does say that
>>> it's low, and I generally consider it an insufficient reading.
>>> At this point, I've been at this for about 16 months, so I'm not a 
>>> master
>>> yet!!!  Hope this helps, and know that I wish you the very best.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:18 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>>
>>> Hi folks:
>>>
>>> Have any of you been getting either low or good range readings on the
>>> Prodigy Voice, but contrary results from the lab/doctor's office?  I
>>> suspect
>>> that my Prodigy Voice is not functioning properly.  I had to go to my
>>> doctor
>>> today for a procedure and prior to leaving the house I did a test on the
>>> voice that came back 103 -- a very good number.  Prior to the procedure
>>> my
>>> BG was tested and I was told the result was 236!
>>>
>>> Additionally, the last two A1C readings I got back from the doctor were
>>> higher than they have ever been for me -- over 7!  I'm very upset about
>>> this.  I test regularly, know how to count my carbs and am on a sliding
>>> scale insulin regiment ... So I ask myself what's going on here?? I
>>> suspect
>>> the meter is giving faulty readings.  Sometimes I know the numbers are
>>> off,
>>> based on the way I feel and re-test and there can be a pretty big
>>> difference.  Still the numbers that usually come back are not so
>>> outrageous
>>> that my A1C's should be so horrible.
>>>
>>> Has anyone heard of other meters coming on the market?  Are there any 
>>> out
>>> there that will give an error message when/if insufficient blood drops
>>> are
>>> placed on the test strip?  I'm very disgusted -- originally, I was 
>>> liking
>>> the meter because of its simplicity, but it appears to me that it is not
>>> working properly.
>>>
>>> Eileen
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>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:06:57 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <1A035D21B4E34B01890759898B673771 at owner1e06aeb63>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Eileen:
>>
>> You are right to be miffed; your meter should do better than that. In
>> fact,
>> most Prodigy Voice meters do quite well.
>>
>> However, as I said in another post, there ain't a meter on the market 
>> that
>> reliably differentiates between insufficient blood on the sample and low
>> blood glucose even though some manufacturers *say* their meters won't 
>> give
>> false readings if there is insufficient blood on the strip. Some
>> manufacturers are working on meters wherein the blood must complete a
>> circuit (apparently only doable if there is enough blood on the strip) 
>> but
>> IMO it hasn't happened yet.
>>
>> I'd bet your problem has been solved by now!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:17 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>
>>
>>> Hi folks:
>>>
>>> Have any of you been getting either low or good range readings on the
>>> Prodigy Voice, but contrary results from the lab/doctor's office?  I
>>> suspect that my Prodigy Voice is not functioning properly.  I had to go
>>> to
>>> my doctor today for a procedure and prior to leaving the house I did a
>>> test on the voice that came back 103 -- a very good number.  Prior to 
>>> the
>>> procedure my BG was tested and I was told the result was 236!
>>>
>>> Additionally, the last two A1C readings I got back from the doctor were
>>> higher than they have ever been for me -- over 7!  I'm very upset about
>>> this.  I test regularly, know how to count my carbs and am on a sliding
>>> scale insulin regiment ... So I ask myself what's going on here?? I
>>> suspect the meter is giving faulty readings.  Sometimes I know the
>>> numbers
>>> are off, based on the way I feel and re-test and there can be a pretty
>>> big
>>> difference.  Still the numbers that usually come back are not so
>>> outrageous that my A1C's should be so horrible.
>>>
>>> Has anyone heard of other meters coming on the market?  Are there any 
>>> out
>>> there that will give an error message when/if insufficient blood drops
>>> are
>>> placed on the test strip?  I'm very disgusted -- originally, I was 
>>> liking
>>> the meter because of its simplicity, but it appears to me that it is not
>>> working properly.
>>>
>>> Eileen
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:03:48 -0600
>> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <000101ca7ba0$e5570670$b0051350$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was 
>> diagnosed
>> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been
>> muddling
>> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
>> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
>> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
>> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic 
>> partner.
>> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've got
>> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her 
>> blood
>> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this.
>> If
>> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> --Robert
>>
>> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and
>> you
>> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>>
>> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:18:44 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20091213031844.22479.9110 at web3.serotek.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> I hope she is much better today.
>> I am sorry this happened.
>> the only thing I would suggest is to get a talking meter, then you can
>> take her sugars and know where they are standing at the time of stress.
>> Since you are not a diabetic yourself, I don't know if you would have
>> to pay for the machine on your own.
>> This is something someone else would have to share.
>> Welcome.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> skype
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:52:57 -0500
>> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP48211FB8F436CFC46760C3AA8A0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hello, Robert.  My name is Kijuana, and I'm a newly diagnosed Diabetic, 
>> as
>> well as being totally blind.  First I'd like to say I feel for you in
>> terms
>> of being scared last night during you're wife's emergency.
>>
>> The first thing I'd suggest you do is to put yourself in the place of
>> someone who is blind, and is Diabetic.  Get as much education as possible
>> from those on the list who manage this disease just as your wife must.
>> Believe me, there is no method of management blind people can't use 
>> today.
>>
>> There is a meter that speaks blood sugar readings called the Prodigy
>> Voice.
>> It can be bought from Advance Diabetic solutions.  The number will 
>> follow.
>> You can be taught to take her blood sugar, place the blood on the strip,
>> and
>> get an accurate reading just as Linda does when she's testing normally.
>>
>> The second suggestion I have is to speak with others on this list who're
>> Insulin dependent about various techniques on how to inject someone, as
>> well
>> as quick methods for raising blood sugars.  It is important to take this
>> on
>> as though you are the Diabetic as you'll end up using these tools, most
>> likely, without sighted help.
>>
>> You have come to the right list for both help, and support.  I'm glad 
>> that
>> you've sent out this request for help.
>>
>> The number for Advanced Diabetic Solutions is:  Advanced Diabetic
>> Solutions
>> is 888-377-6382.  I wish you luck, and no more heart pounding nights like
>> last one.
>> Take care of you.. --- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:03 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>>
>>> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was
>>> diagnosed
>>> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been
>>> muddling
>>> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
>>> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
>>> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
>>> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic
>>> partner.
>>> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've 
>>> got
>>> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her
>>> blood
>>> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this.
>>> If
>>> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Robert
>>>
>>> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and
>>> you
>>> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>>>
>>> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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il.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:58:16 -0600
>> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <000001ca7bb9$44be2a40$ce3a7ec0$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Thanks.  It dawned on me last night that I really do need to learn these
>> techniques just as surely as if I were the diabetic.  Doesn't say much 
>> for
>> my level of awareness that it took me 10 years and a visit from EMS to
>> figure it out.  Linda is OK this evening.  I turned up the prodigy device
>> in
>> some web searching, but was not sure how well it would work.
>>
>> I feel like I really did come to the right place.  Thanks again.
>>
>> --Robert
>>
>> "This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in
>> it."
>> --Psalm 118:24
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of K C
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:53 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>> Hello, Robert.  My name is Kijuana, and I'm a newly diagnosed Diabetic, 
>> as
>> well as being totally blind.  First I'd like to say I feel for you in
>> terms
>> of being scared last night during you're wife's emergency.
>>
>> The first thing I'd suggest you do is to put yourself in the place of
>> someone who is blind, and is Diabetic.  Get as much education as possible
>> from those on the list who manage this disease just as your wife must.
>> Believe me, there is no method of management blind people can't use 
>> today.
>>
>> There is a meter that speaks blood sugar readings called the Prodigy
>> Voice.
>> It can be bought from Advance Diabetic solutions.  The number will 
>> follow.
>> You can be taught to take her blood sugar, place the blood on the strip,
>> and
>>
>> get an accurate reading just as Linda does when she's testing normally.
>>
>> The second suggestion I have is to speak with others on this list who're
>> Insulin dependent about various techniques on how to inject someone, as
>> well
>>
>> as quick methods for raising blood sugars.  It is important to take this
>> on
>> as though you are the Diabetic as you'll end up using these tools, most
>> likely, without sighted help.
>>
>> You have come to the right list for both help, and support.  I'm glad 
>> that
>> you've sent out this request for help.
>>
>> The number for Advanced Diabetic Solutions is:  Advanced Diabetic
>> Solutions
>> is 888-377-6382.  I wish you luck, and no more heart pounding nights like
>> last one.
>> Take care of you.. --- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:03 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>>
>>> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was
>>> diagnosed
>>> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been
>>> muddling
>>> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
>>> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
>>> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
>>> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic
>>> partner.
>>> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've 
>>> got
>>> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her
>>> blood
>>> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this.
>>> If
>>> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Robert
>>>
>>> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and
>>> you
>>> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>>>
>>> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>
>>
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>> il.com
>>>
>>
>>
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>> mail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:57:46 -0500
>> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP31264289D06BD05323B3A8AA8A0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> You're welcome!  What you must do now is to tell people on the list a
>> little
>> bit about what your wife has to do in order to control, and monitor her
>> blood sugars, both on a daily bases, and in an emergency.  Then you'll
>> probably get many, many replies from other's who're dealing with the same
>> level of anger, anxiety, and simply how they take accurate care of
>> themselves, and sighted partners.
>>
>> :)  K C
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>>
>>> Thanks.  It dawned on me last night that I really do need to learn these
>>> techniques just as surely as if I were the diabetic.  Doesn't say much
>>> for
>>> my level of awareness that it took me 10 years and a visit from EMS to
>>> figure it out.  Linda is OK this evening.  I turned up the prodigy 
>>> device
>>> in
>>> some web searching, but was not sure how well it would work.
>>>
>>> I feel like I really did come to the right place.  Thanks again.
>>>
>>> --Robert
>>>
>>> "This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad 
>>> in
>>> it."
>>> --Psalm 118:24
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of K C
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:53 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>>
>>> Hello, Robert.  My name is Kijuana, and I'm a newly diagnosed Diabetic,
>>> as
>>> well as being totally blind.  First I'd like to say I feel for you in
>>> terms
>>> of being scared last night during you're wife's emergency.
>>>
>>> The first thing I'd suggest you do is to put yourself in the place of
>>> someone who is blind, and is Diabetic.  Get as much education as 
>>> possible
>>> from those on the list who manage this disease just as your wife must.
>>> Believe me, there is no method of management blind people can't use
>>> today.
>>>
>>> There is a meter that speaks blood sugar readings called the Prodigy
>>> Voice.
>>> It can be bought from Advance Diabetic solutions.  The number will
>>> follow.
>>> You can be taught to take her blood sugar, place the blood on the strip,
>>> and
>>>
>>> get an accurate reading just as Linda does when she's testing normally.
>>>
>>> The second suggestion I have is to speak with others on this list who're
>>> Insulin dependent about various techniques on how to inject someone, as
>>> well
>>>
>>> as quick methods for raising blood sugars.  It is important to take this
>>> on
>>> as though you are the Diabetic as you'll end up using these tools, most
>>> likely, without sighted help.
>>>
>>> You have come to the right list for both help, and support.  I'm glad
>>> that
>>> you've sent out this request for help.
>>>
>>> The number for Advanced Diabetic Solutions is:  Advanced Diabetic
>>> Solutions
>>> is 888-377-6382.  I wish you luck, and no more heart pounding nights 
>>> like
>>> last one.
>>> Take care of you.. --- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:03 PM
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was
>>>> diagnosed
>>>> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been
>>>> muddling
>>>> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
>>>> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
>>>> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
>>>> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic
>>>> partner.
>>>> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've
>>>> got
>>>> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her
>>>> blood
>>>> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this.
>>>> If
>>>> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Robert
>>>>
>>>> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, 
>>>> and
>>>> you
>>>> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>>>>
>>>> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>>
>>>
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>>> il.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:44:54 -0500
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <BAY110-DS4F27436A0AF7FDC1594B8A18A0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> do you know how to take her blood sugar see if you can get the prodigy
>> voice and that way you can hear her blood sugar, the rest is ask her her
>> blood sugars make sure she is keep track some where, if she can do this 
>> on
>> the computer or somewhere you can keep track as well.
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria
>> http://www.echevarriatravel.com<http://www.echevarriatravel.com/>
>>
reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
>> 1-866-580-5574
>> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>> CST #1018299-10
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Robert Shelton<mailto:rshelton1 at gmail.com>
>>  To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>  Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:03 PM
>>  Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>>
>>  Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was
>> diagnosed
>>  almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been
>> muddling
>>  through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
>>  years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
>>  different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
>>  person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic
>> partner.
>>  I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've 
>> got
>>  emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her
>> blood
>>  sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this.
>> If
>>  anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>  --Robert
>>
>>  "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and
>> you
>>  spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>>
>>  --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>>
>>
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:13:00 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20091213151300.10766.9401 at web2.serotek.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> Oh the prodigy voice will work.
>> I just love mine.
>> Then you can send the doctor the averages because you can read them
>> yourself.
>> You can set the time date and much more.
>> This is one of the things we truly enjoy about the voice.
>> yes some can mess up but machines do wear out.
>> Mine I think is a year and a half old.
>> The time flies by and I forget.
>> Yes please ask any questions you wish,
>> I am pleased your wife is feeling better.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> skype
>> dmgina23
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:09:52 -0500
>> From: "eileen SCRIVANI" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <F93CC87A85994682BD10682A496AAC68 at eileenPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Mike:
>>
>> A bit of a disagreement here.  Prior to getting the P.V., my husband
>> bought
>> a small meter for me that was promoted on T.V. as being good for blind
>> diabetics.  While it did have some speech functionality on it, it was not
>> totally accessible.  With that said, one very nice feature on the
>> Companion
>> was that if I did not get a sufficient sample on it, it was stop the test
>> a
>> vocalize an error message stating that I did not have a good enough blood
>> sample on the strip.  My point is that it can be done and in fact has
>> been.
>> It would be a nice feature if it could be made on the Voice.  Often, with
>> the previous meter, I'd run four tests in a row ... way to many and again
>> having a bad meter makes an unpleasant task even more distasteful.
>>
>> My computer had been out of service for a few days now, but Kelly has
>> contacted me in the interim and I already have a replacement meter and am
>> seeing higher readings on the new meter and am able to treat accordingly.
>> Hopefully, this will get my levels back in good shape.
>>
>> Thanks to Kelly and Alahandra!
>>
>> Talk soon -- the computer is still not totally up to par yet, but we're
>> working on getting it back to pre-hard drive crash.
>> Eileen
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>
>>
>>> Eileen:
>>>
>>> You are right to be miffed; your meter should do better than that. In
>>> fact, most Prodigy Voice meters do quite well.
>>>
>>> However, as I said in another post, there ain't a meter on the market
>>> that
>>> reliably differentiates between insufficient blood on the sample and low
>>> blood glucose even though some manufacturers *say* their meters won't
>>> give
>>> false readings if there is insufficient blood on the strip. Some
>>> manufacturers are working on meters wherein the blood must complete a
>>> circuit (apparently only doable if there is enough blood on the strip)
>>> but
>>> IMO it hasn't happened yet.
>>>
>>> I'd bet your problem has been solved by now!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:17 PM
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi folks:
>>>>
>>>> Have any of you been getting either low or good range readings on the
>>>> Prodigy Voice, but contrary results from the lab/doctor's office?  I
>>>> suspect that my Prodigy Voice is not functioning properly.  I had to go
>>>> to my doctor today for a procedure and prior to leaving the house I did
>>>> a
>>>> test on the voice that came back 103 -- a very good number.  Prior to
>>>> the
>>>> procedure my BG was tested and I was told the result was 236!
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, the last two A1C readings I got back from the doctor were
>>>> higher than they have ever been for me -- over 7!  I'm very upset about
>>>> this.  I test regularly, know how to count my carbs and am on a sliding
>>>> scale insulin regiment ... So I ask myself what's going on here?? I
>>>> suspect the meter is giving faulty readings.  Sometimes I know the
>>>> numbers are off, based on the way I feel and re-test and there can be a
>>>> pretty big difference.  Still the numbers that usually come back are 
>>>> not
>>>> so outrageous that my A1C's should be so horrible.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone heard of other meters coming on the market?  Are there any
>>>> out
>>>> there that will give an error message when/if insufficient blood drops
>>>> are placed on the test strip?  I'm very disgusted -- originally, I was
>>>> liking the meter because of its simplicity, but it appears to me that 
>>>> it
>>>> is not working properly.
>>>>
>>>> Eileen
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:28:24 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20091213172824.18339.43980 at web2.serotek.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> Oh I am so pleased you can know where your sugars are again.
>> That had to have been scarey.
>> Wishing you the best.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> skype
>> dmgina23
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
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>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:55:07 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <64140B58B2F5499889CB2295E67FDE64 at owner1e06aeb63>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Eileen:
>>
>> I just had to have my computer reloaded also; an uninstall of a very old
>> version of JAWS messed up the registry somehow and the machine wouldn't
>> come
>> all the way up; it just rebooted, came partway up and rebooted again. But
>> all is well again now.
>>
>> I know that Tom Ley and I discussed with DDI engineers the possibility of
>> putting in circuitry to reliably detect low blood. I'd like to see the
>> engineering specs on the Companion to see if its manufacturers did things
>> the way the DDI engineers proposed to do.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "eileen SCRIVANI" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>
>>
>>> Mike:
>>>
>>> A bit of a disagreement here.  Prior to getting the P.V., my husband
>>> bought a small meter for me that was promoted on T.V. as being good for
>>> blind diabetics.  While it did have some speech functionality on it, it
>>> was not totally accessible.  With that said, one very nice feature on 
>>> the
>>> Companion was that if I did not get a sufficient sample on it, it was
>>> stop
>>> the test a vocalize an error message stating that I did not have a good
>>> enough blood sample on the strip.  My point is that it can be done and 
>>> in
>>> fact has been. It would be a nice feature if it could be made on the
>>> Voice.  Often, with the previous meter, I'd run four tests in a row ...
>>> way to many and again having a bad meter makes an unpleasant task even
>>> more distasteful.
>>>
>>> My computer had been out of service for a few days now, but Kelly has
>>> contacted me in the interim and I already have a replacement meter and 
>>> am
>>> seeing higher readings on the new meter and am able to treat 
>>> accordingly.
>>> Hopefully, this will get my levels back in good shape.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Kelly and Alahandra!
>>>
>>> Talk soon -- the computer is still not totally up to par yet, but we're
>>> working on getting it back to pre-hard drive crash.
>>> Eileen
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eileen:
>>>>
>>>> You are right to be miffed; your meter should do better than that. In
>>>> fact, most Prodigy Voice meters do quite well.
>>>>
>>>> However, as I said in another post, there ain't a meter on the market
>>>> that reliably differentiates between insufficient blood on the sample
>>>> and
>>>> low blood glucose even though some manufacturers *say* their meters
>>>> won't
>>>> give false readings if there is insufficient blood on the strip. Some
>>>> manufacturers are working on meters wherein the blood must complete a
>>>> circuit (apparently only doable if there is enough blood on the strip)
>>>> but IMO it hasn't happened yet.
>>>>
>>>> I'd bet your problem has been solved by now!
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "Diabetes Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:17 PM
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] False Low/Good Reading on Prodigy Voice?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks:
>>>>>
>>>>> Have any of you been getting either low or good range readings on the
>>>>> Prodigy Voice, but contrary results from the lab/doctor's office?  I
>>>>> suspect that my Prodigy Voice is not functioning properly.  I had to 
>>>>> go
>>>>> to my doctor today for a procedure and prior to leaving the house I 
>>>>> did
>>>>> a test on the voice that came back 103 -- a very good number.  Prior 
>>>>> to
>>>>> the procedure my BG was tested and I was told the result was 236!
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, the last two A1C readings I got back from the doctor 
>>>>> were
>>>>> higher than they have ever been for me -- over 7!  I'm very upset 
>>>>> about
>>>>> this.  I test regularly, know how to count my carbs and am on a 
>>>>> sliding
>>>>> scale insulin regiment ... So I ask myself what's going on here?? I
>>>>> suspect the meter is giving faulty readings.  Sometimes I know the
>>>>> numbers are off, based on the way I feel and re-test and there can be 
>>>>> a
>>>>> pretty big difference.  Still the numbers that usually come back are
>>>>> not
>>>>> so outrageous that my A1C's should be so horrible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone heard of other meters coming on the market?  Are there any
>>>>> out there that will give an error message when/if insufficient blood
>>>>> drops are placed on the test strip?  I'm very disgusted -- originally,
>>>>> I
>>>>> was liking the meter because of its simplicity, but it appears to me
>>>>> that it is not working properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eileen
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>>>
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.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:12:13 -0600
> From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> This is a fantastic message filled with love, respect, and the tension 
> there
> sometimes is between the two.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
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>
>> Thanks.  This is definitely something I need to figure out.  We've been
>> really lucky so far, but I know that I can take responsibility and handle
>> this.  Linda is quite protective (for lack of a better word) in wanting 
>> to
>> manage her condition independently.  We have always divided our
>> responsibilities that way.  I've made the pay checks and she's managed 
>> the
>> house, kids, and everything else.  Now we are coming to the time when I
>> need
>> to step up.
>>
>> K C suggested I share what I know about how Linda manages her sugar, and
>> also where I am in my own knowledge and skills.  Fair enough.
>>
>> Linda is insulin dependent and insulin resistant which means she needs to
>> take a lot -- something north of 60 units per day.  Most of this is 
>> Lantus
>> taken at night, the remainder Humalog taken during the day to correct.
>> She
>> tests several times a day and has gotten fairly good at detecting ups and
>> downs -- at least she can tell when it's time to test.  I don't know the
>> brand of her glucometer, but I can use it to test her sugar; of course, I
>> can't read it.  We're getting the PV -- I suspect that I'll get to
>> practice
>> using it on myself, not a problem.
>>
>> All of Linda's serious low incidents have happened at night.  As I said,
>> she
>> can head them off fine if she's awake.  I seem to know when she's going
>> low.
>> I've awakened to Linda being in a cold sweat, and got her up and righted.
>> Friday night was just a whole lot worse, maybe because I didn't wake up 
>> in
>> time to catch her while she could still help me.   Once she goes past a
>> certain point, she's completely incapable of helping me at all, but
>> fortunately, she can swallow liquids.  I've always had emergency juice
>> stashed away, but for some reason, it wasn't there Friday night.  I 
>> looked
>> high and low, but the best I could do was some chocolate which doesn't
>> have
>> much sugar.  I'm not sure she would have been able to drink anything 
>> under
>> these circumstances anyway.
>>
>> The paramedics had squeeze tubes of glucose concentrate, and that worked
>> great.  I've already ordered a supply from our mail order pharmacy.  I
>> think
>> getting comfortable using the meter, and having a proven, certain
>> emergency
>> sugar source, will go a long ways toward solving our problems.
>>
>> Poor baby, when she goes low, she's pretty obstinate.  Even when she
>> catches
>> it herself, it's like she goes into slow motion.  Like I said, I just 
>> have
>> to step up and take responsibility while respecting her wishes to be
>> independent.  Not sure I'm making the best of sense here, and not sure I
>> really provided the right information.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Robert
>>
>> "A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm,
>> thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to
>> others. It is a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with
>> bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity."
>> --Jimmy Carter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul & Paula 
>> Jordan
>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:27 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>> Hi Robert:  I am a diabetic with a totally blind spouse, and I'm not sure
>> what her reactions would be in an emergency.  I'm not sure how she'd feel
>> about testing me, nor am I sure how I would feel either.  I know that 
>> when
>> I
>> test, I can tell how much blood I've got, but I'm not sure what she'd do.
>> I have mentioned your situation, and I think she'll probably share some 
>> of
>> her ideas later.
>> Hang in, and I hope and trust we can get you some help soon.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Shelton
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:04 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
>>
>> Hi.  My wife (sighted) is a diabetic and I'm a total.  Linda was 
>> diagnosed
>> almost 10 years ago, and is heavily insulin-dependent.  We've been
>> muddling
>> through - maybe half a dozen incidents of heavy insulin shock over ten
>> years, and I've always been able to handle things, but last night was
>> different. I wound up calling 911.  What I'm looking for is how a blind
>> person can best be prepared to handle emergencies with a diabetic 
>> partner.
>> I looked at the list archives but didn't see a search function.  I've got
>> emergency sugar stashed away, but I need to make sure I can read her 
>> blood
>> sugar without depending on Linda - surely there are solutions for this.
>> If
>> anyone has suggestions, I'd be more than grateful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> --Robert
>>
>> "...and you fill your cup with whatever bitter brew you're drinking, and
>> you
>> spend your life diggig' coal from the bottom of your grave."
>>
>> --Patty Loveless "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive"
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:30:05 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
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> Gary,
> this is Dar,
> Are you a diabetic as well.
> Didn't you come to the Montana state convention one time?
> Just was wondering if you are the same Gary?
> Thanks,
>
> -- 
> --Dar
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:37:25 -0600
> From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
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> I am not a diabetic but I did come to the Montana State Convention. It was

> a
> lot of fun except for the banquet speech which I had heard before.
>
> Gary
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
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> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member Introduction
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>> Gary,
>> this is Dar,
>> Are you a diabetic as well.
>> Didn't you come to the Montana state convention one time?
>> Just was wondering if you are the same Gary?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:22:43 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question here
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> Ah yes Montana is minus six today.
> what a thrill smile.
> My question is this, just standing in the door way having the dog going
> out to do his chores, my sugars will drop.
> so far they are in the nineties.
> If this happens in a doorway, what on earth would happen walking in the 
> snow.
> How would you keep this from going down to far.
> This is one of my fears getting out in the winter months.
> Folks don't get it.
> They just say walk fast.
> Well walking fast in snow for me is out of the question.
> Just can't happen, I also don't want to take a hard fall if I can keep
> from it on the ice.
> Thanks,
>
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